Muslims celebrate the Orlando mass murder on Twitter

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The religion of peace: Though the translated tweets at this link cannot be assumed to represent the entire Islamic community, they give a very good flavor, which is largely happy that a Islamic terrorist killed or injured more than a hundred innocent people this past weekend.

Note that all three of the world’s religions consider homosexuality to be a sin. Judaism demands good behavior but leaves the ultimate judgement to God. Christianity demands good behavior but also demands forgiveness. Neither calls for the wholesale murder of sinners. Islam, however, is different. The religion of peace is quite comfortable, and in fact apparently supports, the idea of mass murder by terrorists.

But according to Barack Obama and the left, it is we who have to change.


  • Cotour

    The clash of cultures continues, we all know that at some point this politically driven forced mixing must cease or in time it will overcome us and destroy us and we will become them. That is just the plain and natural course of the struggle. Did it just become apparent due to the empowering of Obama and he seems to be accelerating it?

    Until the Koran is somehow redefined as not being just a “religious” book our own Constitution will be used as a weapon against us. No other “religion” on the planet threatens anyone, specifically America in such a way.

    This weapon must somehow be denied our enemy’s and all the while respecting the rights of individuals. Why don’t you monkey with that puzzle for a while Edward?

  • Edward

    I’m not quite sure what the puzzle is that needs monkeying. The US already does not allow certain religious practices that violate US laws. A good example is animal/human sacrifice. Another example is killing or enslaving infidels.

    As far as I can tell, you are complaining about a freedom of speech. That Islam freely recruits new followers, as do all other religions.

    The concept of Caliphate has been well known for centuries, not just since Obama took office, and I was taught of the liberation of Spain from the Moors’s Caliphate, which allowed that country to finance Columbus’s voyage, which discovered the New World.

    Or are you complaining about the already illegal act of inciting followers to violence? That is already illegal. No monkeying necessary.

    Or are you saying that Islam is less religion and more governance system, or regime, as expressed as Sharia Law? Since in Islam, each — religion and law — seems to depend upon the other, this makes sense. It appears that the religion of Islam is unstable without the law that enforces it. It also appears that the religion has declared war on every infidel-run country on the planet, as though the religion were its own government.

  • Cotour

    I don’t know why you need to complicate what is simple.

    Our Western culture, specifically our Constitution, guarantees freedom of religion and freedom and of speech and freedom of assembly. The Koran is represented as ONLY being a religious book proscribing its doctrine. My contention is that it is indeed a text of religious doctrine but it is also a text that at its core proscribes the conquest of all other religions and cultures and is essentially a military document.

    This is a fundamentally irreconcilable fact. These two cultures must not mix to the degree that they are being forced to mix by the powers that be at this moment in time.

    Its fairly simple, now solve equation without violating the Constitution. GO.

  • Edward

    Military document. I missed that point completely.

    However, once again, I missed why the constitution would be violated.

  • Cotour

    The Constitution is “apparently” not violated, that’s the problem.

    The Koran’s design creates a paradox related to the Constitution. We are mandated to call and treat as equal a military document that is masquerading as a religious document that mandates the overthrow and domination of all other belief systems as a matter of our law.

    Houston, we have a problem.

  • Edward


    Are we facing a military document (the US Constitution allows for the defense of the country, no violation of the Constitution to defend against military attack), or are we facing pandering to and to mollycoddling Islam? No need to violate the Constitution when not pandering and mollycoddling. The Constitution requires neither.

    Although gun-free zones are Constitutional, it is also Constitutional to have gun-friendly zones, such as Pamela Geller’s Constitutionally allowed Mohamed Cartoon Contest. Free speech allows for us to point out the advantage of the gun-friendly zone over the folly of the gun-free zone.

    How is freedom of religion, speech, and assembly to be used against us in ways that are not already prohibited? The religion calls for slavery and murder, both of which are prohibited. Speaking out against the US, the government, and the people are not prohibited, because we all get to argue our own values, countering the stone-age values of certain religions. Gathering together for peaceful reasons is allowed, but assembling for violence is already prohibited by the Constitution.

    It seems to me that you are complaining that illegal acts are the ones that are going to be used against us, but they already are being used against us, as when nightclubs, Christmas parties, and army bases are shot up or when planes are flown into our buildings. All of these are violations of our Constitution; none are allowed by it.

    Can you give me some examples of how you believe the Constitution will be or is being used against us? Apparently I am lacking in imagination.

  • Cotour

    No imagination necessary. (Or are you being coy? You do not strike me as the coy type)

    Time is their most useful weapon, the clock is ticking.

  • Edward

    We do not treat religions as equal to the Constitution or the law. As I previously noted, we have laws that prohibit certain actions that are required by some religions. To sacrifice a goat is illegal, to enslave or murder an infidel are also illegal. The Constitution is superior to religions, in the US, but the Constitution requires that religions be free to practice their beliefs and values where they do not violate the law.

    The Constitution requires that we protect ourselves from a hostile military, whether or not they are patient as Fabians, and if Islam is that military, then there you are.

    What *is* a problem is that the current tyrannical regime in the US fails to protect We the People according to the Constitution. They violate the Constitution with impunity. Your problem, Cotour, is not that the Islamists can use the Constitution against us; your problem is that the current regime will not use the Constitution to protect us.

  • Cotour

    And when the majority decides to change or eliminate the Constitution? I think you are just playing devils advocate now. Time is their best friend, they have all of it on their side, and it makes it much worse when our own leadership has plain to see sympathy for it.

    The Qur’an and the Sharia becomes the “law of the land. ”
    All non-Islamic human rights cancelled.
    Freedom of speech and the press eradicated.
    All Religions other than Islam are forbidden and destroyed.
    Enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim population.
    Destruction of all evidence of non-Muslim culture, groups and symbols in country.

  • Edward

    Cotour wrote: “And when the majority decides to change or eliminate the Constitution?”

    Well, that is a puzzle that cannot be monkeyed with.

  • Cotour

    In the end, the Constitution is just a piece of paper, written by a bunch of white guys. (and we all know how bad that must be)

    When you use the absolute word “cannot” then I understand that your vision does not extend as far as it needs to in this instance.

    Islam is designed for the long game, I mean the really long game.

  • wayne

    Good stuff!

  • Cotour

    Their civil rights become everyone else’s problem. Government can not do enough to protect their rights to the exclusion of everyone else’s rights.*Version*=1&*entries*=0

    See Something, Say Nothing, a book that makes the connection between Obama and his actions and what is plain to me are the first stages of surrender.

  • PeterF

    How soon before the area’s Muslim Community submits a permit request to begin work on a badly needed mosque next door to the Pulse nightclub?

  • PeterF

    Islam is spread by the sword. This fact was not lost on Thomas Jefferson. He knew that the United States would eventually have to face the threat. Reportedly, he directed the first book published by the US government was the Qur’an, so that we could know our enemy. He was up to the challenge. He sent the marines to Tripoli and ended the stranglehold that the Barbary pirates held on the entrance to the Mediterranean.
    Our current president? As a child in Indonesia, he was sent to a Madrasa. (a Muslim “educational” institution according to Wikipedia). I can imagine what the other kids did to the skinny American kid with the big ears. Don’t be fooled into thinking that a Madrasa is like a Catholic school. A Madrasa teaches the Qur’an and only that which supports teaching of the Qur’an.
    The evidence suggests that according to “radical” Islamists, anything, Rape, Murder, Theft, Slavery, ANYTHING is allowed as long as it promotes the spread of Islam. (Besides, Mohammed did all that stuff so Allah must be okay with it.)
    Islam is like the Borg: Assimilate or die…

  • LocalFluff

    This is not even a topic of different views, but all about degrees of stupidity. Everyone wants security, freedom and wealth, right? Well, islam does not. The reason homosexuals are targeted by religions is because sexual reproduction of animals was necessary in the earliest historic societies. If you had two cows then your rime was running out if you didn’t get a steer to give you a sustainable return. That’s why many languages have grammar dominated by the two genders. In Italian the car is a woman and the flower is a man, it is all confused evolution from when the first words invented refered to animals or our own families. It succeeded because it was necessary for survival.

    But now we have technologies and social systems which have anitquitated all of that. The bible’s and the koran’s warnings that homosexuality is no good was motivated by the fact that you won’t make any children that way, it was basic sexual education, and who would support you at old age then? That is no longer applicable. Being a muslim is not having another opinion, it is being wrong. Simply wrong. We need to teach them that they are wrong. They are no longer nomads with camels in the desert, society has evolved, even their bacward spcieties, and they need to evolve their culture too. They need our help to understand that their religion is plain wrong, a huge mistake which they must abandon if they want to survive in our time.

  • wayne

    Well said!

  • wayne

    As always, very colorful commentary!

    I would however quibble with your thought, “We need to teach them that they are wrong.”
    That ship sailed a long time ago.

    “It’s the only way to be sure…

  • Edward

    Cotour wrote: “In the end, the Constitution is just a piece of paper,”

    Same for the Koran. The difference, for this reply, is how well it is followed. America’s leadership has abandoned our Constitution in favor of tyranny, but much of the Islamic leadership continues to follow their Koran, which preaches tyranny.

    US leadership punishes people who say something when they see something, despite reassurances that whistleblowers will be rewarded, not punished.

    Why is it important to name the enemy, Mr. Obama? Because if you can’t name him, you can’t fight him. If you can’t name him, you are likely to name someone else as the enemy.

    What kind of leader focuses attention away from the enemy and onto the defenders?

    What kind of leader blames the defenders for the enemy’s actions?

    What kind of leader disarms the defenders, as though they are the enemy, and allows the attackers free rein and plenty of defenseless attack zones (gun-free zones)? Our government is creating more soft targets and reducing the defenses of our country in the middle of someone being at war with us. As the 9/11 Commission said, “They were at war with us, but we were not at war with them.” Under this president, we are at war with our defenders and our own militia. Mr. Obama is able and willing to name them.

    The lesson of Pamela Geller’s event are clear to all. When the defenders are allowed to defend, the attack has less chance to succeed.

    The lesson of many gun-free zones (even military bases have been turned into defense-free zones) is clear to all. When the defenders are disarmed, the attack succeeds, perhaps even better than the enemy expected.

    The lesson of the Orlando night club attack is clear. The attacker had such free rein, and so little resistance that he was able to call — in the middle of his rampage(!) — a newspaper, the FBI, *and* 911.

    The defense-free zone (such as schools, nightclubs, military bases, and France) is the stupidest idea to come along since Mohamed’s evil musings.

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