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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/frank-borman-an-old-fashioned-american-of-the-highest-order-passes-away-at-95/#comment-1433750&quot;&gt;WMc&lt;/a&gt;.

WMc: The paperback has been out of print for years. The hardback as well.

I have been thinking about issuing new editions, but have been unsure of the demand. The response here might help me decide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/frank-borman-an-old-fashioned-american-of-the-highest-order-passes-away-at-95/#comment-1433750">WMc</a>.</p>
<p>WMc: The paperback has been out of print for years. The hardback as well.</p>
<p>I have been thinking about issuing new editions, but have been unsure of the demand. The response here might help me decide.</p>
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		By: WMc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WMc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember being 8 years old and watching the black and white tv 
and hearing Borman read from Genesis.  

Anybody know how I can get a paperback copy of Mr. Zimmerman&#039;s book
about Apollo 8?  Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember being 8 years old and watching the black and white tv<br />
and hearing Borman read from Genesis.  </p>
<p>Anybody know how I can get a paperback copy of Mr. Zimmerman&#8217;s book<br />
about Apollo 8?  Thanks.</p>
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		By: fr in sc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The story of Apollo 8 is one more people should know about, especially as it relates to the tragedy of Apollo 1 and the triumph of 8&#039;s successor missions, including 13; it was a Doolittle Raid in peacetime. It seems incomprehensible to think that the three of them could read the first twelve verses of Genesis to the world without permission from NASA and layers and layers of &quot;sanitizers&quot; passing judgment beforehand; I remember hearing it on TV as a kid of nine and it left everyone misty-eyed and quiet, a most wonderful Christmas present to the world from three very brave men. 
RIP Colonel Borman.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story of Apollo 8 is one more people should know about, especially as it relates to the tragedy of Apollo 1 and the triumph of 8&#8217;s successor missions, including 13; it was a Doolittle Raid in peacetime. It seems incomprehensible to think that the three of them could read the first twelve verses of Genesis to the world without permission from NASA and layers and layers of &#8220;sanitizers&#8221; passing judgment beforehand; I remember hearing it on TV as a kid of nine and it left everyone misty-eyed and quiet, a most wonderful Christmas present to the world from three very brave men.<br />
RIP Colonel Borman.</p>
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		By: Trent Castanaveras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trent Castanaveras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 13:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A model American and a great man. You will be missed, Mr. Borman]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A model American and a great man. You will be missed, Mr. Borman</p>
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		By: Kevin Davis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was waiting for this, sir.

Excellent tribute to an exemplar of an America that now seems to me all but lost.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was waiting for this, sir.</p>
<p>Excellent tribute to an exemplar of an America that now seems to me all but lost.</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 07:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;But this consummate professional never flew in space again?&lt;/i&gt;

Bob&#039;s book deals with this well. 

I can only add that on everything he said publicly, Borman really did think that the Space Race was won with Apollo 8. No, he hadn&#039;t landed or kicked up regolith. But he&#039;d got to lunar orbit first. For him, the mission to beat the Soviets was accomplished. And he had given up enough of his life away from his family.

And as we now know from what we have been able to uncover of the Soviet space program at that point, Borman&#039;s sense was right. The state of the Soviet moon program was was such that they had at least a fighting (if super risky) chance of getting a circumlunar flight by decade&#039;s end, but they were years away from even being able to attempt a landing. That is not to take away anything from what Neil and Buzz did - they had to land, and come back, to fulfill Kennedy&#039;s promise.  But Apollo 8 is what really put paid to the Soviets. That is Frank Borman&#039;s achievement - and that of thousands of other brilliant and tireless NASA personnel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But this consummate professional never flew in space again?</i></p>
<p>Bob&#8217;s book deals with this well. </p>
<p>I can only add that on everything he said publicly, Borman really did think that the Space Race was won with Apollo 8. No, he hadn&#8217;t landed or kicked up regolith. But he&#8217;d got to lunar orbit first. For him, the mission to beat the Soviets was accomplished. And he had given up enough of his life away from his family.</p>
<p>And as we now know from what we have been able to uncover of the Soviet space program at that point, Borman&#8217;s sense was right. The state of the Soviet moon program was was such that they had at least a fighting (if super risky) chance of getting a circumlunar flight by decade&#8217;s end, but they were years away from even being able to attempt a landing. That is not to take away anything from what Neil and Buzz did &#8211; they had to land, and come back, to fulfill Kennedy&#8217;s promise.  But Apollo 8 is what really put paid to the Soviets. That is Frank Borman&#8217;s achievement &#8211; and that of thousands of other brilliant and tireless NASA personnel.</p>
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		By: John P Eastman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John P Eastman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 02:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d love to hear more about your experiences.  This story was Borman, but also about you... and your incounters and knowledge.  Thank you.  Very interesting.  More, please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to hear more about your experiences.  This story was Borman, but also about you&#8230; and your incounters and knowledge.  Thank you.  Very interesting.  More, please.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/frank-borman-an-old-fashioned-american-of-the-highest-order-passes-away-at-95/#comment-1433469&quot;&gt;Ray Van Dune&lt;/a&gt;.

Ray Van Dune: He retired from space travel after Apollo 8. I detail all the reasons in Genesis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/frank-borman-an-old-fashioned-american-of-the-highest-order-passes-away-at-95/#comment-1433469">Ray Van Dune</a>.</p>
<p>Ray Van Dune: He retired from space travel after Apollo 8. I detail all the reasons in Genesis.</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 01:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But this consummate professional never flew in space again?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But this consummate professional never flew in space again?</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 01:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ice water for blood--that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ice water for blood&#8211;that one.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 00:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Colonel Frank Borman&quot;
NASA film
https://youtu.be/oxxGaT1HFZo
(7:25)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Colonel Frank Borman&#8221;<br />
NASA film<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/oxxGaT1HFZo" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/oxxGaT1HFZo</a><br />
(7:25)</p>
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		By: sippin_bourbon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sippin_bourbon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 23:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent memoriam for an excellent man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent memoriam for an excellent man.</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 23:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this personal story about Colonel Borman, Robert.

A lot of people say that Apollo 13 was NASA&#039;s finest moment.  Perhaps I am not in a position to say they are wrong. But Apollo 8 is surely at least NASA&#039;s &lt;i&gt;boldest&lt;/i&gt; moment. The risks they took on that mission, and the skill and sheer energy NASA&#039;s people put into overcoming those risks . . . I simply cannot imagine the NASA of today even attempting it. Frank, Jim, and Bill understood all this, and they didn&#039;t hesitate. They are heroes, and their names deserve to live.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this personal story about Colonel Borman, Robert.</p>
<p>A lot of people say that Apollo 13 was NASA&#8217;s finest moment.  Perhaps I am not in a position to say they are wrong. But Apollo 8 is surely at least NASA&#8217;s <i>boldest</i> moment. The risks they took on that mission, and the skill and sheer energy NASA&#8217;s people put into overcoming those risks . . . I simply cannot imagine the NASA of today even attempting it. Frank, Jim, and Bill understood all this, and they didn&#8217;t hesitate. They are heroes, and their names deserve to live.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 21:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/frank-borman-an-old-fashioned-american-of-the-highest-order-passes-away-at-95/#comment-1433439&quot;&gt;Bosco Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Bosco Bob: It was supposed to be &quot;prevaricated.&quot; I have fixed. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/frank-borman-an-old-fashioned-american-of-the-highest-order-passes-away-at-95/#comment-1433439">Bosco Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Bosco Bob: It was supposed to be &#8220;prevaricated.&#8221; I have fixed. Thank you.</p>
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		By: Phil Berardelli		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Berardelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 21:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent piece, Bob. Thanks for that. Diogenes would have been proud -- of both of you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece, Bob. Thanks for that. Diogenes would have been proud &#8212; of both of you.</p>
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		By: Bosco Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bosco Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 20:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[prevabricated?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prevabricated?</p>
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		By: Ferris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ferris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 20:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rest in peace, Mr. Borman.]]></description>
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