What a choice.

Stoicism and a strong mind has its place.

“Stand Up Straight, With Your Shoulders Back”
Peterson / Akira 2018
https://youtu.be/dX0mcPfuCUQ
4:32

David: What you and those on the left have to deal with is that people like me are beginning to see you in the way I wrote, because you and those on the left seem incapable of condemning violence, censorship, blacklisting, and oppression from your allies. All you do is come here to criticize and condemn the right, Republicans, and conservatives.

When I see you begin applying the same standard to the storm-troopers and brown-shirted thugs of Antifa, BLM, and others, all of whom have been wielded as violent tools of the Democratic Party and the left for the past ten months in order to gain power illegitimately, then I might consider rethinking my impression of you.

Right now, my opinion holds. You have done nothing to change my mind, other than beg me to do so.

You might want to reread my essay, Genocide is coming to America. You remind me of those “good” Germans who consistently refused to listen to Jews as they were being oppressed.

You always say you welcome all opinions provided they follow your rules. After multiple times of you holding me out as an example of politeness regardless the disagreement we have and then turn on a dime and compare my politeness to that of a nazi concentration camp guard saying hello to people being led to their death is beyond the pale.

As I said in my last post to you, if you don’t want me to write here anymore, then say so along with the rule(s) you allege I violated.

I will stop by one last time sometime down the road to see if you have anything to say. I hope so. As I told you on at least one occasion, this was the first public facing forum I posted to on my own time in many years because I thought the level of comments reflected a great level of thoughtful posts by many folks reflecting the quality of this site you created. That, and I thought our common desire to respect privacy is important.

I have and always will wish you and yours all that is best in life.

Thank you for the supportive words. FYI, I’m not a D. Even worse, I’m a conservative who saw Trump for what he is from the jump. I’m someone for whom science and the pursuit of knowledge is a guiding star. Puts me at odds with my party on certain challenges the nation and world face. Climate and environmental issues being number one…

That and I’ve never believed one party always has all the answers to all the problems all the time. And in Trump’s GOP, that makes me unwelcome in some gatherings from time to time I guess.

Good health to you and yours,

Disappointing doesn’t quite sum up my thoughts about your lies and despicable comparison directed at and about me. Your anger seems to be overwhelming your decency of late. Or are you now going to claim that the multiple times in comments to others you’ve specifically mentioned me as an example of respectful back and forth even on matters where you and I disagree not true?

I remember you suspended someone here not too long ago for stating and refusing to retract lies about you.

You said I’m a Democrat. I’ve said here before I’m not, never have been. The fact you continue to call me one is a falsehood. Again, I’m a Life long Conservative.

Somehow, you claim I’m attempting to limit your ability to publish or support the efforts of others in doing so. That’s a LIE. If I didn’t respect what you do here, I wouldn’t bother commenting occasionally and surely wouldn’t compliment you. I don’t know what others are trying to do to you, I wouldn’t participate in such a thing.

You said I’ve had no problem with months of riots, looting, and murder by Antifa and some members of BLM. THAT IS A BALD FACE LIE. You’ll not find one word I’ve written here supporting or defending criminal behavior by those that occurred this past summer or anytime for that matter. Even with the actions that occurred at the Capital, I made a point of separating the criminals inside the building and those who assaulted policemen with those outside who peacefully protested as their rights allow.

Comparing my politeness to a nazi guard at a concentration camp is outrageously untrue and defamatory. I ask you to please not do that again.

If you wish for me to not visit your site all you have to do is say so along with the rule(s) you allege I’m violating with my occasional commentary.

I do hope things go well for you this new year.

“These statements are completely false and have no basis in fact. Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately and that there is simply no evidence to support these claims.

It was wrong for us to publish these false statements. We apologize to Dominion for all of the harm this caused them and their employees. We also apologize to our readers for abandoning 9 journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion’s track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error. ”

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/statement.html

Politeness and civility just prove you are a lib psyop to the paranoid cranks on this board. It’s a sad and demoralizing place to debate.

It’s true that I don’t want you to publish bad information about covid and election fraud. It’s very sad that you choose to host debunked and dangerous ideas while folks sympathetic to your views storm the capitol, and the US suffers 4k deaths from covid every day.

I tried to engage you specifically on the data scientist voter fraud video and you vanished. I took the time to look-up the GA data, plug it into a spreadsheet and figure-out voting percentages in one GA county – Dekalb I think. No one would engage me about the findings in good faith. While this one point does not debunk all of the fraud claims, I see no reason to press further if you cannot concede even the most glaring errors in the myriad fraud claims.

So mkent thinks that we could possibly include deaths associated with flus or pneumonia the same way that we currently include for Wuhan deaths. What foolish, silly, unthought-out remarks he is prone to make. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that doing math on corrupted and bad data only results in corrupted and bad conclusions, and mkent excels at bad conclusions.

“Are you seriously suggesting we make national policy based on the three people you know?”

It is better than the corrupted data our national policy is based upon now.

“In other words, we’re losing more Americans to Covid-19…”

Actually, we don’t know how many we are losing to Wuhan, because the data is corrupted with “with,” “suspected,” and “assumed” losses and enhanced by a system with financial incentive to include as many deaths associated with Wuhan as possible. This is an excellent way to corrupt data, and it gives us a poor look at reality, because those who died of regular flu and pneumonia as well as other causes are included in the now-inflated Wuhan numbers. mkent makes bad decisions based upon this bad data.

“As I pointed out to janyuary”

Of course, I have been pointing out real facts to the non-rocket-scientist mkent for months, but he just can’t quite grasp the concept, or the reality, and continues to live in his fantasy world of Lysenkoism. Our current policies protect the least vulnerable rather than the most vulnerable, and result in poverty and malnutrition. To mkent, this is good policy? The World Health Organization lives closer to reality and is now begging governments to end their horrendous overreactions to Wuhan in order to save hundreds of millions from poverty-induced starvation.

janyuary,
I had such hope that you had an answer, but your first two suggestions sound like they do what the Democrats want: blame Republicans and move forward to the future of progressivism. Liberty was in the past, and we need to turn this ship-of-state around — away from tyranny. I’m still looking for answers to “what to do now” rather than what to not do.

Meanwhile:
They tell us that we should live every day to its fullest, but for ten months I have been unable to live life at all.

We used to have hope that this too shall pass, but only time and our lives are passing.

Welcome to Obama’s America, land of the formerly free.

Jeff Fauva wrote, “I would like you to continue to publish freely.”

Forgive me but I simply don’t believe you. Your side is clearly demonstrating repeatedly that it does not want a free exchange of ideas. Blacklists and censorship appears the progressive mode of debate.

You yourself have made it eminently obvious that any investigation into the election fraud allegations is “delusional” in your mind.

Say what you want but your credibility is nil.

I would like you to continue to publish freely. Some folks who can’t move-on from the election loss should understand that incitement to violence is not protected speech. Rather than curse word policing, you should consider penalizing folks who suggest violent means to achieve their political cause.

And Progressivism is based in an intellectually-dishonest belief – that “a little intellectual elite in a far-off capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves”. That would require our “leaders” to be functionally OMNISCIENT, because to micromanage our lives while still respecting our rights requires them to fully understand EACH and EVERY INDIVIDUAL – not just the “average citizen”.

It is Progressives who are obsessed with skin color and economic class, in the assignation of “privileged” vs. “victim” status, who have done more to keep people of color down than the KKK could ever dream of … by lying to them continually about their responsibilities AND capabilities.

It is Progressives who tout SCIENCE!, but lack the scientific rigor to actually understand problems such that their “solutions” aren’t counterproductive in a manner reminiscent of a bull in a china shop … that is, if they actually believe there is a problem AT ALL, which their lack of support for nuclear power and teleconferencing (pre-COVID) as a response to “climate change” raises the question.

It is Progressives who created the modern version of “cancel culture”, expressed with a fundamentalist zeal that makes fire-and-brimstone Baptists look like loose-topped libertines out for beads at Mardi Gras.

All because you believe you Know Better – and never question that. NEVER.

Progressives are EVERYTHING they decry.

Jeff Fauva: Yup, we are pretty bad, aren’t we? Whaddya think, maybe we should be banned or shut down for our evil ways? What about a government commission to approve my posts or any comments here before publication? Think that would help?

Just asking.

Welcome to the wasp’s nest of deluded R’s who can’t take an L, who cloak their childishness and authoritarianism in patriotism and abandon civility and reason at the slightest challenge to their delusions.

Robert – I hope your brother in arms who stormed the captial wearing a “camp auschwitz” shirt is brought to justice.

Politics and the English Language
George Orwell 1946
https://youtu.be/fBu0yPaGpsU
35:44

And if you ask me, one of those two most important commandments on which all the prophecies hang, of loving/treating your neighbor as you would love/be treated yourself, is being broken wide open BY CHRISTIANS and this is the consequence, as regards this C19 concept of shifting responsibility for health from the individual to the state.

We may need to restore the principles of the Constitution and we certainly require a religious revival, but there is only one direction that matters today: forward.

This truth is also self-evident: When one yearns to return to yesteryear, one is always looking behind, missing what’s in front, and running into trouble.

Those with their eyes turned to the future, have a better chance of embracing it on their terms.

Please remember and respect that restoring is totally different than returning, but restoration means nothing without a future to apply it to. There is enormous danger in seeking to apply it to a return of the past. We bring the Constitution forward with us, and leave the political nomenclature divisive baggage, psychological tricks of language, behind and start with fresh lexicon. The principles are hideously consistent but language is hideously dynamic. Read popular novels in standard English published 120 years ago for proof.

Language has been and is being used powerfully to manipulate people into doing the opposite of what they intend. I am waking up to it.

Language is dynamic but the concepts it describes are fixed, including those in Constitution.

Ritchie The Riveter: Yup.

I see the most significant factor to consider in building an effective opposition movement to Leftist fundamentalism, is what will actually unite us … without shooting ourselves in the foot. We can’t over-complicate this, or expect the movement to carry every piece of baggage we hold dear or else be worthless.

We need to bring this back to the most basic principles – similar to how the Bible contains two verses upon which, according to the Author, hang all of the Law and the Prophets. Every position advocated by the movement must be justified by its conformity to these few, simple principles – and no position can work against them, no matter how much we might consider the position to be good.

We need to be hideously consistent. And bring this back, is the proper description … for what I quote below is the known, fundamental operating principle of a legitimate government:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

Not just any powers that sound good to us, but just powers … powers that do not work against the reason government is instituted: to secure these rights.

When strictly respected, this sets limits upon our government operatives in their ability to reach into our lives – to “first, do no harm” as Hippocrates put it.

It neutralizes identity politics. It is respectful of all spiritual worldviews that are compatible with it, instead of giving one faith (that happens to see its gods in their mirrors) exclusive access to our institutions for its spread.

And strict allegiance to it maximizes the amount of distributed intellect applied to our problem-solving processes – engaging millions of people with common sense and proximity-informed insight that a “little intellectual elite in a far-off capital” CAN’T possess – by incentivizing the responsible exercise of individual initiative instead of expecting government to solve one’s problems FOR them and therefore submitting to its operatives.

This is the foundation upon which, in my humble opinion, we rebuild this nation. Nothing more, nothing less.

It’s a real comfort to read that coming from you because “great minds think alike.” I never thought I had a particularly great mind, but when I see my thoughts echoed in the writing of great minds, then I am humbled and reassured.

In my circles, I have only one other patriot friend who is warning that the window for effective, peaceful resistance is rapidly shrinking. We tell this to people determined to be nice and polite and never rude, in vain. They would rather be enslaved then thought to be mean spirited.
The longer we wait to avoid hurting feelings, the bloodier it will be.

Stop what spread?

We need to:

1. Stop blaming Obama and Democrats for something Republicans and conservatives bear equal responsibility for causing by allowing their primary system to be so thwarted that only the most left-leaning big government Republicans could “win.”

2 Start thinking in terms of moving forward to the future — progress — and stop thinking in terms of returning to the past.

3. Understand that thinking in terms of “stopping the spread” of a wildly exaggerated “threat” is going along with the whole disgusting theater of “justified” tyranny. Stop what spread? The spread of something that “ravishes” by leaving 99.9plus percent of its “victims” alive and well.

As long as those three things are ignored or rationalized away, expect to keep losing liberty to C19.

Janyuary: I always think of the rebels in the Warsaw Ghetto. They resisted, but they waited too long to do so, so it was in vain. The sooner the better, I say. More chance of victory.

Sadly, there has been no resistance for decades, and we are quickly reaching the Warsaw Ghetto stage.

She’d have walked right in those showers expecting shampoo and towels to be waiting. It has been a real shock.
When this is all said and done, young people today are going to look back and hold their parents in contempt with good reason, those parents who told them “It’s not nice</i< to resist, it's just so rude!"

Where are they, David and MKent? Where are all victims who are being made ill but surviving this supposedly killer flu? WHY aren’t they apparent when in past years they were everywhere to my personal knowledge?

WHY, David and MKent? I can already predict the evasive answers slinging all kinds of statistics.

You sure could have fooled this long-time metropolis dweller who lived and worked in the heart of 12 million people during seasonal influenza for 25 years and who experienced first hand the Hong Kong flu.

Where ARE the people this horrible killer flu is supposed to be harming? They were always very plentiful in other seasonal influenzas, but so far the tiny handful of people I know who have had C19, say it was like a mild flu. As opposed to the dozens of people who experienced other influenzas and were bedridden for two weeks or me.

I will believe my lyin’ eyes and know for a fact that politicians and doctors exaggerate and manipulate by fear.

David: Right now my own ability to publish and write is being threatened by leftists like yourself, in the name of “protecting the Constitution.” So much for free speech and the first amendment from the left and people like you.

In fact, Dmeocrats like you horrify me. You had no problem with months of violent riots and looting and murders by Black Lives Matter and Antifa thugs, but one Trump rally gets a little violent (quite wrongly) and you are all ready to stamp your boot down on every conservative in the nation.

Your willful blindness and ignorance, nicely cloaked in feel-good pleasantries, brings to mind the vision of a Nazi guard at Auschwitz sincerely saying “Have a nice day!” with a smile as he guides Jews into the gas chamber.