One of your problems is that you revealed early on that you think anyone who disagrees with you is dumb. What’s the word for someone who is that intolerant of other people’s opinions?

Each time you write something here, you verify Robert’s comment. You should have quit while you were that far behind. Instead, you keep going and keep getting farther behind. It is entertaining.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/09/john-durhams-blind-mans-bluff-on-dns-visibility/

It’s a bit of a long read, lots of detail and links, Enjoy!

TL/DR : Durham is incompetent, as shown by his lack of results.

I do not know under what conditions he would once again make those honest and rational observations and share them today.

He went way, way down the rabbit hole where he traded away his personal integrity and that degree of treachery is not recoverable from without some major confessions and big public come to Jesus moment.

Cotour: Sadly, not what I was hoping for. These comments by Lemon are from a decade ago. They simply are another indication of the collapse of intellectual thought in America. I was hoping (unrealistically I know) that you had found Lemon now coming to a realization that his opinions in the past five years or so have been wrong. Foolish me.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-2023-don-lemon-would-accuse-2013-don-lemon-being-white-supremacist

Scroll down and see the “White Supremacist” Don Lemon.

Cotour: I don’t get “the idea” because I can’t see anything. I repeat: Your link doesn’t go anywhere useful.

But you get the idea

Cotour: Your link doesn’t go anywhere. Can you provide a real link?

DON, IS THAT REALLY YOU?

What changed in Don Lemon’s reality? ($$$$$$ ?????)

I cannot believe my ears! I had to play it twice! Could have knocked me over with a feather!

Don Lemon literally sounds even more rational and Conservative than any Conservative I know! Don lemon is a rational Conservative and has just been pumping a radical Leftist soulless CNN corporate agenda narrative in search of political power, influence and absolute corporate hand in hand with government control over YOU!? Nooooo! Tell me it is not so.

And this is not that long ago apparently. Thank you, Don, in the end you have by accident served a useful journalistic purpose in actually informing the public about what is actually underway in our country. And so, you must ask, why?

The soulless corporate media is corrupt, the soulless entity government is corrupt, and they are both joined and are working in unison seeking to literally enslave your mind and all your future potential in the pursuit of raw power and control under the “righteous” banner of an elite agenda that is supposedly “smarter”, much, much more “educated” and more informed than YOU.

And that condition where government and corporate entities are joined and are working in unison in the interests of consolidating political power and control is the technical definition of actual Fascism. Reconcile that!

Neither of these soulless entities can help themselves, that is what they naturally are and that is what they do. They can be and in time do nothing else. And there is but one structural concept in governance that seeks in some way, shape or form to objectively force both soulless entities back into a middle Left / middle Right truth in reality.

And that one concept, forcing some measure of truth in reality into the public realm is what the Constitution of the United States attempts to structure and accomplish. And that is why they as soulless entities are working in concert to undermine and hollow it all out. The Constitution is about empowering and protecting YOU and YOUR Rights and Freedom of Choice and YOUR Self-Interests from these natural abusers and accumulators of power.

Reread: Strategy Over Morality and understand where the justification for such in your face raw political power grabs are formulated and are subjectively justified. Just the tip of a very dirty, perverted and corrupt very big iceberg that needs to be melted down by you as an individual by being properly informed so you can properly choose when you vote. And that is what this is all about, YOU and that vote!

Are you paying attention yet America? jgl 6/5/23

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You give away that you didn’t even read the report yourself. Otherwise you would have phrased that differently. It also explains why you don’t quote the report but link to your “source of facts” instead, again without quoting them to make your point or any point, for that matter. Your “amazing resource” amazes, all right, but not in the way you wanted..

In fact, you give away that you don’t even think that your sources of facts read the report. You don’t think anyone read it. Those sources of facts turned out to be not facts but mere opinion, scrambling to spin the report, to discredit it without even reading it. (Where did I read that before?) Opinions that support your pre-judged bias, which is why you think they are so wonderful.

I don’t link to drivel. If you read the linked articles they disprove the garbage Durham put out. Marcy Wheeler has a PhD in comparative literature and actually reads all the court filings, and creates detailed time-lines of each story she’s covering. She lays out in great detail all the errors and lies in Durham’s report. The facts are the facts. You are welcome to believe any fairy tales you want

Did you read the Durham report, or are you taking Bob’s assessment as accurate?

Durham at all the powers of a special prosecutor and couldn’t find anything, perhaps he’s incompetent.

If you actually read the linked articles, Thanks!

Gee, Bosco, we are supposed to believe the drivel that you link, which does not disprove anything and proves nothing, but you are allowed to willy nilly disbelieve anything that is contrary to your belief system? Can I get my wasted time back?

“BTW Bob your mind reading act is still not ready for prime time. Wrong on all counts, as per usual.”

It looks like Robert didn’t have to read your mind to understand you. It turns out he was right on all counts, as per usual.

If you want to drop the name of a particular website in order to promote it because you believe it to be relevant then so be it, that is a valid endeavor.

However, when someone drones on and on about a particular website and its relevant content and is only willing to assign that it be read and not bring to the table any of its relevant content and is not willing to present their logic as to why the information contained therin, then something is amiss.

What you present is a promotion and not content and that is about something other than what most people who participate in such things are looking for.

If you have nothing to say other than:

*READ THIS WEBSITE, (READ MY GIRLFRIENDS WEBSITE?) LOOK AT THIS WEBSITE, HILLARY IS REALLY THE VICTIM AND NOT THE HEAD OF AN INTERNATIONAL POLITCAL EXTORSION AND INFLUENCE OPERATION, DURHAM IS COVERING FOR TRUMP, EVERYTHING THAT YOU KNOW AND UNDERSTAND AS BEST AS YOU CAN ABOUT THE TREACHERY AND CORRUPTION THAT IS THE POLITCAL POWER GAME IS TOTALLY AND ENTIRELY WRONG AND INCORRECT.* (I am yelling these headlines)

Then that is unusual to say the least and there is something else going on other than an honest conversation between semi rational people looking to actually understand what is what and not continue the distraction, chaos and confusion that is presented by the political operatives and their handmaidens in the media and big tech. You appear to be someone who is promoting the distraction, chaos and confusion.

And that is what I see. Is what it is.

PS: I and most others here and in the real world will include supporting information / video / articles etc. that is relevant to their argument. Most.

If you’re not going to do the reading we have nothing to discuss. I read the links you post, even when they are from 2015, or 2022, and even when they are not germane to the subject at hand.

Take a chance! Learn something, instead of trying to argue about a report you don’t understand.

Is guessing about people based on sentence structure one of your hobbies? Or was that just a subtle way to do a little “name calling”?

Did you actually read the Durham report? Did anyone read it? You all act as if it vindicated your darkest fears but yet you don’t even know what it says.

Are you Russian? Or Chinese?

Not that there is anything wrong with being either.

If you would like to post something that disputes my understanding about politics, Hillary and her activities and the actions of those within government who have been defending and covering for her please have at it.

Tell me, tell me what you think or believe, don’t give me reading assignments.

My purpose in pointing you to emptywheel is to expose you, or anyone else who cares to do a little reading, to a source of facts not filtered through the conservative media Bob follows.

The linked article disproves everything you believe based on your reply. I urge you to read it and please follow the links she provides.

I’m personally not a fan of Hillary, but your reply is just gibberish.

Durham did not verify anything, you need to read the article and pay attention to the time-line. She lays it out in detail with all the receipts.

If you find any actual errors in her post I would like to hear about it, I don’t think you’ll be successful.

Your desire for Hillary to be the boogie man controlling everything is not a good look.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/memo-fbi-used-tainted-steele-dossier-paid-for-by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/

FEC fines Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC over Trump-Russia dossier research

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html

Bosco, what do you not get about this? You sound unhinged just like Nicole Wallace or Keith Olberman. And what is your obsession and roll in pushing this Empty Wheel site?

Hillary invented the Russia “collusion” and apparently conspired with both the president at the time and the vice president, and her people paid for a report that muddied up Trump and tried to tie him to the Russians in order to win the presidency because she understood that her blatant erasing of her emails and her home server were a great liability.

And she in fact lost because she was not trusted and was in fact hated and despised when she and many others thought she was beloved. Not to mention the Mueller report which was just another DOJ political weaponized swipe at Trump. This is the dirtiest and the most highly illegal politics in the history of America. Watergate? That is like kindergarten time.

And then the FBI and the CIA used it and other fabricated rumors to again try to muddy up Trump. Now its getting scarry, no? Or you are good with all this stuff?

And Durham just verified the entire scheme.

And it is all when boiled down all about Ma Barker and her losing her anointed place as the first female president of the United States. It just is what it is no matter what other distractionary details are thrown out for those who just cannot bring themselves to the reality of the situation.

And Joe Biden and those who are running him are just executing an accelerated execution of the “transfom America” agenda by the radical Left.

And that is what this is all about in a nut shell.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

This one is right up your alley and addresses your Ma Barker fantasy.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/01/john-durham-fabricated-his-basis-to-criminalize-oppo-research/

Enjoy!

BTW Bob your mind reading act is still not ready for prime time. Wrong on all counts, as per usual.

Don’t quit your day job.

And so THAT person they fear the most or someone much like them MUST become politically empowered in America.

And most of those who have arrived at a different conclusion on the subject can NEVER articulate what they actually intend or believe in and or why they religiously believe what it is that they believe. NEVER, not in my experience, there is no capacity.

Give me data, give me evidence, give me something other than your religion and what it mandates you believe.

If Trump is guilty of being a Russian asset, please demonstrate it to me and I will do a 180 and put him in the same exact class as the now clearly compromised IMO and even traitor, Joe Biden. 100 percent.

And does anyone think that of those several very powerful three letter government agencies had that evidence by now we would have clearly all have been made aware of it.

Cotour: Bosco Bob’s point is that no Democrat can ever do wrong, and no Republican can ever do right. Thus, the persecution of Trump must have been justified, even if it came up empty.

And he will do anything possible to avoid any facts that contradict that stand.

He is like all those New Yorkers you live with, who can’t see the monster in the room and keep voting for it.

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From todays Daily Caller:

“Soviet dissident Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote in Gulag Archipelago (pg. 505 if you’re interested) that in the early days of the USSR, thieves and murderers were often treated with kid gloves. They could be rehabilitated, the party line went, and they were often allowed to commit crime if they targeted the right people.

Not so for anyone considered a “political criminal,” either directly or by association. Those people eventually ended up in the GULAG. Now this might seem unsurprising, until you realize that the crime of opposing the state could be something as simple as having more money than your neighbor, belonging to the wrong ethnic group, being Christian or simply existing.”

Instead of just throwing out reading assignments would you please give YOUR assessment about what your actual point is, please?

If your main thesis is that Trump is in fact a Russian agent please support that contention, there has to be some supporting documentation / evidence somewhere. Trump has been intensely investigated and attacked for years now ever since he rode that escalator down in Trump Tower when he announced he would run for president.

And what exactly have the most powerful government agencies the DOJ, CIA, FBI, IRS that stand squarely against him politically that demonstrates and supports your contention, what have they come up with? I cannot see it.

The leadership powers that be within government that are the natural enemy of yours, mine and everyone else in the Pedestrian Realms Rights and freedoms always tells you who they fear the most, and that person is clearly to me Trump. And so, the best thing for the country and those Rights and freedoms as they are, if that is what you agree America as founded is actually in some great way about is clearly Trump or someone very much like him.

What exactly is your point?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/ny-times-hillary-clinton-approved-russian-uranium-deal-133318767.html/

And Hillary Clinton (Ma Barker) who was the then Secretary of State and who was the soon to be elected, solid locked in next president of the United States that NO ONE would dare stand in the way of who had the final say over any such international transactions concerning the United States uranium $upply.

And this is what PolitiFact has to say about it. Seems both Hillary and the Bidens were perfecting their very financially rewarding politically empowered / business models. They were getting paid while Trump has lost a billion dollars at least in net wealth. What does that tell you? Who is who and what is what?

“The claim that the Clinton Foundation received $125 million for Uranium One is false. According to Politifact, the bulk of the money donated to the Clinton Foundation, about $131 million, came from Giustra — a businessman from Canada, not Russia. In 2009, Russia’s nuclear energy agency bought a 17% share of Uranium One. A year later, it bought enough shares to give it a 51% stake. However, the chairman of Uranium One used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons”

If you have a NYT’s subscription you can read the very detailed actual reporting about the subject here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Who is Frank Giustra?

https://heavy.com/news/2020/01/frank-giustra/

Six of one, half a dozen of the other?

Tell me Bosco, what is your point?

Some reading material for a relaxing evening.

More pesky facts about the Durham report.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/durham-report-isnt-about-the-past-its-about-the-future

Enjoy!

Emptywheel has the facts and links to them all. She discusses in particular the CNN clip pictured that you quoted.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/05/25/how-cnn-inculpated-john-durham-while-purportedly-exonerating-trump/

Have a great day.
Enjoy!

I was simply trying to expose you and your readers to an amazing resource.

I should have ignored the reply and the dismissive attitude.

https://youtu.be/lyEFiaUQYGE

You know, the chocolate syrup :)

Bosco Bob: You are welcome to come here and present your point of view. (I don’t believe in blacklisting people I disagree with, as I think you do.) You however are not welcome to come here and insult people. You are warned. Use insults again as an argument and I will suspend you for a week. Repeat it again after that and I will ban you.

Some more of what is really the point, the FBI has become an even more corrupt and abusive of their power and defiant agency and extension of political agenda. And it needs to be dismantled and reassembled in some significant way shape or form. Many in the FBI leadership need to be indicted themselves. But alas they will not for they are but extensions of the Political realm and are immune.

https://youtu.be/KfzHX2r2nSA

And again, it all comes down to one person, Ma Barker.

(You are very intimidating Bosco)