Comments on: The sun continues its ramp down

By: Robert Zimmerman

Robert Zimmerman — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:41:57 +0000

In reply to Cotour. The jury is still out on this theory, despite what was written in your second link.

By: Cotour

Cotour — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:05:47 +0000

A 2009 paper on Cosmic Rays (great graphics) and cloud formation and a 20014 article that says that it has been dis-proven that Cosmic Rays have little if any effects.

http://indico.cern.ch/event/52576/material/slides/0

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/science/2014/06/29/cosmic-rays-dont-affect-cloud-making-data-show.html

Humm.

By: Robert Zimmerman

Robert Zimmerman — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:33:46 +0000

In reply to Cotour. You wrote:

So that would mean there is less of a solar magnetic field and that would cause more cosmic rays to fall upon the earth which would cause more cloud cover in the atmosphere and in turn cause the climate to cool. [emphasis mine]

Be aware that this idea is not yet proven. It is only a theory, which some evidence from CERN seems to support. However, even the scientists who gathered that evidence admit that the result is very preliminary (an admission that demonstrates they are good scientists). As for CO2, the geological record is very clear: CO2 increases have always followed climate temperature increases, which of course strongly suggests that it wasn't the CO2 that was causing the temperature changes.

By: Cotour

Cotour — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 01:41:06 +0000

And it begins?

http://www.local2.ca/ssm/viewarticle.php?id=15416

By: Cotour

Cotour — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 01:37:43 +0000

So that would mean there is less of a solar magnetic field and that would cause more cosmic rays to fall upon the earth which would cause more cloud cover in the atmosphere and in turn cause the climate to cool.

Where does that leave CO2?

Is CO2 following temperature or leading temperature? It will be interesting to see in real time the effects of cosmic rays on the climate.

Q: When will the solar cycle begin to pick up which will cause an increased solar magnetic field and begin to block the cosmic rays which will cause fewer clouds in the atmosphere which will cause the climate to warm?