Forensic experts baffled about FBI claims about lost texts


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They were lying: Forensic experts consider absurd the FBI claim that the texts between two anti-Trump FBI investigators were lost.

A former FBI special agent, who worked extensively on counterterrorism related cases, stated they were “dumbfounded” by the FBI’s original excuse that the text messages were irretrievable.

“Even though the servers ‘lost’ the text messages of Strzok they would still be on his actual device, even if he deleted them,” stated the former FBI special agent, who asked to speak on background due to the sensitivity of the case. “That’s how we catch bad guys, we forensically search their phones. Nothing disappears off the device, nothing… unless they take a hammer to it or microwave it. The question is, the FBI knows this, so why did the bureau say they couldn’t retrieve them – why did they mislead Congress.”

Makes sense to me. They are lying. They are trying to cover-up. And what they are lying about and trying to cover up is down-right treasonous.

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  • Cotour

    This memo has got them all rattled pretty good because it lays out from the president to the FBI to the DOJ and everyone else on down their plot to destroy the country as formed.

    HRC to Donna Brazile: “If he gets elected we will all hang from nooses” (I paraphrase of course her actual verbage was much more salty).

    Hillary really sent that message and she knew exactly what she was talking about, thats how big its going to be. Because she failed they are all going down, it was quite the gamble.

  • Keith

    Every revelation about the FBI and DOJ provides greater clarity to the reasons Trump won the 2016 election. People may not know exactly what has been done, but I believe people can sense when things aren’t right and they need to take some action to correct the wrongs of our government.

  • Chris

    Now consider what will occur IFF the mid-term election flips the Congress (House and Senate) and they impeach and convict to remove President Trump.

    This work must move quickly.

  • Steve Earle

    Chris said:
    “…Now consider what will occur IFF the mid-term election flips the Congress (House and Senate) and they impeach and convict to remove President Trump….”

    This is my greatest fear. The Republicans seem to either not know what they are doing, or they are deliberately pacing it so slowly that by the time it all comes out it will be too late….

    Do they really think they can wait to appt a Special Prosecutor? By the time it happens and there are actual hearings at this rate the Fall elections will be upon us…..

  • Phill O

    Ed Ashurst documents the Gibson guitar problem. Seems they donated to the republicans. They had the authorities come in (in SWAT gear) and charge them with illegally importing some woods. It cost them $300,000.00 to settle. Their competitors used the same woods and were not charged. Their competitors donated to the democrats.

    This was nothing but mob tactics, straight from Al Capone’s playbook; which Obama learned so well..

    See “Alligators in the Moat” a very informative read. You will never look at the border issue in the same light ever again!

  • Kyle

    Here is a good tip, whenever a dem screams about an accusation of another, it is most likely something that they themselves have already committed, to a greater extent, quietly. I.e. disruption of justice, collusion, election manipulation, Incompetence, racism, sexual misconduct, etc

  • Cotour

    The rank and file of the FBI are in revolt and are actively rejecting these lies that their leadership is putting out. Not a good recommendation for the leadership of the FBI, deadly for them in fact.

  • ken anthony

    We need to keep track of every liar that tries to cover their friends and make sure they don’t slip past the net. America hangs in the balance.

  • Jim Jakoubek

    Keith –

    Your comment:

    “Every revelation about the FBI and DOJ provides greater clarity to the reasons Trump won the 2016 election. People may not know exactly what has been done, but I believe people can sense when things aren’t right and they need to take some action to correct the wrongs of our government.”

    Spot on sir!

  • Phill O

    ken anthony “We need to keep track of every liar that tries to cover their friends and make sure they don’t slip past the net. America hangs in the balance.”

    James Comey comes straight to mind after he openly admitted he leaked.

  • Cotour

    (To the powers that be on BTB, I could find no appropriate place to post this story about crypto currencies and banking. This is a growing issue and it might be worthwhile to investigate it.)

    I heard this guy, Jared Rice, being interviewed last night on Coast To Coast, he is attempting to create a “BANK” that trades / legitimizes Bitcoin / crypto currency’s. (His crypto “bank”, called Arise Bank has been erased from the internet as of today, 1/28/18 and there is nothing that I can find on the raid on the web)

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/arisebank-announces-first-ever-acquisition-of-traditional-banks-by-a-crypto-platform-expects-ico-to-exceed-1b-due-to-popular-demand-300584461.html

    One problem, the SEC does not want the term “BANK” being used nor I must assume it does not want the toe hold of a traditional bank being associated with and bridging the gap with Bitcoin / crypto currency and usurping the FED and Americas ability to control the dollar as being the reserve currency of the world. This concept is a threat to the centralized bank model and attempts to create an un-regulatable decentralized model. (The FED don’t like that)

    So just yesterday morning he awoke in his bed with a gun barrel in his face, put there by a team of FBI agents representing the SEC, and all of his computer equipment was seized. (PIGS! :)

    This is the problem with crypto currencies, they really have no intrinsic value other than their code / block chain security system, which in itself is very interesting. If someone attempts to further legitimize the crypto currency concept by bridging the gape between the virtual world and the real world it becomes a threat to the powers that be.

    And make no mistake the powers that be when they perceive a threat like a bank that bridges the gap and legitimizes crypto and their power becomes short circuited will become ruthless. Real world tangible currency must be controlled and legitimized by governments with real economy’s and real intrinsic tangible value, like property, land, oil, gold reserves and most importantly heavily armed armies with the weaponry and ability to enforce that “value” of their own “Fiat” currency’s. (Fiat currency is the real world precursor to crypto currency)

    There seems a place for crypto currency but until the government figures out a way to control it it will remain virtual and a dream to usurp the governments ability to control the world.

  • wayne

    While I am very Libertarian when it comes to “money,” and I have no dog in the hunt with made-up electronic ‘money,’ (and I am not a gold bug) all these ‘crypto-currencies’ are the ultimate in synthetic fiat money. It’s beyond smoke-n-mirror’s.

    People that would never touch future’s options on synthetic collateralized debt-obligations, are going whole hog on made-up ‘money.’ It’s pure gambling following the greater-fool theory.
    –As long as you can’t pay your taxes with anything except Federal Reserve Notes, it’s all just dust in the wind.

    “Gold is Money, everything else is credit.” attributed to J.P. Morgan
    [He did testify to Congress in 1912, “Money is gold, nothing else.”]

  • Cotour

    A tool at work.

    https://youtu.be/HipoIuyfmZc

    Corey Booker has never had an original thought in his adult life, especially upon becoming a U.S. Senator. His biggest asset? His concerned furrowed brow, thats it (And of course his blackness, he’s “clean” as Joe Biden would say).

    Here he praises Mueller and his so called pristine reputation, but he fails to mention that Mueller oversaw the FBI’s investigation into the Hillary Clinton / Uranium One fraud and the surrendering of our nuclear resources to the RUSSIANS. Along with McCabe, Comey Strzock, Page, Ohr and the many, many other FBI characters that are also involved in the current RUSSIAN / Trump investigation. He apparently never thought it important that the Congress should know about that and he never thought it appropriate that he recuse himself because of his blatant conflicts of interests?

    (The Mueller investigation has been long ago compromised and is now IMO fraudulent)

    Interestingly Mueller became the Director of the FBI on……………………..Sept 4th, 2001. Now why would that date and his overseeing of the FBI and what it might have “investigated” be relevant?

    When this Frankenstein monster that is being wrestled with within our government finally breaks free and begins to rage through the countryside and the corruption that has been perpetrated on the American people and the world the actual truth that could be revealed will be much, much too much for most to accept and deal with. Totally beyond most peoples abilities. And there in lies the beauty and brilliance.

    Let that all that settle in for a few moments.

  • Cotour

    Follow up:

    Evidence of FBI actively lying to cover their misdeeds.

    https://youtu.be/9ezT8rGh4JE

    The villagers better be getting their torches ready.

  • Mitch S.

    Don’t underestimate Booker’s intellect.
    He’s done quite nicely for himself and is positioning to be a presidential contender.
    He’s just another example of pols doing things based on self interest.
    (That’s why I laugh when I hear the term “SOM” applied to them. “SOM” implies they consider moral action but chose not to.
    For these pols moral considerations don’t enter their mind unless they are pondering how to manipulate the moral leanings of the populace.)
    Just a few months ago Booker and Lindsay Graham were making personal appearances in the Newark courtroom where Bob Menendez was on trial. They know Menendez is corrupt and sleazy – flying with his Medicare/Medicaid swindling buddy to the Dominican Republic to have sex with young, possibly underage, prostitutes. The mistrial doesn’t disprove any of that. But they made the political calculations and prostituted themselves as usual.

  • Cotour

    “For these pols moral considerations don’t enter their mind unless they are pondering how to manipulate the moral leanings of the populace.”

    Exactly, its all just a calculation, its the nature of the empowered beast. Im happy to see you are thinking in terms of S.O.M., where morality is optional depending on existential need. The need could be subjective (personal) or objective (in the interests of the controlling body or entity).

    Booker, like I have previously stated, is probably a nice enough guy but he is just there because he fits a certain profile and timing. The timing was right for him when Lautenberg croaked and it serves “the club”, both NJ’s and the national DNC club that he is there. Booker is not a leader of import so would be a perfect Democrat presidential candidate, but alas he would never be able to close the deal.

    An affable black, Joe Biden, nothing more nothing less. Could be a vice president card board cut out but not the front man. Could only become president due to death or impeachment.

  • Mitch S

    Booker grew up in an upper-middle class neighborhood (97% white and asian), I believe his father was an IBM exec. He went to Stanford and got a Rhodes Scholarship.
    He became mayor of Newark – a city run with such incompetence and corruption that a minimum effort would result in improvement.
    Booker put in minimum effort (word was while he officially had a residence in the city he hardly ever slept there except when by remarkable coincidence there was a fire next door so he could run in and save a lady) but got the minimum improvement he needed.
    Booker put himself in the right place to grab Lautenberg’s seat (it was obvious for years that Lautenberg was too ill to remain in the Senate – I think the rule is a Senator can only serve 3 years after death!)
    Booker being an, um, “confirmed bachelor” may help him in the party and hair doesn’t seem to be the big issue it was in the Clinton years (Booker is clean shaven from chin to crown).
    So don’t count him out.

    Nowadays the Dem congresspeople are trying to figure out how to handle the Trump impeachment movement. Smart establishment types like Booker and Schumer fear jumping on board can bite them later but they can’t ignore their base.

  • Cotour

    Yes, I remember him from his do nothing but talk days as the mayor of Newark, just a face and a smile and those furrowed brows when he was “serious” OOOOO. Purely a white mans non threatening black man, pure Ivy League, I am certain he belonged to a fine fraternity.

    When you say “Don’t count him out”, I don’t, he will he lined up among the many 2020 Democrat presidential hopefuls, but IMO in the end he is unable to pull it off, does not have “IT” he is too transparent as having no real agenda, a professional place holder, a tablo of a politician, an empty suit, just like in Newark. (Maybe if he reads this it will set him off and focus him………….nahhh)

    Here, watch for yourself, a total tool no strength absolutely no gravitas, ZERO: https://youtu.be/D7VVVsGRvuc
    couldn’t inspire a puppy to wag its tail.

    Just a drone who does as he is told.

  • Edward

    wayne quoted: “‘Gold is Money, everything else is credit.’ attributed to J.P. Morgan
    [He did testify to Congress in 1912, ‘Money is gold, nothing else.’]

    After reading a book called “The Ascent of Money,” I started thinking of money as IOUs. The author, Niall Ferguson, noted an early form of trading in which, for instance, a farmer would give a clay IOU to a blacksmith for five bushels of barley at harvest time in exchange for work done now. If the IOU did not have his name on it, then the blacksmith could exchange the IOU for something else, and the someone else could collect the grain at harvest time.

    Modern money seems to work that way, where I can spend a dollar, and it means that I owe that someone a dollar’s worth of goods or services, but the holder of the dollar can collect those goods or services from anyone else, too.

    Of course, this is off the topic of discovered text messages sent and hidden by corrupt government officials.

  • Cotour

    Back to the subject at hand:

    https://youtu.be/T75mWI5j460

    Mueller has redacted some of Strzock emails? I have stated that IMO the Mueller investigation is fraudulent. I suspect that on probably Tuesday before, during or right after the SOTU speech something significant will be let loose. Or maybe during the week, but it IS coming.

  • Keith

    I don’t know one person in New Jersey who has ever mentioned that Corey Booker is bright, original, or any sort of leader. Most people I know think that, at best, he’s a lazy opportunist. There is no way he runs for President, that’s way too much work for him. VP, maybe. He fits the demographic molds and is capable of doing what’s he’s told to do.

    I could be wrong, I guess, but I’ve lived in NJ for nearly 40 years now, and I don’t see it.

  • wayne

    Referencing “hidden communications,” if we want to get to the bottom of everything that happened the last 8 years—we need all the GMail they sent to each other.

    Keith- interesting take.

    Cotour– can we get you to ID these clips?

    Edward– I’d love a discussion of “money,” but as you note– wrong thread. Federal Reserve notes could be thought of as “IOU’s” but with one key difference– the government continually increases the number of these Notes in circulation, which devalues each note and causes inflation.

  • Cotour

    Keith: I have also watched Booker for many years from across the river and have understood him to be as you describe. I had dinner last night with someone who grew up in NJ and asked him his opinion and he, who is a very polite person (unlike me), said pretty much what you said. Booker IMO is just a political tool and has no leadership characteristics, ZERO. You can see it in his eyes.

    Wayne: Fiat money, specifically in the case of the United States of America, which finds itself in a position related to fiat money and our economy, military power and being theee reserve currency of most of the world is truly unique in history. As long as those three characteristics, economy, military power and being the reserve currency of the world remain in force America can control its interest rates and operate in pretty much any way that it pleases, well outside of the previously known fiat currency parameters. (As long as that remains the status quo)

    Maybe the powers that be will recognize the importance of understanding this Money V Fiat V Crypto issue and begin a thread related to it.

    I will try to identify any vids I post.

  • wayne

    Cotour-
    Ref: “As long as those three characteristics, economy, military power and being the reserve currency of the world remain in force America can control its interest rates and operate in pretty much any way that it pleases, well outside of the previously known fiat currency parameters.”
    -That is just not, how it plays out in the real world.

  • Cotour

    THAT is EXACTLY how it is playing out right now and into the future until those parameters change.

  • Cotour

    FBI Deputy Director McCabe who is elbow deep in the FBI subverting the FBI’s charge to be objective and using it to his subjective political purposes against a duly elected president, out today.

    https://youtu.be/9TnwO_xcSmQ

    Critical mass approaches as the “Memo” is slated to be released.

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