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		By: Max		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TWO CMEs ARE HEADING FOR EARTH: Confirmed: Two CMEs are now heading for Earth following consecutive X-flares (X7.1 and X9.1) from active sunspot AR3842. According to NOAA and NASA models, the first will strike Earth on Oct 4th and the second (more potent) will strike on Oct. 6th. The dual impacts could spark strong G3-class geomagnetic storms with auroras at mid-latitudes, especially on Oct. 6th. 

 Nice way to end the summer, I think I’ll stay up late/get up early. If the second event is more energetic, traveling faster, it might be another “perfect storm” both occurring at the same time like happened in 2004? The brightest northern lights seen over more of the northern hemisphere then any other storm in this generation. When carbon dioxide levels went above 400 ppm for the first time and it occurred/was measured in the Arctic under the storm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TWO CMEs ARE HEADING FOR EARTH: Confirmed: Two CMEs are now heading for Earth following consecutive X-flares (X7.1 and X9.1) from active sunspot AR3842. According to NOAA and NASA models, the first will strike Earth on Oct 4th and the second (more potent) will strike on Oct. 6th. The dual impacts could spark strong G3-class geomagnetic storms with auroras at mid-latitudes, especially on Oct. 6th. </p>
<p> Nice way to end the summer, I think I’ll stay up late/get up early. If the second event is more energetic, traveling faster, it might be another “perfect storm” both occurring at the same time like happened in 2004? The brightest northern lights seen over more of the northern hemisphere then any other storm in this generation. When carbon dioxide levels went above 400 ppm for the first time and it occurred/was measured in the Arctic under the storm.</p>
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		By: BLSinSC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2024 19:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BUT, the &quot;climatistas&quot; are CERTAIN that if we give them a few BILLION$ they can tell us how that .01 DEGREE warming in the next two CENTURIES will cause us ALL to perish!  The Weather app on my phone gives a ten day &quot;forecast&quot; that can change DRASTICALLY from one HOUR to the NEXT!   I do give them credit for being somewhat accurate on what happened YESTERDAY!

I&#039;m wondering if this drop in sunspots is the cause of our temps dropping later this week?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUT, the &#8220;climatistas&#8221; are CERTAIN that if we give them a few BILLION$ they can tell us how that .01 DEGREE warming in the next two CENTURIES will cause us ALL to perish!  The Weather app on my phone gives a ten day &#8220;forecast&#8221; that can change DRASTICALLY from one HOUR to the NEXT!   I do give them credit for being somewhat accurate on what happened YESTERDAY!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if this drop in sunspots is the cause of our temps dropping later this week?</p>
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		By: Ronaldus Magnus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronaldus Magnus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2024 04:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of the Terran-based weather forecasters. I often comment about the daily and weekly weather reports. If, in my job, I used the following vocabulary and phraseology, in meetings, reports, I would not remain employed very long.

Maybe, Perhaps, Chance Of...

I lived in one area where, for several months, the daily forecast used Partly Cloudy and Partly Sunny, back and forth.

Someone very famous, maybe Socrates, perhaps Einstein, stated: The Beginning Of Wisdom Starts By Stating &quot;I Don&#039;t Know.&quot; 

We know some things. The Sun is very hot. Sometimes it is hotter. The long-term sunspot patterns will not be determined for many, many years. Right now, on Earth, we believe that there are long, long periods of much colder temperatures. Perhaps 100,000 years of cold, with warming periods of 10-15,000 years. What involvement, what types of back and forth conditions, patterns of the Sun are a part of this will be revealed. 

I would love to have a peak into the future, when the Great Cold returns. I imagine a future Comedy Channel, with one weekly show dedicated to laughing at AlGore and his minions stating &quot;The Earth Has A Fever&quot; as the viewers shiver.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the Terran-based weather forecasters. I often comment about the daily and weekly weather reports. If, in my job, I used the following vocabulary and phraseology, in meetings, reports, I would not remain employed very long.</p>
<p>Maybe, Perhaps, Chance Of&#8230;</p>
<p>I lived in one area where, for several months, the daily forecast used Partly Cloudy and Partly Sunny, back and forth.</p>
<p>Someone very famous, maybe Socrates, perhaps Einstein, stated: The Beginning Of Wisdom Starts By Stating &#8220;I Don&#8217;t Know.&#8221; </p>
<p>We know some things. The Sun is very hot. Sometimes it is hotter. The long-term sunspot patterns will not be determined for many, many years. Right now, on Earth, we believe that there are long, long periods of much colder temperatures. Perhaps 100,000 years of cold, with warming periods of 10-15,000 years. What involvement, what types of back and forth conditions, patterns of the Sun are a part of this will be revealed. </p>
<p>I would love to have a peak into the future, when the Great Cold returns. I imagine a future Comedy Channel, with one weekly show dedicated to laughing at AlGore and his minions stating &#8220;The Earth Has A Fever&#8221; as the viewers shiver.</p>
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		By: gbaikie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2024 02:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;After several months in which the number of sunspots rose considerably each month, in September the sunspot count crashed, dropping precipitously to levels closer to the various predictions of solar scientists, but still far above what they had all expected at this time of the solar maximum.&quot;

Predictions years before cycle 25 started. But there are on going forecasts, such as &quot;Solar Cycle Progression Updated Prediction (Experimental)&quot;
https://testbed.spaceweather.gov/products/solar-cycle-progression-updated-prediction-experimental

&quot;In 2018-2019, NOAA, NASA, and the International Space Environment Service (ISES) convened an international panel to predict the amplitude of Solar Cycle 25 and the date at which solar maximum will occur.  The panel solicited for community input and received nearly 50 distinct predictions that were synthesized into a single prediction, with a range of uncertainty.  The uncertainty range of the panel prediction, issued in 2019, is shown as the shaded red area in Figure 1.

Within several years, it became clear that this panel prediction was too low, just beyond the estimated range of uncertainty.  Though it is still interesting from a scientific standpoint to compare the observed progression with the prediction made before the cycle started, a more reliable forecast is needed to accurately assess the potential for space weather hazards.

An updated forecast for the amplitude and timing of Solar Cycle 25 is shown by the magenta line in Figure 1. &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After several months in which the number of sunspots rose considerably each month, in September the sunspot count crashed, dropping precipitously to levels closer to the various predictions of solar scientists, but still far above what they had all expected at this time of the solar maximum.&#8221;</p>
<p>Predictions years before cycle 25 started. But there are on going forecasts, such as &#8220;Solar Cycle Progression Updated Prediction (Experimental)&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://testbed.spaceweather.gov/products/solar-cycle-progression-updated-prediction-experimental" rel="nofollow ugc">https://testbed.spaceweather.gov/products/solar-cycle-progression-updated-prediction-experimental</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In 2018-2019, NOAA, NASA, and the International Space Environment Service (ISES) convened an international panel to predict the amplitude of Solar Cycle 25 and the date at which solar maximum will occur.  The panel solicited for community input and received nearly 50 distinct predictions that were synthesized into a single prediction, with a range of uncertainty.  The uncertainty range of the panel prediction, issued in 2019, is shown as the shaded red area in Figure 1.</p>
<p>Within several years, it became clear that this panel prediction was too low, just beyond the estimated range of uncertainty.  Though it is still interesting from a scientific standpoint to compare the observed progression with the prediction made before the cycle started, a more reliable forecast is needed to accurately assess the potential for space weather hazards.</p>
<p>An updated forecast for the amplitude and timing of Solar Cycle 25 is shown by the magenta line in Figure 1. &#8220;</p>
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