https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/09/covid-19-vaccines-protect-against-severe-illness-during-delta
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2582

These covid VACCINES are not therapeutics and cannot be used as such or considered such since they must be employed BEFORE infection [and were not considered such in the above articles, contrary to your inane assertion], and do not have to be 100% preventative be an effective “vaccine”.

Your comments are inane, as usual. You will not admit the proper definition of either vaccine or therapeutic…what a foolish response, again as usual.

The Wuhan flu vaccines do not provide immunity and are not prepared as defined. Indeed, your two links — right there in their titles — describe these faux vaccines as though they are therapeutics, not vaccines. Your choice of description, not mine.

Your ignorance on this topic and your lack of reading comprehension are epic.

“A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.”

These covid VACCINES are not therapeutics and cannot be used as such or considered such since they must be employed before infection, even Edward should be able to figure this out(but maybe not), and do not have to be 100% preventative be an effective “vaccine”. A covid vaccine (see definition above) that reduces death and hospitalization by 80 or 90% in still an effective vaccine. If you were a high risk person and would rather have gotten very sick(even deathly sick) and gone to the hospital and relied on therapeutics to save your life from the original or delta covid variant, that was your opinion.

Edward likes to pretend that these vaccines HAVE not been effective and certainly useful for high risk people. He rightly notes that therapeutics are getting better and the new variants are getting much less dangerous so vaccines are becoming pointless for all but a few. But this is irrelevant to his original inane statement ie “In reality, we learned that the vaccines are ineffective.”
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/09/covid-19-vaccines-protect-against-severe-illness-during-delta
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2582

Look it up yourself on Wiki: Number of soccer players who die on the pitch a year. One died of a fractured skull, all the rest? Heart related deaths.

The soccer death stats in the one year, 2021?

Up approx. 300% to about 21 for the one year. Correlation?

What is the common denominator? The soccer ball? Grass? Sunshine?

Senator Johnson sent an immediate letter to preserve documents in the matter to DOD.

Attorney Renz named three of the whistleblowers — LTC (Dr.) Thresa Long, Dr. Peter Chambers, and Dr. Samuel Sigloff (sp?).

Apparently the data found in August showed a 20x or higher in some cases increase in severe reactions to the Covid shots. Later, the data had been adjusted to show only 2x for myocarditis specifically.

Miscarriages were up 300% over the 5 year average.

Cancers were up 300% over the 5 year average.

Neurological injuries showed a 1000% increase.

Attorney Renz declared our soldiers are being experimented on, injured, and in some cases killed.

Renz said on 9/28/21, Project Sales, a DOD initiative, provided data to the Useless CDC which showed “71% of new cases were fully vaxed, 60% hospitalizations fully vaxed”.

Information? Disinformation? You decide. Looks like information to me.

Why has the several already approved drugs that real-world front-line doctors have established as being effective in dealing with Covid NOT been approved or allowed and in fact denied and actively withheld from use?

As far as the powers that be are concerned you are ONLY allowed to take the still experimental mRNA “Vaccine”. No mention of supplements or other modes of effectively improving your health and improving your results should you become infected. A clear surrendering of their medical responsibilities to political agenda, the almighty dollar and manipulation in order to establish a new authority and identification standard around the world.

In time this will all come out into the light and the real facts I am certain will outrage most rational humans.

True enough as far as I can detect. Those who have taken it and do acquire the infection do seem to have an easier time of it., but there remains a question.

Q: What might be the long-term potentially negative health effects of the mRNA “Vaccine” in the coming years for the general population that has taken it? Unknown and unknowable.

And that is why the most at risk during this pandemic event might have benefitted from this *NEW* technology, but to use it as a blanket mass therapy throughout the country and the world and into the arms of the least at risk?

That to me seems unreasonable and a bit too arrogant and confident where there should be measured caution.

Edward tries to ignores these these links and widely known results:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/09/covid-19-vaccines-protect-against-severe-illness-during-delta
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2582

The “vaccines” HAVE BEEN extremely effective at reducing death and severe illness from covid variant infection. Edwards statement above is simply inane. For people who considerED themselves at risk the vaccines WERE probably a very good idea. Weather they will continue to be, I have not commented on. But it should be a personal non-mandated decision.
I will repeat this for Edward,
But it should be a personal non-mandated decision.

My brother sent me this;

Holy crap
The media just turned on biden!
NBC’s Chuck Todd: Biden ‘no longer seen as competent and effective’
https://flip.it/y0Vjfi

Thanks Wayne, I will keep that in mind.

Defend USA, enlightening information that genders no confidence or enthusiasm for what the military is doing with Weaponized diseases.
You could probably tell us a thing or two about the marriage between the military and the CDC in operation warp speed where the military became part of our health system…
A year ago I read the emergency authorization which said this pandemic was paid for through 2024. At that time the military/ presidency has the option of continuing the emergency or not.

The military wanted to build a level five bio containment facility at Dugway proving Ground where they destroyed the nerve agents from World War II. Utah legislature passed a restriction of no level five… So the military built a level 4.99… The same facility that accidentally sent live smallpox to universities studying disease. Through the mail. Dangerous toys.

Here’s an update on my personal situation.
My employment called to see how I was doing and asked if I was returning to work next cycle. I told them yes, that I was nearly over my (imaginary) cough and runny nose. I asked them if the situation at work had peaked and is getting better? She replied that she was recently hired last week as part of a team because it proved impossible to call all 500 employees who needed to be contacted.
That must be close to half of the available workforce.
The “Good news” is, because of false positives on PCR tests, I was told not to test again for 90 days… Not until April. (So much for Biden’s once a week mandate) like Australia and Great Britain, they’ve given up offensive measures and just riding this flu season out.

Visited with my nurse daughter who informed us that they’re shutting down one floor of the maternity ward to make room for the influx of critically ill people. Some with Covid.
Winter is slow for births, this year unusually so. They offered once again to cross train her into the serious care hospital section and offered her wages “times four” with “five times and a half” after 40 hours.
They gave her a $10 an hour raise last year just to keep her from taking a better offer from another hospital.
Warning…
Don’t go to the hospital unless you got really good insurance… there’s more to this than the public knows.

Some of my coworkers, whom I’ve known a long time, have cancer or the resurgence of cancer that they’ve beaten in the past. What do they have in common? They took the companies $500 bonus for getting vaccinated.

Max: What a horrible story. Truly horrible, especially because all of it stemmed out of the irrational fear that has gripped too many people for the past two years and allowed evil power-hungry politicians to manipulate them into doing things that were against their better interest.

Are there any good journalist left? Not if they’re smart. They have retreated to somewhere safe, out of the way of the mayhem to come.
The good ones that stood on principle have been ridiculed and fired, paving the way for the gestapo to control every aspect of the media. (It’s been noticed in recent articles that every country in the world have the same talking points)

Dr. Malone’s speech today in front of the Lincoln Memorial is worth listening to.
https://defeatthemandatesdc.com/

When I return to work after New Year’s, I rolled down my window to have the temperature gun placed to my forehead (as is the custom for over a year now) on entry to company property.
I noticed the normal security guard was back on duty, and asked him if he was going to be the one responsible for daily checking for “proof of negative PCR test”, a new mandate the company was rolling out. (Which disappeared after the supreme court ruling)
He had no idea, and didn’t care because he was never going to get another shot! I asked him why, what’s up? He told me last week his girlfriend, who had to get a booster for her work, tried to convince him to be “up to date” like her. He refused because the first shot made him so sick.
She got her booster, and an extra strength Tylenol for the pain that was about to come. They went to bed early because she didn’t feel well.
He tried to push her out of bed in the morning, when she would not get up to turn off her alarm to go to work, just to find out she died in the night.
That’s where he was… taking her body to her family for burial with no optopsy. No foul play suspected, death listed as natural caused.

What do you say after being told that? I have no words.

Maybe they will have Biden declare Martial law?

No further need for any kind of elections anymore, too risky.

This is exactly IMO what the Democrat party machine is fashioning both through their Leftist corporate media machine allies and in the minds of the gullible general public. Legally tag Trump as an insurrectionist and disqualify him. Or attempt to disqualify him.

The Democrats believe that anything the Republicans do is in the furtherance of the destruction of Democracy, and whatever they do as being righteous and how things must be.

Political warfare of the first order, X’s 10.

You thought last year was interesting? Hold on 2022 is going to be a never-before-seen in America America.

“In its ongoing attempt to investigate and gather information about private U.S. citizens, the Congressional 1/6 Committee is claiming virtually absolute powers that not even the FBI or other law enforcement agencies enjoy. Indeed, lawyers for the committee have been explicitly arguing that nothing proscribes or limits their authority to obtain data regarding whichever citizens they target and, even more radically, that the checks imposed on the FBI (such as the requirement to obtain judicial authorization for secret subpoenas) do not apply to the committee.

As we have previously reported and as civil liberties groups have warned, there are serious constitutional doubts about the existence of the committee itself.”…

So the Dems (with a couple of RINOs) have created a star chamber with unlimited power to attack their political enemies.

From: Covid origins, to Facui’s incompetence, constant contradictions and double-dealing double speak, to the inherent safety issues with a rushed *NEW* mRNA vax technology, to lock downs, to mandates and the jr. Nazi tendencies of the many governments around the world.

The entire thing was revealed through everyone’s information gathering activities and the application of rational thought for the most part. Who found those health professionals who were to be trusted, competent and knew what was what as best as could be determined? Not 100 percent but correct for the most part.

Don’t believe me? Just look back over the last 2 years posts on BTB concerning Covid and the many offences to freedom and Democracy.

And the Mainstream Corporate Media propaganda and political agenda manipulation machine?

Like the Democrat party machine, the Mainstream Media machine has been revealed to many for exactly what they are, a direct threat to the country and peace in the world.

And as Martha says, “Thats a good thing”.

We can make some conclusions about the governmental reaction to the Wuhan flu, because many more lives were lost than would have been expected even after the deaths attributed to Wuhan flu are factored, many livelihoods were lost in 2020, 2021, and now this year, freedoms and liberties were lost and still have not been regained. Society has been changed, and it is hard to say how it will ever recover. This whole thing has been a huge cluster Brandon comprised of a series of other cluster Brandons.

The models that government followed in March 2020 said that we would lose only 60,000 people if we locked down for only two or three weeks and that the Wuhan flu would be over by August, but government got cocky and kept both the Great Oppression and the disease going for nearly two years — a year and a half longer than modeled — and we are approaching the loss of the two million excess people that the models said we would have lost had we done nothing at all, including not washing our hands.

The government policies resulted in so much worse than the models predicted if we had only washed our hands and suspended travel from hot spots.

Government policies have backfired in a big way, and government does not care. Government pretends to parent us, but parents care far more about their children than our government cares about us. Instead of recommending therapeutics, government mandates that we get dangerous and ineffective experimental shots as though they were proved save and effective. No wonder it is all a huge cluster Brandon.

m d mill tries to tell us that the vaccines make the delta varietal’s symptoms milder, but delta is going the way of the dodo. If the faux vaccine only reduces the severity of the disease and does not protect society from the disease, then there is absolutely no reason to mandate it for anyone. A mandate senselessly reduces liberty and risks harm and death to those susceptible to the side effects.

In reality, we learned that the vaccines are ineffective. They don’t prevent infection, and they don’t prevent contagion. They don’t vac, and they don’t cine. We don’t protect ourselves, and we don’t protect others. Instead, people are mandated to get the needle despite the futility of it all.

Heard on the internet:
“Why do the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to to use the protection that didn’t protect the protected in the first place?” — Unknown
https://rumble.com/vsi253-the-psychology-of-anti-anti-vaxxers-why-the-rage-against-those-who-dont-get.html (quoted from 14:10 to 14:30)

It’s all just part of the huge cluster Brandon.

And so logic and experience would indicate that this is exactly what the Left is planning.

This is what makes them sooo dangerous right now, they are desperate and they understand that if there is a somewhat normal election in 2022 that they will without doubt lose their political power. And they are not going to give that up because of some to them irrelevant election.

What will they resort to? Disqualifying the election, they started that already, and violence. And don’t forget their number one go to “racism”. That is how the Democrat party defines “Democracy”. Democracy: Do what we tell you must be done.

And in the Political Realm, party affiliation aside, it is always Strategy and never Morality.

Cotour, I’m sure you are a nice person but I thought you are from the NYC area. You should know “morality” has no more meaning in the halls of D.C than it does in the halls of Goldman Sachs or the NY Times.
It’s all tactics and strategy.

Just read through The Atlantic’s latest left strategic planning paper titled “Jan 6th Was Practice”.
The Atlantic seems to be a place where the latest left strategies are floated. Remember the Q anon “threat”?
So the new plan seems to be to convince people that the Trumpers have a nefarious (and brilliant) plan to subvert the next election by allowing states to control their own elections. And if they don’t get their way they are grooming a militia (seemingly made up of grumpy white retirees) to overturn the election by force.

Sure it sounds comical (the article goes on about the violence of the Jan 6th crowd: They were armed with flagpoles, some even had knives! No mention of the months of truly violent BLM/Antifa riots. Or ballots pulled out from under tables after pole watchers were sent away…)
But just as Covid fear stoked their constituency, a drumbeat of threats to the election by Trump can be used to end the filibuster and push through the voting bills that will place control of elections in the hands of the Fed Justice Dept (nice “moral” folks like Comey, Strosk etc).
It also calls for more aggressive attacks on Republican/Right wing groups (throw those retirees in jail and they won’t be available to be Republican. pole watchers) and interestingly singles out the law firm BakerHostetler for intimidation.

See all those people wearing masks? There are a lot of them and they are the ones who can be convinced that “emergency measures” need to be taken to stop the next “Trump insurrection”

Defeat The Mandate Rally: https://rumble.com/embed/vqiwcd/?pub=4 6 min.

A little too much Strategy and not enough Morality?

Have the now clearly desperate and consistently failing because of their extreme Leftist agenda Democrat party “Wolves” gone too far? Have they gone so far that they may indeed suffer criminal consequences for their un and anti-Constitutional actions against their political opponents?

Newt Gingrich thinks they may have.

https://rumble.com/embed/vqimwp/?pub=4 2 min.

Maybe a little too much Strategy and not enough Morality for the Democrat political party players in their desperation?

We will find out soon the answer to this question.

STRATEGY OVER MORALITY IS NEITHER GOOD NOR BAD. GOOD OR BAD IS BUT A SUBJECTIVE
PEDESTRIAN REALM PERSPECTIVE. BUT IT CAN BE EVIL. jgl

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G1F8m363Uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBaIRm4610o

Yes, I’ve heard of this group.

Incidentally, I’m curious to see how long Mark Felton can keep this lucrative business model going. At some point every stone must have been turned in connection with the Third Reich.

Lady Diana Mosley interview

“A cut down version of a fascinating interview of Lady Diana Mosley who appeared on ‘Good Afternoon’ – conducted by respected journalist Mavis Nicholson. Lady Mosley describes her meeting with fascist Dictator Adolf Hitler and the time that she spent in Holloway Prison.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzkbouKG830

Why is there a program to “vaccinate” the children of the world when their Covid survival rate is 99.995%?

WHY!? (What does not make sense, does not make sense. So, then you must ask: WHY? What is the proposed benefit?)

*Child Vaccination Suspended After 10-Year-Old Girl Suffers Cardiac Arrest Hours After Receiving Pfizer Vaccine

“She took the vaccine in the morning, and at 9 o’clock at night she came to my room saying that her heart was beating very hard, when I put my hand, it was something unbelievable. She fainted on my lap,” says the police officer

*Double Vaccinated 18-Year-Old Brazilian Model Dies After Developing Blood Clots Due to ‘COVID Complications’

“Valentina was healthy and had taken both doses of the vaccine [Pfizer]. She was part of the Ford Model Brasil São Paulo agency, which confirmed her death [translated],” says news outlet Estadao.

*Investigation Has Launched After Three-Year-Old Girl Dies From Cardiac Arrest One Day After Receiving COVID-19 Vaccine in Argentina

“The 3-year-old child, Ámbar Suárez, received one dose of the Sinopharm, China’s COVID-19 vaccine. The police and justice system will investigate the cause of her death and an autopsy will be performed.” (Sinopharm vaccine is not an mRNA-based vaccine technology)

If you are an older person and you have health concerns about contracting Covid because you have the several comorbidities that would indicate a potential poor Covid result, then you might consider on taking the vaccine. Weigh the risk and make a choice. But why the children?

STRATEGY OVER MORALITY IS NEITHER GOOD NOR BAD. GOOD OR BAD IS BUT A SUBJECTIVE
PEDESTRIAN REALM PERSPECTIVE. BUT IT CAN BE EVIL.

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