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					<description><![CDATA[Weeb Union: &quot;This is Why ISRAEL is DOOMED To LOSE This War&quot;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOS4EKbujz8]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weeb Union: &#8220;This is Why ISRAEL is DOOMED To LOSE This War&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOS4EKbujz8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOS4EKbujz8</a></p>
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		By: Edward_2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 00:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Israelis are Smart Cookies.]]></description>
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		By: Edward_2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 00:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A HamAss &quot;child&quot; is a jihadi with a beard and AK-47.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A HamAss &#8220;child&#8221; is a jihadi with a beard and AK-47.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AND, the enemy is within primarily invited and in many instances forced by those very same Liberal / Leftists that you are apparently aligned with.

Where do you plan on hiding after Sweden?

When do you stop and say no more?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND, the enemy is within primarily invited and in many instances forced by those very same Liberal / Leftists that you are apparently aligned with.</p>
<p>Where do you plan on hiding after Sweden?</p>
<p>When do you stop and say no more?</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lee S, are you out there?

If you are this is for you: 

Sweden Issues Very Worrying ALERT:  https://youtu.be/Umia4RgZ24Q?si=YjGMlG6P7-z8zqQI

Are you paying attention yet, Lee S?

The Liberal / Leftist now radical Globalist, &quot;In the future you will own nothing....and be happy&quot; which you are aligned with insist that reasonable now relatively free people, some confused and philosophically unmoored, self-suicide. I say no, what say you? 

Where exactly is your line in the sand? The enemy is within!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee S, are you out there?</p>
<p>If you are this is for you: </p>
<p>Sweden Issues Very Worrying ALERT:  <a href="https://youtu.be/Umia4RgZ24Q?si=YjGMlG6P7-z8zqQI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/Umia4RgZ24Q?si=YjGMlG6P7-z8zqQI</a></p>
<p>Are you paying attention yet, Lee S?</p>
<p>The Liberal / Leftist now radical Globalist, &#8220;In the future you will own nothing&#8230;.and be happy&#8221; which you are aligned with insist that reasonable now relatively free people, some confused and philosophically unmoored, self-suicide. I say no, what say you? </p>
<p>Where exactly is your line in the sand? The enemy is within!</p>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 00:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They are saying that Israel does not have the forces to police Gaza after they take it.

Well that is only true if they leave any Palestinians in Gaza.
they have the full ability to turn it all into a huge pile of rubble and move everyone out to either Lebanon and Hezbollah rule or into Egypt.
Any place that would take them in risks them taking over the nation. Or at least causing a lot of trouble.

I hope Israel takes the land and moves ALL the people out.
This will send a loud message to all of it neighbors. 

Terrorist play time is over as far as i am concerned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are saying that Israel does not have the forces to police Gaza after they take it.</p>
<p>Well that is only true if they leave any Palestinians in Gaza.<br />
they have the full ability to turn it all into a huge pile of rubble and move everyone out to either Lebanon and Hezbollah rule or into Egypt.<br />
Any place that would take them in risks them taking over the nation. Or at least causing a lot of trouble.</p>
<p>I hope Israel takes the land and moves ALL the people out.<br />
This will send a loud message to all of it neighbors. </p>
<p>Terrorist play time is over as far as i am concerned.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 23:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All of the pro Hamas PR in this unfolding event is almost moot, essentially only a distraction. The Leftist media is doing their best to deny Israel their absolute result by attempting to curtail their operation through public opinion and demonstrations in the U.S. 

The massive pro Hamas demonstrations in the U.S. are a part of the plan. (What are they thinking? It is a part of the strategy. Any student that has come to America and is demonstrating in support of the destruction of Israel should immediately be deported back to their rat hole of origin. 

Free speech? They do not have that level of free speech given their situation.

The Israeli leadership will not at this moment in time be hampered by much of anything.

Israel finds itself strategically where it needs to be, however they got there, and now has the INTERNATIONAL LEGAL AUTHORITY to take care of business on a grand scale and they will kill any and all Hamas soldiers that they can find. And they will systematically destroy or make inoperable Hamas infrastructure.

Israel is taking care of existential business and there is not much that will be deterring them.

And what is interesting? Meat puppet Joe appears to be defying his radical Leftist handlers. Very interesting.

IMO all potentials exist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the pro Hamas PR in this unfolding event is almost moot, essentially only a distraction. The Leftist media is doing their best to deny Israel their absolute result by attempting to curtail their operation through public opinion and demonstrations in the U.S. </p>
<p>The massive pro Hamas demonstrations in the U.S. are a part of the plan. (What are they thinking? It is a part of the strategy. Any student that has come to America and is demonstrating in support of the destruction of Israel should immediately be deported back to their rat hole of origin. </p>
<p>Free speech? They do not have that level of free speech given their situation.</p>
<p>The Israeli leadership will not at this moment in time be hampered by much of anything.</p>
<p>Israel finds itself strategically where it needs to be, however they got there, and now has the INTERNATIONAL LEGAL AUTHORITY to take care of business on a grand scale and they will kill any and all Hamas soldiers that they can find. And they will systematically destroy or make inoperable Hamas infrastructure.</p>
<p>Israel is taking care of existential business and there is not much that will be deterring them.</p>
<p>And what is interesting? Meat puppet Joe appears to be defying his radical Leftist handlers. Very interesting.</p>
<p>IMO all potentials exist.</p>
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		By: Tom T.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 23:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The question I never see anyone ask: If 10,000 Palestinians have been killed in the last month, where are the bodies?]]></description>
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		By: Thomas Bridgeland		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 21:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re the nature of the enemy. In every video or picture I have seen, there are hordes of boys in the early to mid teens present. The adults who actually fight are surrounded by them, and only a few years older. I suspect the actual fighters are very bored young men with not much better to do. Fighting is at least exciting. When it becomes more scary than fun, many will melt away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the nature of the enemy. In every video or picture I have seen, there are hordes of boys in the early to mid teens present. The adults who actually fight are surrounded by them, and only a few years older. I suspect the actual fighters are very bored young men with not much better to do. Fighting is at least exciting. When it becomes more scary than fun, many will melt away.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/intellectual-dishonesty-caused-the-experts-to-misread-the-gaza-military-situation/#comment-1433429&quot;&gt;Herbert Jacobi&lt;/a&gt;.

Herbert Jacobi: Heh. Your comment made me laugh, but its truth is essential. I do not think people have assessed Hamas&#039;s strength accurately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/intellectual-dishonesty-caused-the-experts-to-misread-the-gaza-military-situation/#comment-1433429">Herbert Jacobi</a>.</p>
<p>Herbert Jacobi: Heh. Your comment made me laugh, but its truth is essential. I do not think people have assessed Hamas&#8217;s strength accurately.</p>
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		By: Herbert Jacobi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The greatest mistake is to underestimate an enemy.  

The second greatest mistake is to overestimate an enemy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The greatest mistake is to underestimate an enemy.  </p>
<p>The second greatest mistake is to overestimate an enemy.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/intellectual-dishonesty-caused-the-experts-to-misread-the-gaza-military-situation/#comment-1433424&quot;&gt;GWB&lt;/a&gt;.

GWB: I think you overestimate the real support for Hamas. They are bullies who brutally use force to keep the citizens of Gaza under their thumb. This includes making them hostages and shields. Under those circumstances, I would expect many to quickly surrender with eagerness to Israeli forces, on the hope that it will bring back the prosperity that existed before Hamas took over.

Note that the Arab population in Israel has come out strongly in favor of Israel and its actions in Gaza. This reflects I think some down-to-earth realities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/intellectual-dishonesty-caused-the-experts-to-misread-the-gaza-military-situation/#comment-1433424">GWB</a>.</p>
<p>GWB: I think you overestimate the real support for Hamas. They are bullies who brutally use force to keep the citizens of Gaza under their thumb. This includes making them hostages and shields. Under those circumstances, I would expect many to quickly surrender with eagerness to Israeli forces, on the hope that it will bring back the prosperity that existed before Hamas took over.</p>
<p>Note that the Arab population in Israel has come out strongly in favor of Israel and its actions in Gaza. This reflects I think some down-to-earth realities.</p>
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		By: GWB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Zimmerman:
I do think there is one similarity between the Japanese during WW2 and the Palestinians: everyone will fight.

The Israelis cannot take for granted &quot;Oh, that&#039;s a civilian&quot; or &quot;Oh, that&#039;s a child.&quot; Our invasion of the Japanese home islands would have entailed digging out and killing every last Japanese drawing breath. Or some of the civilians might have done as they did on Saipan and suicided. It was a culture that glorified death - just as the Palestinian culture is. (This is above and beyond the cult of martyrdom in Islam, IMO.) Of course, this is part of the argument against the &quot;ceasefire&quot; ideas - this is the closest we&#039;ve seen to total war in several decades.

I do think the Israeli military is aware of this and has planned for it. But the progressives - whether at West Point or in Israel - are blinded to it. Until, of course, it&#039;s right in their face, slapping them silly.

You do have a very good analysis on this, IMO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Zimmerman:<br />
I do think there is one similarity between the Japanese during WW2 and the Palestinians: everyone will fight.</p>
<p>The Israelis cannot take for granted &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s a civilian&#8221; or &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s a child.&#8221; Our invasion of the Japanese home islands would have entailed digging out and killing every last Japanese drawing breath. Or some of the civilians might have done as they did on Saipan and suicided. It was a culture that glorified death &#8211; just as the Palestinian culture is. (This is above and beyond the cult of martyrdom in Islam, IMO.) Of course, this is part of the argument against the &#8220;ceasefire&#8221; ideas &#8211; this is the closest we&#8217;ve seen to total war in several decades.</p>
<p>I do think the Israeli military is aware of this and has planned for it. But the progressives &#8211; whether at West Point or in Israel &#8211; are blinded to it. Until, of course, it&#8217;s right in their face, slapping them silly.</p>
<p>You do have a very good analysis on this, IMO.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 15:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/intellectual-dishonesty-caused-the-experts-to-misread-the-gaza-military-situation/#comment-1433392&quot;&gt;Col Beausabre&lt;/a&gt;.

Col Beausabre: Every point you make is correct, but every single one ignores the nature of the foe, the Japanese (not much different than the Germans). Urban warfare with this kind of enemy is exactly as you say, and carries great difficulties.

Hamas is not the Japanese. You might consider reading a book called &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38819269-armies-of-sand&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Armies of Sand&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/a&gt; It details the endless failures of Arab armies, and digs down to find the cause. Their culture makes it impossible for them to harness a good military action, because everything is done by a top-down command structure. Without careful planning their soldiers are lost and cannot think for themselves.

I should have been more clear about this in my essay. In every case it appeared to me that the experts were not taking into account the nature of the enemy, which for more than 150 years has shown itself to be a weak opponent when faced with a western military given full freedom to do whatever it needs to do to win.

Note too that engagements in Gaza since 2005 all were hampered by the new restrictions the left has imposed on western militaries, designed to castrate their abilities to win. This time Israel removed those restrictions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/intellectual-dishonesty-caused-the-experts-to-misread-the-gaza-military-situation/#comment-1433392">Col Beausabre</a>.</p>
<p>Col Beausabre: Every point you make is correct, but every single one ignores the nature of the foe, the Japanese (not much different than the Germans). Urban warfare with this kind of enemy is exactly as you say, and carries great difficulties.</p>
<p>Hamas is not the Japanese. You might consider reading a book called <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38819269-armies-of-sand" rel="nofollow ugc"><em>Armies of Sand</em>.</a> It details the endless failures of Arab armies, and digs down to find the cause. Their culture makes it impossible for them to harness a good military action, because everything is done by a top-down command structure. Without careful planning their soldiers are lost and cannot think for themselves.</p>
<p>I should have been more clear about this in my essay. In every case it appeared to me that the experts were not taking into account the nature of the enemy, which for more than 150 years has shown itself to be a weak opponent when faced with a western military given full freedom to do whatever it needs to do to win.</p>
<p>Note too that engagements in Gaza since 2005 all were hampered by the new restrictions the left has imposed on western militaries, designed to castrate their abilities to win. This time Israel removed those restrictions.</p>
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		By: GWB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;these news organizations and the experts they relied on have taken sides&lt;/em&gt;
Well, they have. But it&#039;s the side of Progressivism. Since they are Progressives, all of that narrative you describe is their lens for viewing the world. And that means that even if Hamas lies, what Hamas tells them is &quot;truthy&quot; - it sounds good because it fits the narrative. They&#039;re sure that even if it isn&#039;t 10,000 deaths, it&#039;s got to be a LOT, so that number works for now.

It&#039;s the same reason they simply report the economic numbers the White House gives them when it&#039;s occupied by a Democrat - even though it&#039;s been shown every quarter for almost 3 years now that those numbers will be heavily revised to the administration&#039;s detriment within 3-6 months. Sure, they&#039;ll get revised, but those numbers are &quot;truthy&quot; because they support the narrative.

It&#039;s the same reason you can&#039;t believe a lot of what comes out the Ukraine war. Here the media struggles, because &quot;Putin is an outsized threat to all of civilization!&quot; is one part of their worldview, while &quot;Poor oppressed Ukraine is winning&quot; is another part. (Because, like the assumptions about how hard the &quot;urban combat&quot; would be, the oppressed underdog has near-superpowers.)

BTW, this belief system is also why they contract for stringers in Gaza. &quot;Well, they&#039;re journalists, and journalists would never out and out lie. Right?&quot; They didn&#039;t so much hire Hamas propagandists as they simply refused to see the conflict of interest because, Journalists!

The Right and the Wrong for Progressives is so twisted from reality and human nature, it&#039;s amazing they can even tie their own shoes, much less make predictions about warfare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>these news organizations and the experts they relied on have taken sides</em><br />
Well, they have. But it&#8217;s the side of Progressivism. Since they are Progressives, all of that narrative you describe is their lens for viewing the world. And that means that even if Hamas lies, what Hamas tells them is &#8220;truthy&#8221; &#8211; it sounds good because it fits the narrative. They&#8217;re sure that even if it isn&#8217;t 10,000 deaths, it&#8217;s got to be a LOT, so that number works for now.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same reason they simply report the economic numbers the White House gives them when it&#8217;s occupied by a Democrat &#8211; even though it&#8217;s been shown every quarter for almost 3 years now that those numbers will be heavily revised to the administration&#8217;s detriment within 3-6 months. Sure, they&#8217;ll get revised, but those numbers are &#8220;truthy&#8221; because they support the narrative.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same reason you can&#8217;t believe a lot of what comes out the Ukraine war. Here the media struggles, because &#8220;Putin is an outsized threat to all of civilization!&#8221; is one part of their worldview, while &#8220;Poor oppressed Ukraine is winning&#8221; is another part. (Because, like the assumptions about how hard the &#8220;urban combat&#8221; would be, the oppressed underdog has near-superpowers.)</p>
<p>BTW, this belief system is also why they contract for stringers in Gaza. &#8220;Well, they&#8217;re journalists, and journalists would never out and out lie. Right?&#8221; They didn&#8217;t so much hire Hamas propagandists as they simply refused to see the conflict of interest because, Journalists!</p>
<p>The Right and the Wrong for Progressives is so twisted from reality and human nature, it&#8217;s amazing they can even tie their own shoes, much less make predictions about warfare.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The NYT wants Wants the Jews to kill more Gaza civilians because they know the Palestinians are the oppressed ones. Fighting oppression justifies everything else-lies, murders, rapes, babies into ovens.  The end ( of oppression) justifies any means.

A little spoken truth is that they are oppressed … by Hamas. The oppressors they chose in their one election in 2006.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NYT wants Wants the Jews to kill more Gaza civilians because they know the Palestinians are the oppressed ones. Fighting oppression justifies everything else-lies, murders, rapes, babies into ovens.  The end ( of oppression) justifies any means.</p>
<p>A little spoken truth is that they are oppressed … by Hamas. The oppressors they chose in their one election in 2006.</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 06:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok, old soldier comment. The closest US equivalents to reducing a fortified zone like Gaza were 

Bloody Nose Ridge -The reduction of the Japanese pocket around Umurbrogol mountain has been called the most difficult fight that the U.S. military encountered in the entire war. The 1st Marine Division was mauled and remained out of action until the invasion of Okinawa began on 1 April 1945. In total, the 1st Marine Division suffered over 6,500 casualties during its month on Peleliu, over one third of the entire division. The 81st Infantry Division also suffered heavy losses with 3,300 casualties during its tenure on the island.

Postwar statisticians calculated that it took U.S. forces over 1,500 rounds of ammunition to kill each Japanese defender and that the Americans expended 13.32 million rounds of .30-calibre, 1.52 million rounds of .45-calibre, 693,657 rounds of .50-calibre bullets, 118,262 hand grenades, and 150,000 mortar rounds - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Peleliu

Iwo Jima - The Japanese Army positions on the island were heavily fortified, with a dense network of bunkers, hidden artillery positions, and 18 km (11 mi) of tunnels. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_JimaShuri Castle Line

Intramuros - &quot;Griswold and Beightler were not willing to attempt the assault with infantry alone. Not expressly enjoined from employing artillery, they now planned a massive artillery preparation that would last from 17 to 23 February and would include indirect fire at ranges up to 8,000 yards as well as direct, point-blank fire from ranges as short as 250 yards. They would employ all available corps and division artillery, from 240mm howitzers down. (...) Just how civilian lives could be saved by this type of preparation, as opposed to aerial bombardment, is unknown. The net result would be the same: Intramuros would be practically razed.&quot;[11] &quot;That the artillery had almost razed the ancient Walled City could not be helped. To the XIV Corps and the 37th Division at this state of the battle for Manila, American lives were understandably far more valuable than historic landmarks. The destruction stemmed from the American decision to save lives in a battle against Japanese troops who had decided to sacrifice their lives as dearly as possible.&quot;

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manila_(1945)#References

Shuri Castle Line - The Japanese defenses, centered on Shuri Castle, held off the massive American assault from 1 April through the month of May 1945. Beginning on 25 May, and as the final part of the Okinawa campaign, the American battleship Mississippi shelled it for three days and by 27 May it was ablaze. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okinawa

So predictions of a long and difficult campaign with heavy casualties were not out of line as they were based on experience.

On a personal note, I was a tanker and we were taught that the last place you want to send an armored units to fight is urban areas. It gives up their advantage in mobility, canalizes them into killing zones, renders them terribly vulnerable to tank killer teams - even the rubble provides excellent positions with covered and concealment - a lesson the US learned in the Civil War, where the Union Navy reduced Fort Sumter to rubble but only enhanced the Confederates ability to repulse a Union landing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, old soldier comment. The closest US equivalents to reducing a fortified zone like Gaza were </p>
<p>Bloody Nose Ridge -The reduction of the Japanese pocket around Umurbrogol mountain has been called the most difficult fight that the U.S. military encountered in the entire war. The 1st Marine Division was mauled and remained out of action until the invasion of Okinawa began on 1 April 1945. In total, the 1st Marine Division suffered over 6,500 casualties during its month on Peleliu, over one third of the entire division. The 81st Infantry Division also suffered heavy losses with 3,300 casualties during its tenure on the island.</p>
<p>Postwar statisticians calculated that it took U.S. forces over 1,500 rounds of ammunition to kill each Japanese defender and that the Americans expended 13.32 million rounds of .30-calibre, 1.52 million rounds of .45-calibre, 693,657 rounds of .50-calibre bullets, 118,262 hand grenades, and 150,000 mortar rounds &#8211; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Peleliu" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Peleliu</a></p>
<p>Iwo Jima &#8211; The Japanese Army positions on the island were heavily fortified, with a dense network of bunkers, hidden artillery positions, and 18 km (11 mi) of tunnels. &#8211; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_JimaShuri" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_JimaShuri</a> Castle Line</p>
<p>Intramuros &#8211; &#8220;Griswold and Beightler were not willing to attempt the assault with infantry alone. Not expressly enjoined from employing artillery, they now planned a massive artillery preparation that would last from 17 to 23 February and would include indirect fire at ranges up to 8,000 yards as well as direct, point-blank fire from ranges as short as 250 yards. They would employ all available corps and division artillery, from 240mm howitzers down. (&#8230;) Just how civilian lives could be saved by this type of preparation, as opposed to aerial bombardment, is unknown. The net result would be the same: Intramuros would be practically razed.&#8221;[11] &#8220;That the artillery had almost razed the ancient Walled City could not be helped. To the XIV Corps and the 37th Division at this state of the battle for Manila, American lives were understandably far more valuable than historic landmarks. The destruction stemmed from the American decision to save lives in a battle against Japanese troops who had decided to sacrifice their lives as dearly as possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manila_(1945)#References" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manila_(1945)#References</a></p>
<p>Shuri Castle Line &#8211; The Japanese defenses, centered on Shuri Castle, held off the massive American assault from 1 April through the month of May 1945. Beginning on 25 May, and as the final part of the Okinawa campaign, the American battleship Mississippi shelled it for three days and by 27 May it was ablaze. &#8211; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okinawa" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okinawa</a></p>
<p>So predictions of a long and difficult campaign with heavy casualties were not out of line as they were based on experience.</p>
<p>On a personal note, I was a tanker and we were taught that the last place you want to send an armored units to fight is urban areas. It gives up their advantage in mobility, canalizes them into killing zones, renders them terribly vulnerable to tank killer teams &#8211; even the rubble provides excellent positions with covered and concealment &#8211; a lesson the US learned in the Civil War, where the Union Navy reduced Fort Sumter to rubble but only enhanced the Confederates ability to repulse a Union landing.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 03:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember seeing a Buddhist figure there...fat lot of good that did.

Islam made sure India went from Ghandi to the Bomb.

During the height of the Cold War, insurgents we&#039;re rather well supplied.

--But now, Russia is an importer of arms...and this rather more speedy operation likely a result.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember seeing a Buddhist figure there&#8230;fat lot of good that did.</p>
<p>Islam made sure India went from Ghandi to the Bomb.</p>
<p>During the height of the Cold War, insurgents we&#8217;re rather well supplied.</p>
<p>&#8211;But now, Russia is an importer of arms&#8230;and this rather more speedy operation likely a result.</p>
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		By: Andi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 01:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IIRC, that rocket that hit the hospital parking lot was from PIJ rather than Hamas. 

This hit a bit closer to home yesterday, when I found out that one of my daughter&#039;s friends (whom she had met on a Birthright Israel trip last year) had attended the music festival and was killed in the attack.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, that rocket that hit the hospital parking lot was from PIJ rather than Hamas. </p>
<p>This hit a bit closer to home yesterday, when I found out that one of my daughter&#8217;s friends (whom she had met on a Birthright Israel trip last year) had attended the music festival and was killed in the attack.</p>
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