Rahm Emanuel, who has decided NOT to run again for mayor of Chicago (I wonder why?) is rewarded with a book deal after he has presided over one of the most deadliest cities in America. Where the minority population must live in fear of them being randomly shot down in the streets 50 and 60 at a time every weekend. This is how the Democrat machine apparently rewards its operatives? I guess they can not just write him a check.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-rahm-emanuel-book-deal-20180918-story.html

And I guess not being able to effect the security of his people in Chicago has its rewards when you have presided over a 15 times higher crime rate and many hundreds of shootings and murders than the rest of the state of Illinois.

“Emanuel has long touted the primacy of mayors in the 21st century, arguing increasing gridlock at other levels of government is making local officials innovate and collaborate to get things done “where the rubber hits the road.”

“Tout” this. Except his rubber never apparently met the road, blamed the public’s lack of morals for HIS failure in leadership while the public begged him for some action. Thought that the legal and monetary liability of enforcing the law was too high (Seriously). Maybe he can line up to run for president, he has all of the Liberal Democrat credentials that he needs, a whole lot of nonsensical logic, excuses and BS.

https://atlantablackstar.com/2018/08/20/rahm-emanuel-slammed-after-blaming-lack-of-morals-for-chicago-violence/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/01/27/saudi-billionaire-prince-al-waleed-freed-detention-corruption-crackdown/1071765001/

Bin Talal to be released? I will assume that if there was a hit attempt against Bin Salman he would not be seeing the light of day and probably not even the next day.

What was the cost of his buy out? Money? Money and information?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364868-conservative-watchdog-head-we-need-to-consider-shutting-down-the-fbi

Through hard evidence we can plainly see that the FBI chooses winners and loosers and some high level agents are revealed to be less than objective operatives for a political cause. Where is their line? What will they NOT do to promote their preferred version of reality? Apparently there is no limit.

S.O.M. in application, the rules are there are no rules, only the rules that your opponent is constrained by.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/us/las-vegas-shooting-2-months-questions/index.html

During the interview the man who was shot through both legs shows his injuries and we notice that the bullet passes through one leg into the other breaking the second leg.

Q: If the shooter is a significant distance from the victim and at least 350 feet or so in height and its a direct hit, how does the bullet pass in what appears to be horizontally from one leg to the other? Ricochet? One leg was raised while running?

And I can not in any of the videos see a muzzle flash from or around the 32 nd floor windows. And why two windows? Thats another puzzler, the second window does not enhance his trajectory in any way that I can see. And the second window was located in a second adjacent room who’s door had to be breached with explosives to enter and was apparently locked from the other side. How did Paddock move between both rooms?

A lot about this still does not for one second add up, but crazy does happen every day, no apparent logic or reason to be found.

I wonder of the FBI might be not as honest as they could be about this? Nah, the FBI would never do such a thing as lie or shape or omit evidence it revealed to the public in order to hide nefarious activities either by them, their associates or other operations. (SARCSM, for the sarcastically challenged) Just another “mystery”.

“On October 1, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock opened fire on a country music festival from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel, which overlooked the festival venue. Paddock’s onslaught left 58 dead and 546 injured.”

Alleged, until we all view the video that Paddock himself supposedly took of him committing the act this entire thing is all alleged. The further we get from it the more that the official story comes into question.

https://youtu.be/baxo7ggQezk

https://squawker.org/world/breaking-las-vegas-police-insider-posts-on-4chan-reveals-stephen-paddocks-motive/

This is what this Las Vegas shooting is sounding more and more like. What we can all agree on is that none of this makes any kind of sense, until you add in these proposed scenario’s and motivations. Where is / are the shooters is the next question.

https://youtu.be/m-hAqNRY-Uk

Nothing about Paddock makes sense related to this event, was he a patsy? They said that he recorded the entire event inside the room, lets see the video. Lets see his “self” administered suicide picture and him doing it on the video.

There has been no real evidence shared with the public. Why? CIA involvement? Rogue CIA / FBI? Foreign operatives? Anti 2ND amendment / Fast And Furious operation? Things happen for a reason.

It goes back at least to Marie Antoinette, who is credited as saying — but never said — “Let them eat cake.” That fake news helped to foster the French Revolution and has ruined her reputation to this day, because just like “hands up, don’t shoot,” that lie is still believed.

Fake news probably goes back much, much farther. I wouldn’t be surprised if it even predates ancient Greece, the Bible, and Noah, whose news source was reliable, fortunately.

This is the problem with those who believe in mottoes such as “by any means necessary” or “the ends justifies the means.” When the means is corrupted, as with the NAZIs in the 1930s, the movement is corrupted, as with the NAZIs.

People who live by such mottoes tend to be the intolerant, hateful ones, but feel free to convince populations that those who are actually tolerant and accepting are the hateful ones, even to the point of hypocrisy, such as the (now deleted) twitter that Robert linked to in his post, above, that the murderous members of the NRA should face a firing squad. Is that tolerant? No, it is hate filled. That is why it was deleted.

As long as people believe the lies, the lies will continue. Since they have been going on for centuries or millennia, then they are certain to continue to deceive people for millennia into the future.

Eliminating the hatred will also be difficult, as it is a powerful ally to the intolerant. When they get people to hate the wrong group(s), the power-greedy intolerant ones often get their way. Just as is happening with the intolerant, evil Only Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement; the police forces in several cities are no longer being as proactive, and now there are more crimes and murders there, just as the criminal, anti-police BLM movement wants. Who is it that the hateful BLM people want to fry like bacon?

Cotour: Using the right alias is the correct and polite thing to do. It also helps facilitate communication and searches.

Note that one regular commenter here started out by using a different alias each time he commented. I told him that he had to pick one, or I’d ban him. That decision has worked out very well for him, and others.

If you are referencing someone else, please use courtesy and use their name or alias they have picked.

There is a degree of “validity” placed upon our modern electronic communications, that is wholly underserved.
The News Industrial Complex has always been heavily partisan, and they didn’t suddenly go all “neutral-arbitrator” when they shifted to digital.

I encourage you (Or anyone else) to be as direct as is allowed here on BTB when responding to or arguing with or criticizing my comments or points of view, argue or attempt to refute what ever I post, do your best. I do not spend my time here to be stroked or placated, bring it, I will take care of my end. That being said, we can take care of these things in a civilized manner.

As to your alias………………………..? Does it really matter since its an alias, we all know who I am referencing.

In re. Fake News:

It’s far from a new phenomena, it just goes more rapidly now with the availability of an unfiltered instantaneous medium. One shudders to think what Vladmir, et. al. would have done with the internet ass a distribution medium as opposed to devices such as the Maxim Gorky.

From Yellow journalism to communist and fascist propaganda, to the modern versions such as CNN, it’s all the same. I’m not sure which is more insidious, the fake news people pay for (CNN. et. al) or the fake news driven by government propaganda. The US Government uses propaganda techniques in the form of PSAs, our government is far from pure in this . (It would be interesting to see the psychological effect of the constant PSAs for disaster preparedness, or the “PSAs” from the CDC which have been filling the airwaves lately for HPV vaccination.)

Cotour, while I was perhaps out of bounds in being as direct as I was, you could at least have the civility to use the alias I’m using here without twisting it.

As per Paddocks own testimony in court papers, he apparently has gambled up to $1million dollars per night, I do not think that there is much doubt that this guy was a bonafied “high” roller, although Steve Winn says that he was an average gambler. It would be interesting to see the profile of a real high roller in Winn’s opinion.

And yes, take note, this is reported by CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/us/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-deposition/index.html

An interesting thought and side bar regarding this guy Paddock, IMO he is going to drive a whole new generation of gamblers among the young people reading about his gambling exploits and the money that he generated playing video poker. Bet on it.

Garry: Its Common to me.

There are the rare times when the police are there to stop the violence before it begins, though. Pamela Geller put on an event in Texas, at which a couple of terrorists thought they would wreak havoc and kill a bunch of people, but the police happened to be on hand to stop them before they could get started on their killing spree.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/us/garland-mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/
“At this point, [U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson] said, one thing appears clear: A quick-thinking police officer ‘likely saved a number of innocent lives.’ … A traffic officer working after-hours as security for the event and armed only with a service pistol killed both men, who were wearing body armor and carrying assault rifles, Garland Police Department spokesman Joe Harn told reporters Monday. … An unarmed security officer working with the patrol officer was shot in the ankle, police said. None of the approximately 200 people attending the event was hurt.”

This is a case of the shootings ending just as they started, because someone with a gun was already at the scene, otherwise it would have been another case of the shootings continuing until someone with a gun arrived on the scene.

In Paris, Charlie Hebdo was attacked because the police officer on the scene did not have a gun to stop the bad guys. Instead, she turned into their first victim. The same could have happened in Texas, had the armed police not been present, only the unarmed security officer.

The point being, of course, that just as with Plano Texas, it is the armed good guys who discourage the bad guys from being bad. It is not guaranteed that they will not attack, but it helps, and their attack is shorter lived that without the armed good guys on the scene.

But if they are going by wound diameter it could have also been Ak variants in 7.62×39. The virtually the same diameter .308.

Supposedly there were also hunting rifles and a few pistols also. But nothing is confirmed.

The NY Times is finally good for something.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/02/us/vegas-guns.html

The echoes might be contributing to some people thinking that it was full auto.

As for those thinking that too many rounds were fired for this to be an AR15 they do make 100 round drum mags for them. Though reliability is not 100% guarantied.

It sounds like auto fire to me*, but I would defer to your judgement. (I’ve only ever seen one full auto demonstration in my life.)
* given that I’m listening to cell-phone footage uploaded to youtube & downloaded to my $5 speakers.

Do we know what weapons he actually fired?

This is due in part to him changing the pressure he is applying to the bump stock. Too much and it only fires once and too little and it fires slowly or at least slower.
Plus the amount of pressure you need to use changes as the weight of the gun changes. Which it does as the ammo is used. Lighter gun means less pressure.

In several of the videos you can hear it go from bang…bang…bang to bang.bang.bang.bangbangbang….bang..bang.

A true full auto weapon cannot change rate in mid firing or cycle.

Weapon performance also relies on a great many other factors.
Ammo, maintenance, oil used and how much, magazines, break in, plus simple operator error and inexperience.

With all his money and a clean back ground he could have just purchased a class 3 full auto weapon for about 35 thousand and made sure it was going to function on full auto. Might have taken a year to get the approval back from the ATF but he could have done it.
https://www.davidspiwak.com/guns/

“Bump-stocks,” never heard of them myself, but an ingenious application of physics without violating the law. I can pull the trigger pretty fast, so not my thing.

The LV shooter– to me, that was automatic fire. Has that been verified? What actual weapon(s) did he use?

I would say however– be careful & judicious, of wishing it easier to force a mental health evaluation onto someone. Laws vary by State, but in-general, a balance has already been struck.
Being crazy, is not against the law. Doing crazy stuff, is against the law. Random Acts of Craziness occur, and little can be done, that isn’t already done.

Not to make light of any of this—

“What’s he building in there?”
Tom Wait’s
https://youtu.be/JaLjwSpZ6Cs
3:23

On Bump stocks.
There are more than one form of this device. Some as simple as just your finger or even a piece of shoe string. The reason people buy this type of device above the others is it gives a bit more reliability and steadiness. But you can also download the companies letter from the ATF stating its legal so no overzealous local police officer confiscates your firearm.

This man was obviously insane.
Look up your local laws about being declared insane or incompetent and how it effects the gun laws.
We need far more mental facilities and it should be easier to have people placed into them for simple evaluation.

The police response to this was excellent. All the first responders did great.
But I was more impressed with the civilians immediate actions during and after the shooting.
From the security guard who might just have been the real reason the shooter stopped. The passing motorists and cab drivers who transported the wounded. And all the concert goers who stayed behind and helped the wounded even during the gunfire.

And lets not forget the actual victims of this tragedy.
They have my thoughts, sympathy, best wishes and prayers.

As for all the anti gun hoplophobes out there. Its sad to hear all the misinformation they are actively spreading just to spread fear of firearms and their political opponents. All we can do is to hold our ground and to keep correcting them as best we can.

By the way. Hoplophobia is just as valid a term as is Homophobia. The left just doesn’t like to have a phobia attached to their political or social views.

The fake news comes from the news media’s acceptance of “by all means necessary” to spread the hatred. Fake news is a tactic that supports the overall strategy of disinformation, and since most people remember the first thing that they hear on a topic, it becomes difficult to counteract the effects of the fake news. This makes fake news such an effective tactic.

For instance, just this morning I was talking to a lady who is still convinced, two decades later, that Bill Clinton was impeached for having sex in the White House rather than the true reason: lying under oath.

But then again, she is a liberal, so Clinton could have shot someone on Fifth Avenue and she would still support him. Trump could save that person’s life and she would still hate him.

Pivoting tangentially, although humorously…

“We’ll do it live…”
Stewie Griffin does Bill O’Reilly
https://youtu.be/To3sgDbwVvw

And I thought Carl Reiner was dead, but he is not, he is now 95 years old and still going! Not too shabby for a raging Liberal.

Question marks a plenty about this story!

Worth checking out this piece about the Russia reporting by Glen Greenwald. Yes, the lefty Greenwald from The Guardian and now The Intercept.
A lefty, but he still has some journalistic standards.

https://theintercept.com/2017/09/28/yet-another-major-russia-story-falls-apart-is-skepticism-permissible-yet/

“NBC reported that Paddock’s 2015 tax return showed $5 million in income, most of it from gambling profits.”

? (Thats another very big question mark Common)

ISIS continues to claim Paddock as an actor, that could just be a PR move, Paddock researched many similar entertainment venues as the one in which he acted, Paddock made many trips (20?) via cruises to Europe and the middle East, the information about these three new aspiring ISIS actors had similar plans to attack similar venues as Paddock, just coincidence (?) (another question mark Common).

Was Paddock just an insane nut that chose to mirror exactly and manifest ISIS type terror agenda at venues like these three other verified ISIS inspired aspirant actors wanted? What sets him apart from them? 1. He is older and more disciplined, 2. He is totally self and well funded.

What is the key to lone wolf cell like terror groups? Waiting in obscurity, acting alone, without any communications to track, executing a plan at a certain predetermined or opportune time and place. Paddock fulfills these criteria perfectly (Maybe too perfectly and that just makes him an insane nut? Another question mark Common.)

While paddock may well be just a totally insane nut who was just pissed off at the “normal” world, he certainly has made his mark much in the same way as an ISIS actor would literally die to accomplish.

Q: If Paddock planned to make a get away and he was so organized, precise and planned out, as the police suggest, why did he allow himself to remain in his spot so long as to become trapped and he had to then kill himself?

Q: Why 23 guns? 23 guns goes too far over redundancy requirements to ensure reliable fire power. May point to an obsessive / crazy personality? (Another question mark Common)

In a planned out military type operation you determine a set amount of time to execute it and then you are out. You drop everything and go. Another inconsistency caused by becoming lost in time during the event or a miscalculation?

Looks like a duck, may be a crazyassed goose, but kind of looks like a duck, at the moment.

And I would have to say that some order of drug use was a part of most all of these outrageous and murderous domestic attacks in America. Big pharma does not want any information like that to become common knowledge. When at the end of the Big Pharma prime time TV commercials on Sunday night during Americas Funniest Videos says, “May cause thoughts of a violent or suicidal behavior, see your doctor if this occurs”, is to be taken seriously.

Just some thoughts on this subject, still many questions to be answered, some will probably never be answered.

Refrence the LV shooter– most all, but not every State, maintains a real-time database of all RX’s for controlled-substances. In Michigan, I can access that database through my work account, and get a listing of all controlled-substances prescribed and filled by anyone in the State. (I’m not allowed to surf randomly in this database, I have to have a documented reason for looking anyone up or they will pull my License immediately.)