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	Comments on: Draft version of Senate NASA budget released	</title>
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		By: Kelly Starks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly Starks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062;== the language in the bill seeks to force NASA to use the most expensive parts of Shuttle and Ares I. 
&#062; NASA will never be able to afford to do much if it is never allowed to stop being a launcher designer/operator ==

Well it could learn to not be a inept launch designer/operator, it used to be, but the big thing in the way of that is also in the way of them doing much.  They are now a civil service organization driven by political winds.  Hence the LAUGHABLY overpriced Constellation, in contrast to L/M and McDonnell Douglas offers for a $3B (in &#039;95 $&#039;s) RLV capable of lifting a couple times a week, and in the MacDac case capable of Earth surface to lunar surface (with on orbit refueling) and return to Earth surface while fully reusable.  Constellation would do far less, cost 20 times as much to develop, and really offer nothing of great value to industry or space development.

Commercial crew appeared unlikely to lower costs to NASA compared to shuttle, due to the planed associated overhead and (pork?) programs.  So no Revolution there

You want a better NASA, get a better politics (especially civil service rules) to drive it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;== the language in the bill seeks to force NASA to use the most expensive parts of Shuttle and Ares I.<br />
&gt; NASA will never be able to afford to do much if it is never allowed to stop being a launcher designer/operator ==</p>
<p>Well it could learn to not be a inept launch designer/operator, it used to be, but the big thing in the way of that is also in the way of them doing much.  They are now a civil service organization driven by political winds.  Hence the LAUGHABLY overpriced Constellation, in contrast to L/M and McDonnell Douglas offers for a $3B (in &#8217;95 $&#8217;s) RLV capable of lifting a couple times a week, and in the MacDac case capable of Earth surface to lunar surface (with on orbit refueling) and return to Earth surface while fully reusable.  Constellation would do far less, cost 20 times as much to develop, and really offer nothing of great value to industry or space development.</p>
<p>Commercial crew appeared unlikely to lower costs to NASA compared to shuttle, due to the planed associated overhead and (pork?) programs.  So no Revolution there</p>
<p>You want a better NASA, get a better politics (especially civil service rules) to drive it.</p>
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		By: Coastal Ron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This legislation is focused on short-term jobs, not saving money and doing exciting things in space.  Have you seen how much they are hacking out of the robotic precursor missions and next generation technology research?

The funny thing is that Senator Nelson has said that he didn&#039;t want Congress designing a launcher, but the language in the bill seeks to force NASA to use the most expensive parts of Shuttle and Ares I.  NASA will never be able to afford to do much if it is never allowed to stop being a launcher designer/operator - they don&#039;t do it very well, and it sucks the majority of their budget out of real exploration initiatives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This legislation is focused on short-term jobs, not saving money and doing exciting things in space.  Have you seen how much they are hacking out of the robotic precursor missions and next generation technology research?</p>
<p>The funny thing is that Senator Nelson has said that he didn&#8217;t want Congress designing a launcher, but the language in the bill seeks to force NASA to use the most expensive parts of Shuttle and Ares I.  NASA will never be able to afford to do much if it is never allowed to stop being a launcher designer/operator &#8211; they don&#8217;t do it very well, and it sucks the majority of their budget out of real exploration initiatives.</p>
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		By: Kelly Starks		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/draft-version-of-senate-nasa-budget-released/#comment-70</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly Starks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If past it kicks the can down the road and doesn&#039;t allow massive dismantling of NASA and US space infrastructure and skilled teams.  It would naturally be better if they got refocused more no doing something productive – but sadly, coming out of Washington from this congress, this is a lot better then we really should have expected..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If past it kicks the can down the road and doesn&#8217;t allow massive dismantling of NASA and US space infrastructure and skilled teams.  It would naturally be better if they got refocused more no doing something productive – but sadly, coming out of Washington from this congress, this is a lot better then we really should have expected..</p>
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