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		By: Jwing		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 01:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks...love listening to you on John Batchelor&#039;s Show!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230;love listening to you on John Batchelor&#8217;s Show!</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-sun-turns/#comment-964740&quot;&gt;Jwing&lt;/a&gt;.

Jwing: In a word, no. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that suggests a link to climate variations, such as the Little Ice Age in the 1600s corresponding to the last grand minimum of no sunspots, as well as the Medieval Warm Period corresponding to a period of suspected high sunspot activity around the year 1000. Our knowledge of the Sun&#039;s brightness variations however remains somewhat limited, and so we do not know yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-sun-turns/#comment-964740">Jwing</a>.</p>
<p>Jwing: In a word, no. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that suggests a link to climate variations, such as the Little Ice Age in the 1600s corresponding to the last grand minimum of no sunspots, as well as the Medieval Warm Period corresponding to a period of suspected high sunspot activity around the year 1000. Our knowledge of the Sun&#8217;s brightness variations however remains somewhat limited, and so we do not know yet.</p>
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		By: Jwing		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confused....is there any reliable scientific evidence showing any causation relating sunspots, their number/periodicity to actual measurable effects of the earth&#039;s climate or weather patterns, the ocean temperatures, et al?????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused&#8230;.is there any reliable scientific evidence showing any causation relating sunspots, their number/periodicity to actual measurable effects of the earth&#8217;s climate or weather patterns, the ocean temperatures, et al?????</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-sun-turns/#comment-963759&quot;&gt;LocalFluff&lt;/a&gt;.

LocalFluff: The sunspot number isn&#039;t the equivalent of a count of actual sunspots. See for example &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spaceweather.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this page:&lt;/a&gt; The sunspot count for today is 22, even though only 2 sunspots are visible on the face of the Sun.

Solar scientists use a complex algorithm to calculate the number based on the number of spots visible. Don&#039;t ask me to explain it, but it really doesn&#039;t matter, as the system has been used pretty much consistently for more than a century.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-sun-turns/#comment-963759">LocalFluff</a>.</p>
<p>LocalFluff: The sunspot number isn&#8217;t the equivalent of a count of actual sunspots. See for example <a href="http://www.spaceweather.com/" rel="nofollow">this page:</a> The sunspot count for today is 22, even though only 2 sunspots are visible on the face of the Sun.</p>
<p>Solar scientists use a complex algorithm to calculate the number based on the number of spots visible. Don&#8217;t ask me to explain it, but it really doesn&#8217;t matter, as the system has been used pretty much consistently for more than a century.</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So there were suddenly 75 sunspots two weeks ago? As many as during the three year long average of the last cycle maximum. I&#039;d be surprised if they vary that much so quickly. Some unit or something must be misunderstood here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there were suddenly 75 sunspots two weeks ago? As many as during the three year long average of the last cycle maximum. I&#8217;d be surprised if they vary that much so quickly. Some unit or something must be misunderstood here.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 20:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-sun-turns/#comment-963740&quot;&gt;LocalFluff&lt;/a&gt;.

LocalFluff: You appear to be misreading the graphs. The longer-term graph shows average monthly values, not the day to day sunspot numbers. The 2017 graph only covers most of January 2017 and the first week of February 2017, and shows the actual count for each day. That&#039;s why the 70 count in January on the 2017 graph does appear on the longer term graph.

In addition, the two graphs use a slightly different definition of sunspot numbers, so while their numbers might differ a little bit, they are relatively identical so that the line of the graphs when plotted for the same time period will be practically the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-sun-turns/#comment-963740">LocalFluff</a>.</p>
<p>LocalFluff: You appear to be misreading the graphs. The longer-term graph shows average monthly values, not the day to day sunspot numbers. The 2017 graph only covers most of January 2017 and the first week of February 2017, and shows the actual count for each day. That&#8217;s why the 70 count in January on the 2017 graph does appear on the longer term graph.</p>
<p>In addition, the two graphs use a slightly different definition of sunspot numbers, so while their numbers might differ a little bit, they are relatively identical so that the line of the graphs when plotted for the same time period will be practically the same.</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 20:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t get why the 2017 graph shows a peak of 70 spots while the longer-term graph shows about 20 spots on average during the last year. I doubt the day to day variation is equal to an entire 11 years cycle from top to bottom. Do they use a different definition of sunspots on those shorter time scales? The common standard is a bit archaic on purpose to maintain historical comparability of trends and levels.

The Sun&#039;s differential surface rotation, varying from 25 days at the equator to 35 days at its polar regions messes up any periodicity on a monthly time scale. So called butterfly diagrams illustrate how sunspots migrate, or are formed and ceased, systematically along their latitude, during a sunspot cycle period because of that differential rotation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get why the 2017 graph shows a peak of 70 spots while the longer-term graph shows about 20 spots on average during the last year. I doubt the day to day variation is equal to an entire 11 years cycle from top to bottom. Do they use a different definition of sunspots on those shorter time scales? The common standard is a bit archaic on purpose to maintain historical comparability of trends and levels.</p>
<p>The Sun&#8217;s differential surface rotation, varying from 25 days at the equator to 35 days at its polar regions messes up any periodicity on a monthly time scale. So called butterfly diagrams illustrate how sunspots migrate, or are formed and ceased, systematically along their latitude, during a sunspot cycle period because of that differential rotation.</p>
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