Of course he is culpable. Asking people to peaceably petition Congress for redress of grievances is anti-American, incites violence, and is unconstitutional.

Oh, wait. It is exactly what the Constitution allows and encourages, so now we do not have Trump being responsible but the Constitution itself.

What we actually have is people afraid that an investigation will show that the election was fraudulent, which would require that something be done about it. That is just too scary for most of today’s leaders — so who is showing the poor leadership? It is those who won’t even examine the evidence of election fraud. Trump never had his day in court, because the courts refused to hear his cases. Refusal of a hearing of evidence does not constitute having a day in court.

Thus, America’s elections are no longer free or fair, and democracy in America has come to an end.

Too many people are willing to let democracy in America die of unnatural causes.

2020 seemed like the worst year of our lives, but this year we are no longer allowed our constitutionally protected rights. Exercising them could result in impeachment or other persecution. Even if we work with or for someone or associate with someone who exercises his rights, we could be persecuted. 2021 is even worse than 2020. Democracy is not the only thing that died in America; liberty is dead, too.

“Of course I quoted Snopes because it isn’t right wing. There would be little point quoting such an article if it was in “The Gateway Pundit” or such as people would automatically assume it was tilted toward Trump.”

Whenever a right-wing source is cited, the leftists dismisses it as un-reputable or unreliable. Even when a left-wing source is cited but does not agree with the leftist’s argument at hand, it is also dismissed — because it disagreed. For the left, only agreeable citations are valid. Thus they cannot lose any argument, no matter how atrociously wrong they are.

Welcome to Obama’s America, land of the formerly free.

I found a bit of time to look at a few of the court decisions and Trump’s team’s claims were not heard by the court. The cases were blocked on procedural grounds (lack of jurisdiction, petitioner lacked proper standing etc). The evidence was not heard by the court.
This is not a surprise as it’s difficult to conduct an investigation of such a large event in a year, almost impossible in two months.
But’s also not enough time to refute Trump’s evidence and disprove his team’s allegations.

As I wrote earlier:
“But Trump should have accepted that there isn’t enough time to build a strong enough case (legally and politically) to block Biden from being put into office and he should have explained that to his followers and laid out a strategy to move forward.
So yeah, Trump has a personality flaw(s), and he clings to an opinion some feel isn’t backed by facts.
None of that is a crime.”

Rantingly was unavailable from my cellular isp for an hour… .. Hope they stay UP!
For Us all!

Rantingly just came back up!

But for How Long ?

He is in the past, behind us. He was installed through the negligence of the very party and movement that too many still think won’t continue to let them down.

“Even in 2016, the people commenting on BtB had concluded that Trump would not overturn Obama’s America but would only slow its dive into tyranny, because Trump was not Hillary. They were right. The dive was only slowed, and now it is becoming complete.”

Hillary was loathed by boots-on-the-ground Democrats and liberals. I bore personal first-hand witness to that, looking like a lefty and living in a hotbed of liberals who spoke freely around me. They hated Hillary, they were embarrassed by her, almost to a tee except for the most virulent of feminists who are at all times and places a minority, although a very LOUD minority.

Meanwhile Republicans and conservatives, chicken-hearted, guts of water, were paralyzed in fear, wringing their hands, “Hillary is going to be hard to beat, oh no! What are we gonna do?”

It is STILL going on.

Talk about beating a dead horse. My father, 100% politically prescient (every consequence of dumb political moves that he predicted and warned of, came true) Sowell-Friedman type Republican conservative, a huge Limbaugh fan in the 90s (he attended Dan’s Bake Sale), was wise to Limbaugh by 2007, although he declined to elaborate because he understood that I wasn’t advanced enough . He sadly watched people continue to admire bad strategists (if competent historians) like Mark Levin; it took me until 2012 to begin to see the light. By the primaries of 2016, it was clear as crystal that the left had captured all four categories: Republican, conservative, Democrat, and liberal, with bonus points for grabbing permanent offense superiority by calling itself “Progressive” and its opponents agreeing to it. Heads I win tails you lose.

Leave what’s in the past in the past, including now-obsolete party and movement labels (they are now anchors that drag) and watch out for traps like “voting against” (an imaginary action; a strategy based on an imaginary action is guaranteed to fail, as we have seen) and word game rabbit holes (“conservative” and “liberal” mean zero because everyone has his/her own definition and it is a cultural identity badge).

Alton: It is available as far as I can see.

Rantingly.com has now been taken into the Dark Void.. .. . …………

Happy to see that Snopes is now seen as a legitimate fact check site. They’ve been particularly active in debunking many false claims by Trump and his minions for years. I’ll remember to cite it more in the future.

Here’s the real problem: Trump had his day in court. He had many days in court. He was not able to make any of his claims stick. Dozens of lawsuits were dismissed. States did recounts and checks. Nothing changed the results. He lost the popular vote decisively. Biden won in the electoral college by the same margin Trump did four years ago. The states certified the results. Congress’ job was to count the electoral vote.

Trump lost. His duty at that point was to concede the election and ensure a smooth transition to a new administration. That’s what a patriotic president who cares about the country does. His job was not to spend months repeating false and misleading claims. The president who swore an oath to defend the Constitution should not be holding a rally on the mall to tell an armed mob election was stolen and that they should go march on Congress as they perform their Constitutional duty. It was not to trot out his personal attorney who tells them they need to have a trial by conflict.

Trump didn’t have to be explicit about attacking Congress. All he had to do was get them angry enough. And let Rudy and others say the explicit things.

As Snopes summed up:
“In short, the president called on supporters to “peacefully and patriotically” march or walk to the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, to urge members of the senate to defy the Electoral College vote in a constitutionally mandated procedure to affirm Biden’s win, without using the words “storm” or “breach” or “break into” the federal building.

Put another way, the president encouraged supporters to descend on the Capitol grounds and “cheer” on senators who would break laws governing U.S. elections, but he did not explicitly tell people to commit crimes themselves. ”

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tell-supporters-storm/

https://www.waff.com/2021/01/12/falkville-man-indicted-weapons-molotov-cocktail-charges-us-capitol-violence/

If the PBS general counsel said those things, they were right to fire him. It’s totally irresponsible rhetoric. I assume this is one thing we can both agree on. Right?

These days, the winning side of the 2020 election is getting ready to persecute many of the losing side, and those it cannot find reason to prosecute, they are finding other ways to persecute, such as going after any company that has the audacity to hire them after their time with the Trump administration. There go the standards of the USA.

They are even going after anyone who ever supported or voted for Trump. Even anyone who wants to investigate and assure that the election really was valid, such as Ted Cruz.

They are doing to Trump the same thing that the Soviet Union did to Stalin and anyone else who fell out of favor. We can see this clearly with the Great Purge, last Friday, when so many conservative voices were silenced on the internet.

Welcome to Obama’s America, land of the formerly free.

Just checkin.

I just read Trump’s speech. The whole thing from top to bottom beginning to end was a series of lies about the election, the Democrats, the media and several other subjects he rambled on about. The entire speech incited the mob with false tales of a stolen election and victimized president and supporters and demonized opponents.

Trump didn’t have to be explicit, he just had to get the crowd angry enough. He left explicit to Rudy who said they needed to have “trial by combat.” That couldn’t be more clear. It escaped no one that Trump’s personal attorney was speaking for the president.

Trump said he would walk down to Capitol with the mob. Instead he scurried back to White House where he happily watched the violence unfold on TV. That is sick.

Pink Floyd –
“Your Possible Pasts”
(1983)
https://youtu.be/v32h8aXVSic
4:20

“A warning to anyone still in command,
Of their possible future to take care.
In derelict sidings the poppies entwine,
With cattle trucks lying in wait, for the next time…”

No matter who put him in office, it is still Obama’s America now. He is the one who made the fundamental transformation. Even in 2016, the people commenting on BtB had concluded that Trump would not overturn Obama’s America but would only slow its dive into tyranny, because Trump was not Hillary. They were right. The dive was only slowed, and now it is becoming complete.

Republicans and conservatives put Obama in office by failing to provide an authentic alternative of liberty and asking me instead to vote for more government on the pretense of voting “against” it.

Those who continue to blame Obama for today’s ills are as wrong-headed and bound for defeat as could be.

In 2016, three separate times/places, three different Democrat/liberals, mistaking me for a fellow lefty because of how I dress (comfortably for my climate and lifestyle in rural coastal California), lectured me passionately, if in friendly spirit, NOT to vote for Hillary Clinton EVER. That as bad as Bernie Sanders was, and he was bad they admitted freely, he would be better than Hillary and certainly better than Trump. “If you have to hold your nose, vote for Bernie but NEVER vote for Hillary,” that is what they told me.

Now in 45 years of talking politics passionately with people who assumed wrongly my own position because of how I dress, that was the FIRST TIME I had ever been witness to such a deep divide in the Democrat party and warned the same way my fellow Republicans/conservatives had been warning against voting for a clown in their own party for at least a decade.

You had BETTER KNOW that the Democrat party is extremely divided, every bit as much as the Repubblican party. I know it. I also know that regardless of political party, the biggest mistake is thinking that there is no other alternative, that ONLY the _______ (Democrat or Republican) can ever be the Good Guys, that other party and its attending movement (liberal/conservavtive) are guaranteed to be worse so vote for the “lesser evil.”

THAT logical fallacy has infected BOTH parties.

Gary, how do you increase leftism in only the Democrat party?

You let left-leaning Republicans LOSE. If you elect the “lesser evil” Republican, you increase leftism in BOTH parties. Guaranteed, every time. It has been going on for 25 years at least and we are NOW at critical mass. And again, this C19 event coincides with this BY DESIGN.

For the love of pete, people WAKE UP. You have to fight BOTH together. Fighting only election fraud, or only C19 event despotism, is a sure way to lose liberty. Fight them BOTH as ONE ENEMY.

What an excellent point. So, according to you, President Trump did not incite the raid on the Capitol Building, because he had not thought that far.

On the other hand, the timing is all wrong. The invasion had begun even before Trump’s supposed incitement to violence, which apparently is as simple as calling someone a patriot. These were not people from Trump’ crowd, so he didn’t send them. Clearly, and most obviously, this was planned in advance, independent of Trump’s weakness, negligence, laziness, or poorly thought out wording.

On the third hand (The Gripping Hand), congress was right in the middle of performing Trump’s last chance to remain in office, which any Trump supporter would want to stop in order to support their guy.

Wait, I have that backwards. Any Trump supporter would want Congress to continue unimpeded. Trump would certainly not have wanted this to occur. He and his supporters would only have even the remotest desire to raid the Capitol Building only in the case that Congress finishes all its deliberations and have upheld the fraudulent elections in those several states.

On the fourth hand, conservatives and Trump supporters have a history of non-violence, just the opposite of the left. We can more easily conclude that the left is projecting themselves onto Trump supporters than we can conclude that the raid was performed by Trump supporters. Then there is the leftist technique of blaming others for their own actions, just like the Reichstag fire. (By the way, Hitler’s National Socialism trumps any belief he may have had in hierarchy.)

Questioner, your position is obviously wrong, but in America today, anyone not supporting The Party’s position loses his Constitutionally protected rights, as we have seen these past few days. What kind of country does that?

Welcome to Obama’s America, land of the formerly free.

“We simply cannot stay closed until the vaccine hits critical mass. The cost is too high. We will have nothing left to open. We must reopen the economy, but we must do it smartly and safely,” he tweeted Monday morning.

Why now? The numbers are way up in Covid infections and hospitalizations and you can open the economy in NYS NOW, but not before?

Oh, that’s right, 9 days to Biden.

Leslie Stahl interviews Pelosi Sunday night, confronts her on why she was an obstructionist related to the Covid stimulus for the people of America that they badly needed, basically calls her a liar. Why did she do it?

“Pelosi Admits in “60 Minutes” Tongue-Bath Interview that Motivation for Impeachment Is To Ensure “He Never Runs Again”

Oh, yeah, thats right, 9 days to Biden.

Trump has forced all Liberals and Leftists to reveal just how fraudulent they indeed are. Pure politics and its your problem if you find yourself in their way. Trump forces the Left to reveal all.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/just-parler-sues-amazon-anti-trust-violations-breach-contract-asks-judge-reinstate-platform/

Lets see who is what in this emerging technology / corporate / state government power merger being attempted, which may ultimately be successful.

This is what is presented by media:

Is it too late? Fascism expert explains the next moves from Trump’s ‘authoritarian playbook’ – Raw Story – Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism

FASCISM: Characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.

And it is in fact the Democrats and the Leftists that have taken them over and the Left leaning at the minimum Globalist big tech / Silicon Valley Social Media Billionaires that have clearly made a big move to permanently cement their censorship of Free Speech in America. And what completes the Fascistic model is their simultaneous elimination of their competitors and incorporating the government of America into their domination model.

A symbiotic relationship of oppressive censorship between tech oligarchs and oppressive government power. A true and clear abuse of power.

These tech oligarchs and government players will now tell America what it can read, see and say, the classic definition of modern day Fascism in 2021.

What political party now clearly fits that Fascist definition? Trumps Republican party? You tell me.

Once again the Left accuses the Right of exactly what it has precisely become.

I found headlines about the ACLU’s statement on several news sites but curiously it’s not in the “Free Speech” section of their own web page.

I am not convinced that they will pursue the matter.

“The Importance of Having Thick Skin”
Jocko Willink and Jordan Peterson
2018
https://youtu.be/futHL4W4E4s
6:54

FASCISM: Characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.

Now what party now clearly fits that definition?

(D. Messier, can you please give me the answer?)

Once again the Left accuses the Right of exactly what it has precisely become.

And while he is an actor, and has had his episodes of insanity, he does seem a committed more Conservative type.

Time will tell.

(It must be an interesting experience to have a conversation with the likes of Peterson. Peterson has seen and dealt with and diagnosed every kind of human being and his tendency must be to automatically dissect every word and phrase, every twitch and sentence structure, hopefully objectively, but he is doing it. You might ask him for a full diagnosis and report afterwards :)

You probably do the same assessing given your profession and experience. I know I do it, its just my nature and an extension of what I do, read people. And most are on autopilot and are what I call “Immersed” in their own subjective realty most of the time. Some, all of the time. Its just automatic. But Peterson does it on a whole other level, and to understand who and what he is at the beginning of a conversation must be an interesting exercise depending on how secure or insecure one is. McConaughey seems a pretty confident and secure person IMO and he appears to be developing his public persona in a more full and complete way for specific reasons other than PR, and I assume it has to do with politics on some level.)