The left is not working to stop the violence. From what I hear elsewhere and from commenters here on BTB, the left seems to be eager for that “short window” to close and for the hammer to strike. They clearly intend to continue blaming the right for whatever response is perpetrated upon them and to continue their “our violence is speech” rhetoric. The left is in full victim mode, right down to the point where they claim to be unfairly blamed for the violence, as they claim the righties are the violent ones and they, the left, are the tolerant ones. Of course, they are especially tolerant of assassinations of right-wing individuals, especially since they feel that it is the right-wing itself causing all of that violence. They deny that their side is the violent side, but they cheer the violence, because for them it is directed in the right direction.

They are hoping for stochastic violence to come soon from the right, then they themselves can emphasize their own point. They are currently in defensive mode, denying the reality. They hope that they can soon move into offensive mode, with a changed reality.

The left wins in all cases. They deny that they are violent, because they are tolerant and violence is the only way anyone hears them, so they win when they are violent. They attack when the right is violent, and of course they win that one. So, now they want the stochastic violence to come from the right, and they will win the big prize and win elections of leftist politicians around the country.

I think the individual who has been most effective at turning things around is Bill Maher.

There is also a Tyrus-like former inmate who discovered some “hole-puncher” videos…that a euphemism like “un-alived.”

So it’s time to make them change their policy.

https://youtu.be/W37y1S6L14U?si=BnELZOOGv1dy0CDH 1min 30 sec.

The D.J. Trump administration (R) IS without doubt a threat to Democracy, the Democrat party’s version of “Democracy”.

The second amendment kicks in and order will be restored by the people.
The second amendment gives the people the power to not just overthrow a bad government but the power to produce a new government from a failed one.

Peaceable assembly is fine and expected from all sides but as soon as one side tries physical violence they give up their right to peaceable assembly.

This should be reflected in legally jailing those members who use physical violence. We must trust the government do this consistently and legally.
If our government fails either in the Consistent or legal enforcement of our laws then its left to the people to do it in anyway needed and possible.

If the local government fails the state must step in, if the state fails the federal government must step in.
Trump sending in the federal authorities is actually saving those failed governments from the civilians who will eventually, inevitably rise up to replace them with force or enforce the laws themselves.

The conservatives, the right, are trying to let the governments uphold the laws.
If all or at least most of the armed right just break out their arms and starts to patrol their own neighborhoods the left could do nothing about it. They would essentially loose their right to free speech in public places,
Criminals will no longer be arrested by the police but just shot at by the civilian patrols.
Suspected drug dealers homes will just be burned out by hoards of civilians.

The left is protected by the law and the law keepers. Please do not force the civilians to take to arms.

Remember? I’ve been politically online since 9/11 (albeit with varying degrees of care) and I have no idea what you’re talking about, and a quick search indicates that, if true, it’s been fairly solidly memory-holed.

And if such an incident unraveled the movement, it would have had to have been fairly well-known. So, details and, especially, sources seem warranted.

The general consensus at the time, as I recall, was the approach of winter, a crackdown by law enforcement as it became harder and harder to deny the criminality rampant in the Occupy encampments, and just plain boredom because they weren’t very successful at exerting influence.

I was right, because I said that MY vote would not change things. And it did not. You live in a place where the outcomes are not preordained. At least not yet.

California has a special election coming up in which my vote has a slight chance. Newsom has responded to Texas’s response to the court ruling that Texas was gerrymandered, and he needs our permission to break the law that directs how to redistrict the state. Newsom has announced his intention to gerrymander California in favor of his own party. I may be able to make a difference in this election, but the challenge is that Newsom is making it an anti-Trump election, and California is mostly suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, where the worst possible decisions are seen as acceptable as long as it might hurt Trump maybe.
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John S. wrote: “Personally I even hold the current US Republican Party somewhat negligent, incompetent, or in just failing to articulate the human dignity of freedom and the psychological misdirection of Leftism;”

The Republican Party chose to do what it has always done when the left went farther left: they also moved toward the left in order to pick up voters that the Democrats left behind. It worked with Trump and then Musk, but that is because the Republicans forgot to stop moving so far to the left, filling the huge gap that the Democrats left behind. The Republicans failed to get as many people as they thought, because this time the Democrat voters have finally moved way far to the left with their party. That is why boys can go into the girls’ locker rooms and that boys can be girls, why DIE is seen as reasonable, why massive numbers of illegal aliens are acceptable despite the hardship they put on the citizenry, and why Democrat voters are unable to see that Trump is just as much of a leftist that they had been in the year 2007.
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agimarc wrote: “… I expect they will end up with Vigilance Committees, street trials, rope and trees (or lampposts) until the brainwashing poison is washed out of them.”

Does anyone remember what ended the entire “Occupy” movement? The group in one city decided to hold a march across a bridge, and it turned out that the same leaders who had called for that march had also placed bombs on the bridge, intending to blame the explosions on the right-wing.

Once the leadership of the movement lost their credibility, the entire nationwide movement ended by sunset of the next day, leaving tons of trash in its wake.

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This is the highest form of leadership that the Democrat party in America has.

A petulant child and it is embarrassing in the extreme, and it will deliver the Republicans to national political power for the next 23.5 years at least. If they can control themselves and keep their feet out of the own behinds. But compared to the Democrat leader of today that should not be too difficult.

I grew up in, lived in, worked in, and bought a house in the Heart of the Hive™ of Southwest Minneapolis. As soon as I retired from the rather specialized job that had held us there we left. We had originally intended to just leave the disintegrating city, but realized that the Twin Cities would take the rest of the state down with it when it finally collapses. We left the state with some regret, since it is physically beautiful, but also with the realization that even though the rural areas of the state are solidly Rep-wing they will be subsumed by the teeming masses of collectivists in the major urban areas.

At our age we are dependent on civilization for our life-sustaining medications, and will not survive an upheaval lasting more than a few months that would accompany any form of mass civil disruption. But I don’t see an alternative to it. In my estimation the Dem-wing is now run openly by their Communist extreme, and anyone who still supports it is now equally culpable in the results of its actions.

It was a nice republic while we had it, but the actions of the people in electing collectivists has destroyed it. The 16th and 17th Amendments were the nails in the coffin of the Republic allowing taxes to be collected by the Federal government without any check and mandating direct election of Senators. The country may have had a chance had state legislatures still elected Senators, but reducing it from a process of deliberation among elected officials to pure-quill “democracy” of counting runny noses eliminated that small chance.

I hate to say it, but there’s nothing wrong with Dem-wing run urban centers that can’t be fixed with a couple of dozen 1-megaton weapons. The only thing that they are producing are parasites, of both the government and private stripe.

Fortunately it won’t come to that. They’ve PROVEN that they’ll burn down their own homes and cities all by themselves. All we have to do it let them.

People on the right “You guys murdered the last person who tried that”

The left and their Antifa shock troops are trying to trigger another Fort Sumter. At best they will get a Harper’s Ferry. Either way, I expect they will end up with Vigilance Committees, street trials, rope and trees (or lampposts) until the brainwashing poison is washed out of them. And make no mistake, their crazies are completely brainwashed. Happily, brainwashing requires continual reinforcement. Once that is gone, those brainwashed are well on their way to recovery, the first of which will be a debilitating bout with cognitive dissonance.

Message to the left: be very careful what you wish for, as you may get it. Good and hard. Cheers –

https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/democrats-must-have-violence-will-there-be-blood

What is it that the mass of the Democrat party machine in each deep blue Democrat strong hold state and city is pushing in the media to take place? VIOLENCE, BLOOD AND BODIES LYING IN THE STREET! The Democrats MUST have this. If not it, then what?

And why is that?

Because the now politically naked and neutered now Leftist dominated Democrats have nothing else by which to strategically portray Trump in a negative manner and gain political leverage in the media and power back during the coming 2026 political contests.

The Democrats midterm election hopes will not be fulfilled if the Trump MAGA pro-American juggernaut is allowed to continue unchallenged. And the ONLY thing left that may successfully accomplish their now gaining desperation, is the blood of innocent Americans running in the streets. And that is what the Democrats not so shy rhetoric now indicates.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/what-is-the-insurrection-act-and-can-trump-invoke-it-potus-says-he-may-do-it-if/ar-AA1NYSn1?ocid=BingNewsSerp

The Democrat party’s clearly weak and incompetent Leftist ant-American leadership in their desperation must seek the “NUCLEAR” political option. The flaccid nature of Schumer, Jefferies and many others within brings desperation. And that means radicals in the streets and the blood of innocent men, women and even better, children lying severally wounded or dead on the streets. The Democrats dependent, chronic crime, drug abuse, prostitution and despair ridden cities are prime for this perverted meme fulfillment.

They need the dramatic imagery in order to point the finger of blame to the Right to gain political leverage.

Political warfare is warfare none the less, and what is are the rules in warfare?

THERE ARE NONE!

The pursuit of political / governmental power has nothing to do with truth or morality, that is not the business of politics or government. Truth and morality are the business of the people. See clearly.

Are You Paying Attention Yet America? JGL 10/7/25

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https://www.kunstler.com/p/standoff

Like Hamas, the Democrats have been bloodied, but they are not giving up. Not by a long shot. The danger, as Robert suggests, is that we will forget our commitment to the Constitution and the Rule of Law at the very time that they are abandoning the facade of being a
“normal” political party that is looking out for the welfare of its constituents and presenting themselves, now, as a socialist revolutionary front. The hope, as expressed in some of the comments, is that conventional Democrats will walk away from this madness, but like the Palestinians in Gaza, the Democrat base in blue states and districts seems incapable of connecting the dots and throwing off the people who so casually use them as human shields and canon fodder.

Looking to history, our situation would seem to be somewhat like that of the United States at the end of the Civil War, and after the victory in 2024, there are still a lot of “unreconstructed” Democrats who still believe in the moral equivalent of slavery and aren’t about to give it up. These people reject the results of the election, just as they reject America’s history, culture, and traditional way of life,
and they wish to have no part of it.

In another analogy, it is though at the end of World War II there were pockets of Nazi sympathizers left in sundry American cities and states* who refused to recognize the Allied victory and subject themselves to American law and institutions. (What would FDR have done?) The people — well, the majority of the electorate, at least — in Portland and Chicago clearly *love* Antifa and everything that it stands for more than the Constitution, and they would rather be living in a place like Canada, if not Cuba if they could.** Likewise, it appears that they will go on happily reelecting radical socialist demagogues from now until the cows come home, and New York City appears poised to do the same.

*Before Pearl Harbor, there was a strong America First movement and the German Bund, but the catalyzing, national character forging events of World War II pretty much obviated their influence in this country. In our present situation, however, we have seen an increasingly fractured — and radically self centered — culture instead, and nobody seems to know how to fix this.

**Could we swap western Washington State and Oregon for the Canadian province of Alberta? Everyone, I think, would be much happier after such an exchange.

Pretty clearly, we are at a Fourth Turning movement in American History, and we are facing a huge — and possibly irreparable — cultural divide. But how do we extricate ourselves from this and go on, if we can, as a untied country / culture / civilization?

This is not good.

I fear that will not happen. The Democrat base is fired up and will pull out all stops next year. Their base turnout will be high, and so will their cheating. On the Republican side, too many will think we have won (especially if Trump’s policies start delivering results) and decide to stay home. While independents will continue to drift right, it will be too little for a real Republican blowout.

We will end up with another narrowly divided Congress (albeit one slighting favoring Republicans) and the Democrats will decide that the problem was turning the dial to 11 on a scale of 10 wasn’t enough. If the crank things up further still *next time* it will guarantee victory. If so, things could easily slide to civil war – Bosnian style rather than first US Civil War style.

I think that was distilled down once

“Beware the anger of a patient man.”

Either by law or by mayhem the Democrats will get the fight they lust for.

P.S. Hunkering down into defense is what losers do. That’s what Trump’s DoJ has done so far. 100% defense.

James Street: That quote describes Israel to a T since the October 7th Hamas massacre two years ago.

They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives.

They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone!”

– author unknown

Edward: It appears at first glance as if you and I have traded positions. Before the election you thought voting no longer made any difference and that we were doomed, and I argued the election could change things.

Post election it appears I was right, even more than I dreamed.

As for now, I am not as pessimistic as my post suggests. I wrote it specifically for the few lefties who still read BtB, in my never-ending effort to make them realize they have allied themselves with a truly evil movement. It is not what they imagine, and they need to recognize that or all will be doomed.

As you note, many are realizing this. At the same time, considering the behavior of the Democrats and their radical contingent in the past year, that the elections in Virginia and New Jersey are still close, and that polls suggest the Democrats will win, says that not as many ordinary Democrats have realized these facts as we wish, or as is necessary.

We still sit on a knife edge.