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		By: wade		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wade]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[i cant believe how Mr.  zimmermans site of scientific ideals has turned so political in its volume. we all sound live an eastern nation before it fell]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant believe how Mr.  zimmermans site of scientific ideals has turned so political in its volume. we all sound live an eastern nation before it fell</p>
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		By: wade		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[they will say Anything to get the job....and it only pays a trifle of their personal worth. For Fame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they will say Anything to get the job&#8230;.and it only pays a trifle of their personal worth. For Fame.</p>
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		By: Kelly Starks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly Starks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-full-gingrich-speech-on-space/#comment-39457&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

Sadly true.  

Gingritch talked about great visions, but with no substance to how he&#039;ld do them, what it would cost, etc.  Tried to do a JFK &quot;put a man on the moon by the end of the decade&quot; speech.  But most of that speach was ignored and forgotten, and the moon flight was really seen as a race with the Soviets, and folks trusted the gov back then.  

Now in the US, with the gov having spent decades crushing them and convincing them space is impossible, they want to hear the &quot;how&quot; clearly outlined.  Newt was bouncing all over on imges, anecdotes etc, but not meat.

His idea for prizes (around 25min) to acheve stuff has merit - but getting the gov, or voters, to set aside $2B a year from NASA for prizes?  Good luck.  Further doing what he says for what he wants to putout ($10B to get to Mars, etc) how much could you get for that?  Not only the question could any research team develop that much for that (launchers, life support systems, landers, etc) test them, etc for $10B or attract the difference?  I mean the Xprize attracted Paul Allen to spend $25M for $1M, but billions?!  2nd, how much useful tech would you get out of those prizes?  SS1 turned out to not be very comercilizable.  Would the Marsprize craft be good for much?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-full-gingrich-speech-on-space/#comment-39457">Jim</a>.</p>
<p>Sadly true.  </p>
<p>Gingritch talked about great visions, but with no substance to how he&#8217;ld do them, what it would cost, etc.  Tried to do a JFK &#8220;put a man on the moon by the end of the decade&#8221; speech.  But most of that speach was ignored and forgotten, and the moon flight was really seen as a race with the Soviets, and folks trusted the gov back then.  </p>
<p>Now in the US, with the gov having spent decades crushing them and convincing them space is impossible, they want to hear the &#8220;how&#8221; clearly outlined.  Newt was bouncing all over on imges, anecdotes etc, but not meat.</p>
<p>His idea for prizes (around 25min) to acheve stuff has merit &#8211; but getting the gov, or voters, to set aside $2B a year from NASA for prizes?  Good luck.  Further doing what he says for what he wants to putout ($10B to get to Mars, etc) how much could you get for that?  Not only the question could any research team develop that much for that (launchers, life support systems, landers, etc) test them, etc for $10B or attract the difference?  I mean the Xprize attracted Paul Allen to spend $25M for $1M, but billions?!  2nd, how much useful tech would you get out of those prizes?  SS1 turned out to not be very comercilizable.  Would the Marsprize craft be good for much?</p>
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		By: Kelly Starks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly Starks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cool finally the full speech!  All I could find were 6 min clips.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool finally the full speech!  All I could find were 6 min clips.</p>
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		By: Walter Walkie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter Walkie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i liked the part of newt&#039;s speech when he said that lincoln first campaigned on building a railroad before there were trains around . cool history]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i liked the part of newt&#8217;s speech when he said that lincoln first campaigned on building a railroad before there were trains around . cool history</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-full-gingrich-speech-on-space/#comment-39456&quot;&gt;jwing&lt;/a&gt;.

You and I both know you are right. Its just that this not what voters heard last night from 3 of the 4 candidates. I was thinking after I posted something above, it is interesting to break down Romney&#039;s quote:
‘I spent 25 years in business. If I had a business executive come to me and say they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, I’d say, ‘You’re fired!’.’

Here is what he told voters in one sentence:
I&#039;m a business man, and Mr. Gingrich is not.
The Gingrich proposal will cost hundreds of billions of dollars, you will pay for it no matter what he says, and that is not worthy of business, no less government.
I would fire this guy, and you should also on Tuesday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-full-gingrich-speech-on-space/#comment-39456">jwing</a>.</p>
<p>You and I both know you are right. Its just that this not what voters heard last night from 3 of the 4 candidates. I was thinking after I posted something above, it is interesting to break down Romney&#8217;s quote:<br />
‘I spent 25 years in business. If I had a business executive come to me and say they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, I’d say, ‘You’re fired!’.’</p>
<p>Here is what he told voters in one sentence:<br />
I&#8217;m a business man, and Mr. Gingrich is not.<br />
The Gingrich proposal will cost hundreds of billions of dollars, you will pay for it no matter what he says, and that is not worthy of business, no less government.<br />
I would fire this guy, and you should also on Tuesday.</p>
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		By: jwing		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why does it have to be a government program?  Two brothers from Dayton, Ohio over 100 years ago dreamed lofty dreams with no government funding and beat Langley (the government funded apponent) and everyone else.  Edison, the Wright brothers, Ford, Rockereller, Tesla, ect. were not dependent on government largess and approval to dream and succeed.
  
Individuals tinkering and inventing is the meaning of  &quot;American Exceptionalism.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does it have to be a government program?  Two brothers from Dayton, Ohio over 100 years ago dreamed lofty dreams with no government funding and beat Langley (the government funded apponent) and everyone else.  Edison, the Wright brothers, Ford, Rockereller, Tesla, ect. were not dependent on government largess and approval to dream and succeed.</p>
<p>Individuals tinkering and inventing is the meaning of  &#8220;American Exceptionalism.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, here&#039;s the thing. Its not so much that there is no place for lofty goals and vision. Its that there is no place for that in the current Republican party. In last night&#039;s debate, the vision of new space goals by Newt Gingrich was deftly swatted away by not just one of his opponents, but all three, with the most damning comment from Mitt Romney:
&#039;I spent 25 years in business. If I had a business executive come to me and say they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, I&#039;d say, &#039;You&#039;re fired!&#039;.&#039;

Now you can say that is a shallow understanding of the Gingrich proposal, but that does not matter. Romney just told Republicans voting in a primary that his opponent is looking to create a new government program that will cost  tax payers billions.
And that, at least today, has resonance with those who will vote on Tuesday.
Not many will view the entire Gingrich speech, but many heard Romney last night.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here&#8217;s the thing. Its not so much that there is no place for lofty goals and vision. Its that there is no place for that in the current Republican party. In last night&#8217;s debate, the vision of new space goals by Newt Gingrich was deftly swatted away by not just one of his opponents, but all three, with the most damning comment from Mitt Romney:<br />
&#8216;I spent 25 years in business. If I had a business executive come to me and say they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, I&#8217;d say, &#8216;You&#8217;re fired!&#8217;.&#8217;</p>
<p>Now you can say that is a shallow understanding of the Gingrich proposal, but that does not matter. Romney just told Republicans voting in a primary that his opponent is looking to create a new government program that will cost  tax payers billions.<br />
And that, at least today, has resonance with those who will vote on Tuesday.<br />
Not many will view the entire Gingrich speech, but many heard Romney last night.</p>
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