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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2021 02:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David--
you&#039;re thinking of Mars....

C-SPAN: 
&quot;Buzz Aldrin Reveals Existence of.....&quot;
https://youtu.be/bDIXvpjnRws
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8211;<br />
you&#8217;re thinking of Mars&#8230;.</p>
<p>C-SPAN:<br />
&#8220;Buzz Aldrin Reveals Existence of&#8230;..&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/bDIXvpjnRws" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/bDIXvpjnRws</a><br />
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2021 01:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-state-of-the-global-rocket-industry-in-the-21st-century/#comment-1102861&quot;&gt;David M. Cook&lt;/a&gt;.

David M. Cook: I will be blunt. There are no &quot;alien artifacts&quot; on the Moon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-state-of-the-global-rocket-industry-in-the-21st-century/#comment-1102861">David M. Cook</a>.</p>
<p>David M. Cook: I will be blunt. There are no &#8220;alien artifacts&#8221; on the Moon.</p>
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		By: David M. Cook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David M. Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2021 00:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert, I know this is kinda &quot;out there&quot; but do you think the Chinese are trying to get to some of the apparent &quot;alien artifacts&quot; on the Moon before anyone else does?  This may give them some really advanced technology to copy &#038; reverse engineer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I know this is kinda &#8220;out there&#8221; but do you think the Chinese are trying to get to some of the apparent &#8220;alien artifacts&#8221; on the Moon before anyone else does?  This may give them some really advanced technology to copy &amp; reverse engineer.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 03:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lee Stevenson, 
You mentioned India&#039;s recent attempt to land on the Moon.  They also had an orbiter that has been doing science at the Moon.  Scott Manley has a new video describing the imagery coming from India&#039;s Chandrayaan 2 orbiter:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hy8iWu11io (10 minutes)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Stevenson,<br />
You mentioned India&#8217;s recent attempt to land on the Moon.  They also had an orbiter that has been doing science at the Moon.  Scott Manley has a new video describing the imagery coming from India&#8217;s Chandrayaan 2 orbiter:  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hy8iWu11io" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hy8iWu11io</a> (10 minutes)</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 01:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lee Stevenson, 
Those are some interesting nonsequiturs and other conclusions that you have just for having a lower bar for what is &quot;stunning&quot; than I have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Stevenson,<br />
Those are some interesting nonsequiturs and other conclusions that you have just for having a lower bar for what is &#8220;stunning&#8221; than I have.</p>
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		By: Lee Stevenson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Stevenson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Edward, if I said day will follow night I&#039;m sure you would point out that it&#039;s actually night that follows day!
    Scaled Composites achievement was remarkable, I&#039;ll grant you that. It&#039;s a shame nothing else remarkable has occurred from them since. I can only presume your refusal to accept that the Chinese space program is impressive is either you are unwilling to accept a Communist country can achieve anything impressive, or you just like to disagree with anything I say. The fact remains that China has achieved remarkable success with their space program. Admittedly it has been at a slow and steady pace, but their (public) fails have been few, and their exploration of the moons far side IS genuinely remarkable. Remember India and Israel both failed recently to nail landings on the &quot;easy&quot; side, even with US help. I also reiterate my comment that unless private enterprise steps up, I genuinely believe there will be Chinese boots on the moon next. Whatever or however you choose to wrangle the facts, the simple fact is they have just proved they have the ability to nail a launch, Luna landing, Luna launch, Luna orbital docking and a safe return to Earth. Any way you look at it, that&#039;s a pretty damn impressive achievement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Edward, if I said day will follow night I&#8217;m sure you would point out that it&#8217;s actually night that follows day!<br />
    Scaled Composites achievement was remarkable, I&#8217;ll grant you that. It&#8217;s a shame nothing else remarkable has occurred from them since. I can only presume your refusal to accept that the Chinese space program is impressive is either you are unwilling to accept a Communist country can achieve anything impressive, or you just like to disagree with anything I say. The fact remains that China has achieved remarkable success with their space program. Admittedly it has been at a slow and steady pace, but their (public) fails have been few, and their exploration of the moons far side IS genuinely remarkable. Remember India and Israel both failed recently to nail landings on the &#8220;easy&#8221; side, even with US help. I also reiterate my comment that unless private enterprise steps up, I genuinely believe there will be Chinese boots on the moon next. Whatever or however you choose to wrangle the facts, the simple fact is they have just proved they have the ability to nail a launch, Luna landing, Luna launch, Luna orbital docking and a safe return to Earth. Any way you look at it, that&#8217;s a pretty damn impressive achievement.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 00:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lee Stevenson, 
You wrote: &quot;&lt;i&gt;but the Chinese are the first to perform this combination in one mission, and on their first attempt it’s a pretty damn impressive mission.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

Apparently, we have different bar heights for what is stunning.  

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Even if a lot of their tech is “borrowed”, given how few test missions they have launched, the speed of advance in the Chinese space program is both stunning and worrying.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

Shouldn&#039;t they be doing better if they are borrowing technology?  The U.S. and the Soviet Union were more impressive in the 1960s, and they had to invent their own technologies.  

I suppose if we compared the Chinese to Japan, India, or Europe, they may seem impressive, but those countries have their own priorities, so I&#039;m going to keep considering the bar for &quot;stunning&quot; as somewhat higher.  When a private company does or surpasses what once or now takes the resources of an entire nation, &lt;i&gt;that &lt;/i&gt;is impressive.  

Setting up the X-Prize without having the prize money or an idea as to how to achieve it: bold.  Competing for the X-Prize by purring someone into space: impressive.  Using the same spacecraft to do the same flight twice within two weeks: surpasses what then took the resources of an entire nation.  &lt;i&gt;That &lt;/i&gt;is stunning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Stevenson,<br />
You wrote: &#8220;<i>but the Chinese are the first to perform this combination in one mission, and on their first attempt it’s a pretty damn impressive mission.</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>Apparently, we have different bar heights for what is stunning.  </p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Even if a lot of their tech is “borrowed”, given how few test missions they have launched, the speed of advance in the Chinese space program is both stunning and worrying.</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t they be doing better if they are borrowing technology?  The U.S. and the Soviet Union were more impressive in the 1960s, and they had to invent their own technologies.  </p>
<p>I suppose if we compared the Chinese to Japan, India, or Europe, they may seem impressive, but those countries have their own priorities, so I&#8217;m going to keep considering the bar for &#8220;stunning&#8221; as somewhat higher.  When a private company does or surpasses what once or now takes the resources of an entire nation, <i>that </i>is impressive.  </p>
<p>Setting up the X-Prize without having the prize money or an idea as to how to achieve it: bold.  Competing for the X-Prize by purring someone into space: impressive.  Using the same spacecraft to do the same flight twice within two weeks: surpasses what then took the resources of an entire nation.  <i>That </i>is stunning.</p>
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		By: Lee Stevenson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Stevenson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Edward, you are of course correct that all these manoeuvres have been performed individually, but the Chinese are the first to perform this combination in one mission, and on their first attempt it&#039;s a pretty damn impressive mission. Even if a lot of their tech is &quot;borrowed&quot;, given how few test missions they have launched, the speed of advance in the Chinese space program is both stunning and worrying. I won&#039;t be at all shocked to see a manned mission to the moon years before NASA or the ESA ( the later there was a joke! :-)
     The Chinese, for all their faults, are better than the west at long term planning, and if the moon or asteroids have any sort of viable value, we can all bet they have their eyes on the prize.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Edward, you are of course correct that all these manoeuvres have been performed individually, but the Chinese are the first to perform this combination in one mission, and on their first attempt it&#8217;s a pretty damn impressive mission. Even if a lot of their tech is &#8220;borrowed&#8221;, given how few test missions they have launched, the speed of advance in the Chinese space program is both stunning and worrying. I won&#8217;t be at all shocked to see a manned mission to the moon years before NASA or the ESA ( the later there was a joke! :-)<br />
     The Chinese, for all their faults, are better than the west at long term planning, and if the moon or asteroids have any sort of viable value, we can all bet they have their eyes on the prize.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 01:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lee Stevenson wrote: &quot;&lt;i&gt;perhaps private enterprise will keep up, but that sample return mission from the moon they just performed was technologically stunning!&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

I keep hearing this, but it is the same technology that the U.S., Soviet Union, and Russia have been practicing for decades.  Europe and Japan have even performed automated docking.  Last winter, a private U.S. company docked its own satellite to another satellite that hadn&#039;t even been designed for docking, allowing the receiving satellite to extend its life 30% longer than the design life.  Somehow, that wasn&#039;t impressive but the Chinese doing something that others have done is stunning.  

It is an excellent use of technology, and it appears to have been done efficiently as well as effectively.  We should soon have new data points from yet another location on the Moon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Stevenson wrote: &#8220;<i>perhaps private enterprise will keep up, but that sample return mission from the moon they just performed was technologically stunning!</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>I keep hearing this, but it is the same technology that the U.S., Soviet Union, and Russia have been practicing for decades.  Europe and Japan have even performed automated docking.  Last winter, a private U.S. company docked its own satellite to another satellite that hadn&#8217;t even been designed for docking, allowing the receiving satellite to extend its life 30% longer than the design life.  Somehow, that wasn&#8217;t impressive but the Chinese doing something that others have done is stunning.  </p>
<p>It is an excellent use of technology, and it appears to have been done efficiently as well as effectively.  We should soon have new data points from yet another location on the Moon.</p>
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		By: Lee Stevenson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Stevenson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2021 13:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this insightful post Bob! I have a few comments as an interested outsider ( I don&#039;t see Sweden putting anything in orbit anytime soon!). We all know that I&#039;m a bit of a lefty, but the success of SpaceX and the competition now arising in the launch business proves that some capitalism can work. I&#039;ve never been a Communist, I&#039;m just an advocate for social safety nets. Continuing in the vein of the left, I think your worries regarding the end of society are overblown. I have mentioned before that my 15 year old Son, his girlfriend and all their peer group are sick of all the PC bullcrap, and tease each other just like me and my friends used to 35 years ago. No one goes home crying, no one needs a therapist, they make fun of &quot;Karen&#039;s&quot;, fun of each other, then go about their day. The pendulum of what is considered offensive is about to swing the other way. It starts with the kids, but will permeate thru society... And last about 60 years by my calculations. Finally, speaking of communism, the fact that the Chinese are able to build 10 year plans and longer is something that the US must address, perhaps private enterprise will keep up, but that sample return mission from the moon they just performed was technologically stunning! Off to the moon, grab a bite, autonomous docking, and back to earth in a week or so. Bob, you have mentioned this several times, but their eyes are are firmly fixed on the best real estate on the moon, and by your own philosophy, it&#039;s first come, first served. Sites with both permanent sunlight and permanent shadow are relatively rare, so it would be wise for the US government to plant a flag, of factory, or at least a base or 2 before the real land grab begins. ( Even I would prefer to see the US mining the moon before the Chinese!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this insightful post Bob! I have a few comments as an interested outsider ( I don&#8217;t see Sweden putting anything in orbit anytime soon!). We all know that I&#8217;m a bit of a lefty, but the success of SpaceX and the competition now arising in the launch business proves that some capitalism can work. I&#8217;ve never been a Communist, I&#8217;m just an advocate for social safety nets. Continuing in the vein of the left, I think your worries regarding the end of society are overblown. I have mentioned before that my 15 year old Son, his girlfriend and all their peer group are sick of all the PC bullcrap, and tease each other just like me and my friends used to 35 years ago. No one goes home crying, no one needs a therapist, they make fun of &#8220;Karen&#8217;s&#8221;, fun of each other, then go about their day. The pendulum of what is considered offensive is about to swing the other way. It starts with the kids, but will permeate thru society&#8230; And last about 60 years by my calculations. Finally, speaking of communism, the fact that the Chinese are able to build 10 year plans and longer is something that the US must address, perhaps private enterprise will keep up, but that sample return mission from the moon they just performed was technologically stunning! Off to the moon, grab a bite, autonomous docking, and back to earth in a week or so. Bob, you have mentioned this several times, but their eyes are are firmly fixed on the best real estate on the moon, and by your own philosophy, it&#8217;s first come, first served. Sites with both permanent sunlight and permanent shadow are relatively rare, so it would be wise for the US government to plant a flag, of factory, or at least a base or 2 before the real land grab begins. ( Even I would prefer to see the US mining the moon before the Chinese!)</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 20:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mitch S. brings up a point I mentioned a couple of years ago.  Having thought about it since, what we are trying to compare here is productivity.  

In the early days, the rockets were relatively small, compared to today, so there is generally more mass going to space these days than in the 1960s.  Robert mentioned that some satellites had short lifetimes, while these days our largest satellites tend to last more than a decade.  Perhaps the best measure of productivity is the amount of data returned from exploration or the amount of communication traffic.  

As commercial companies become more dominant, we should be able to measure the actual value of the productivity of our space assets by the amount of money that they make for their owners, as this is the value that customers have given for the use of these assets.  

In the meantime, launch is an exciting time in the life of any space asset.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitch S. brings up a point I mentioned a couple of years ago.  Having thought about it since, what we are trying to compare here is productivity.  </p>
<p>In the early days, the rockets were relatively small, compared to today, so there is generally more mass going to space these days than in the 1960s.  Robert mentioned that some satellites had short lifetimes, while these days our largest satellites tend to last more than a decade.  Perhaps the best measure of productivity is the amount of data returned from exploration or the amount of communication traffic.  </p>
<p>As commercial companies become more dominant, we should be able to measure the actual value of the productivity of our space assets by the amount of money that they make for their owners, as this is the value that customers have given for the use of these assets.  </p>
<p>In the meantime, launch is an exciting time in the life of any space asset.</p>
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		By: Mitch S.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 04:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would be interesting if there were figured for tons (or kg)  to orbit to compare to number of launches.
Number of launches is significant but if say Rocket Lab sends up 10 rockets with an average 150kg payload each, is it really twice that of Space X sending up 5 rockets with an avg 7000kg payload each?
(Or a Saturn 5 sending 40000kg to the moon?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be interesting if there were figured for tons (or kg)  to orbit to compare to number of launches.<br />
Number of launches is significant but if say Rocket Lab sends up 10 rockets with an average 150kg payload each, is it really twice that of Space X sending up 5 rockets with an avg 7000kg payload each?<br />
(Or a Saturn 5 sending 40000kg to the moon?)</p>
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		By: Rodney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 02:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob:
One of the Minotaurs is listed as suborbital so it doesn&#039;t count.  The other two are NROL 82 and NROL 174.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob:<br />
One of the Minotaurs is listed as suborbital so it doesn&#8217;t count.  The other two are NROL 82 and NROL 174.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 02:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob:

I looked in Wikipedia under Minotaur and it references Spaceflight Now for 3 Minotaurs in 2021.  Happy New Year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob:</p>
<p>I looked in Wikipedia under Minotaur and it references Spaceflight Now for 3 Minotaurs in 2021.  Happy New Year.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 00:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert, 
You may have included the first three failed Falcon 1 launches as successful orbital launches.  

Your analysis that commercial launch companies are changing the launch industry is correct.  For 2020, SpaceX has almost 1/4 of the world&#039;s orbital launches, and including Rocket Lab makes it almost 1/3 of the launches.  Although there are six additional commercial companies that expect to launch in 2021, your other posts have noted other commercial companies that are working to get into the launch business in the coming years -- some of them even in the United States.  In December, you noted a company in Germany and another in India that are working on their own launch vehicles.  

I like the point that some of the reduction of the total annual launches was due to better efficiencies.  Rather than launch short-term spy satellites, longer term satellites needed far fewer launches.  Similarly, the Ariane V launch vehicle would often launch a pair of satellites rather than a single satellite, reducing the number of launches needed to put the same hardware into space.  Starship may have a similar result on launches, since its capability will be greater than current launch vehicles.  Likewise, Rocket Lab typically takes multiple satellites to orbit, resulting in multiple missions with each launch.  

Something you did not mention is that the nature of commercial space is going to take a radical departure from the past.  So far, all manned flights have been for government agencies.  In the coming year, 2021, SpaceX is expected to take non-government astronauts on their own flight, independent of any government interests.  We have had tourists go up before, such as to the Space Station or a Senator on a Space Shuttle, but SpaceX is now in a position to move into a pure non-governmental tourist industry.  I believe that Yusaku Maezawa is still scheduled for a trip around the Moon in a few years (outside the scope of your annual evaluation, but a trend nonetheless).  This change in the use of space is currently scheduled to begin in the coming year.  

This coming decade should be an exciting time in space, as commercialization moves into the realm of exploration in addition to the traditional communications industry and the new commercial launch industry.  Commercial space stations should introduce products that can only be made in space, a long-promised benefit of going to space that governments did not do for us.  In a couple of years you may even start a second report that covers the commercialization of space, not just the launch industry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
You may have included the first three failed Falcon 1 launches as successful orbital launches.  </p>
<p>Your analysis that commercial launch companies are changing the launch industry is correct.  For 2020, SpaceX has almost 1/4 of the world&#8217;s orbital launches, and including Rocket Lab makes it almost 1/3 of the launches.  Although there are six additional commercial companies that expect to launch in 2021, your other posts have noted other commercial companies that are working to get into the launch business in the coming years &#8212; some of them even in the United States.  In December, you noted a company in Germany and another in India that are working on their own launch vehicles.  </p>
<p>I like the point that some of the reduction of the total annual launches was due to better efficiencies.  Rather than launch short-term spy satellites, longer term satellites needed far fewer launches.  Similarly, the Ariane V launch vehicle would often launch a pair of satellites rather than a single satellite, reducing the number of launches needed to put the same hardware into space.  Starship may have a similar result on launches, since its capability will be greater than current launch vehicles.  Likewise, Rocket Lab typically takes multiple satellites to orbit, resulting in multiple missions with each launch.  </p>
<p>Something you did not mention is that the nature of commercial space is going to take a radical departure from the past.  So far, all manned flights have been for government agencies.  In the coming year, 2021, SpaceX is expected to take non-government astronauts on their own flight, independent of any government interests.  We have had tourists go up before, such as to the Space Station or a Senator on a Space Shuttle, but SpaceX is now in a position to move into a pure non-governmental tourist industry.  I believe that Yusaku Maezawa is still scheduled for a trip around the Moon in a few years (outside the scope of your annual evaluation, but a trend nonetheless).  This change in the use of space is currently scheduled to begin in the coming year.  </p>
<p>This coming decade should be an exciting time in space, as commercialization moves into the realm of exploration in addition to the traditional communications industry and the new commercial launch industry.  Commercial space stations should introduce products that can only be made in space, a long-promised benefit of going to space that governments did not do for us.  In a couple of years you may even start a second report that covers the commercialization of space, not just the launch industry.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-state-of-the-global-rocket-industry-in-the-21st-century/#comment-1100990&quot;&gt;Robert Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt;.

Rodney: I just checked again, and on both sites only one Minotaur launch is listed.

What is your source?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-state-of-the-global-rocket-industry-in-the-21st-century/#comment-1100990">Robert Zimmerman</a>.</p>
<p>Rodney: I just checked again, and on both sites only one Minotaur launch is listed.</p>
<p>What is your source?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-state-of-the-global-rocket-industry-in-the-21st-century/#comment-1100988&quot;&gt;Rodney&lt;/a&gt;.

Rodney: I am sure you are correct. In counting the launches listed at both &lt;a href=&quot;https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;SpaceflightNow&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rocketlaunch.live/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;RocketLaunch.live&lt;/a&gt; I must have missed two of the Minotaur launches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-state-of-the-global-rocket-industry-in-the-21st-century/#comment-1100988">Rodney</a>.</p>
<p>Rodney: I am sure you are correct. In counting the launches listed at both <a href="https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/" rel="nofollow ugc">SpaceflightNow</a> and <a href="https://www.rocketlaunch.live/" rel="nofollow ugc">RocketLaunch.live</a> I must have missed two of the Minotaur launches.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob
Correct if I&#039;m wrong, but I see 1 Antares/Cygnus launch and 3 Minotaurs for NG in 2021.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob<br />
Correct if I&#8217;m wrong, but I see 1 Antares/Cygnus launch and 3 Minotaurs for NG in 2021.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice summary of 2020 launches and state of the launch industry.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is my first post,even thou I&#039;ve been reading your webpage and listen to you on the radio, for many years.
I  would like to say , thank you for everything you have said and written. 
Long may it continue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first post,even thou I&#8217;ve been reading your webpage and listen to you on the radio, for many years.<br />
I  would like to say , thank you for everything you have said and written.<br />
Long may it continue.</p>
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