America has plenty of true socialist ethos within the culture, granted it is less now than the selfish “me me me” culture infestation of post 1988, but it still exists.

I know many natives, Democrats and even hardcore Conservatives that partake in local socialist activities, in both environments from the inner city to the middle of the wilderness with no road system for hundreds of miles in any direction.

We have all been manipulated by the greedy consumerism debt pushing bankster’s and the Cold War era propaganda of their version of “socialism” sold to us as “Communism”.
Communism itself is not too unlike our consumer capitalist system, a few corrupt people at the top get everything at the expense of the majority public who are made to suffer. Both systems fail for the same reasons.
True Socialism is the hard wired factory preset for our species, it was with us before these parasitical political and bankster systems appeared, it will return when they collapse. eg.. Look at the people of Europe during WWII, the vast majority of the public helped each other in very hard times.

Most don’t realize that true socialism is also part of American culture.
eg. The event of local community “pot luck” or “potlach” dining, community house building, the act of and entire history of Thanks Giving, community gardening projects, community barn raising etc. are all very American and true socialist events.
To help out a fellow countryman in need (with no fee attached) is the Christian and patriotic thing to do, many atheists also follow that rule. (others take advantage of these good natured folk, there are predators that see it as a weakness in a potential victim).

A true society is based on socialism because, we are fundamentally a group animal species that have more strength in numbers than going solo.

(Not looking for an argument, it is just friendly input for clarity and balance on a much misunderstood subject by most people)

Politicians are just self serving snakes, they will bait you with whatever you want to hear for the “democratic” façade to continue, and most people then fall for it, hook, line and stinker.

Truth is, the Republicans and Democrats are accomplices that play rope-a-dope with the public. Keep the public stupid, divided, distracted, confused and pitch them against each other so they don’t, or can’t, unite against their self appointed tyrannical masters. It’s a very old game, many centuries old now, and it continues to work like a charm.

The “politicians” are all in bed with the enemy. Criminals have more incentive to get into office than honest folk do, x amount of criminals in power can then control who even gets into office.

The way it stands now, elections are easy to rig, “party policy” is corporate autocracy controlled by the plutocracy, most of which got their wealth from illegal activity somewhere along the line.

We all need a real Democracy with proportional representation (not the 1st past the convenient post), the democratic 2/3rd majority safety rule, and, real information for legit debates on legit issues. Government needs to be more transparent.

All we have now is, a rotten fake theatre with 2 bit lying actors who represent the sycophantic puppet masters that hide behind the curtain. lobbyists in particular need to be held to account for their corrupt manipulations.

If we don’t change it now, it could easily become an extinction event. They already tested bio weapons on us recently, what are they planning for us all next ?

Sheep fear the threat of the wolf but, ultimately, it is the Shepard they should fear the most. Shepard’s pie anybody ?

Remember this, we were all referred to as “the herd” during Covid. That is how they see us, they have little more than contempt for the public that they pretend to represent in parliament.

We are in grave danger and yet, everybody carries on as usual. I warned people during Clinton vs Trump, nobody listened, they just went along with the dog and pony show.

The people deserve the politicians they get.

I do agree that what they *are* doing is probably worse than useless; they want to be seen to be doing *something* and the fact that this is so easy to co-opt means it might not be vetoed..

Let’s see the Republicans get on that bandwagon.

Since the only way to get out of socialism is to shoot your way out, we see exactly what the Founders encountered:

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

The benefit, and hazard, of the internet, is that no one can hide from it, on either side. We now have more information, but it’s harder to do anything effective with it.

Andi: Heh. That’s how I read it, but not how my fingers typed it. Now fixed. Thank you.