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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2025 22:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This new diamond film could help
https://phys.org/news/2025-05-simpler-method-refines-ultrapure-diamond.html

&quot;By simplifying production and boosting sustainability, the new method could enable the development of transformative diamond-based technologies.&quot;

Another find----Intercrystals
https://phys.org/news/2025-05-intercrystals-pave-greener-electronics-quantum.html

&quot;Our discovery opens a new path for material design,&quot; said Eva Andrei, Board of Governors Professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy in the Rutgers School of Arts and Sciences and lead author of the study.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This new diamond film could help<br />
<a href="https://phys.org/news/2025-05-simpler-method-refines-ultrapure-diamond.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://phys.org/news/2025-05-simpler-method-refines-ultrapure-diamond.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;By simplifying production and boosting sustainability, the new method could enable the development of transformative diamond-based technologies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another find&#8212;-Intercrystals<br />
<a href="https://phys.org/news/2025-05-intercrystals-pave-greener-electronics-quantum.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://phys.org/news/2025-05-intercrystals-pave-greener-electronics-quantum.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Our discovery opens a new path for material design,&#8221; said Eva Andrei, Board of Governors Professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy in the Rutgers School of Arts and Sciences and lead author of the study.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 22:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-nuclear-battery-that-never-needs-charging/#comment-1087316&quot;&gt;Slicingonions&lt;/a&gt;.

Slicingonions: I have to admit I picked this story up too quickly. Normally I question such things, but this seemed too reasonable, at first look. My readers have made me very doubtful about it. I would not have linked to it with what I know now.

My one excuse is my unfailing desire to be optimistic. If this worked, the potential was staggering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-nuclear-battery-that-never-needs-charging/#comment-1087316">Slicingonions</a>.</p>
<p>Slicingonions: I have to admit I picked this story up too quickly. Normally I question such things, but this seemed too reasonable, at first look. My readers have made me very doubtful about it. I would not have linked to it with what I know now.</p>
<p>My one excuse is my unfailing desire to be optimistic. If this worked, the potential was staggering.</p>
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		By: Slicingonions		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 22:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Their California headquarters are empty office space available for lease. Linked-in profiles are new. Website links are mostly dead, Laboratories is &quot;Labratories&quot; on their site. Investment scam. Sad to see the speed at which numerous news agencies and other outlets pick up this garbage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their California headquarters are empty office space available for lease. Linked-in profiles are new. Website links are mostly dead, Laboratories is &#8220;Labratories&#8221; on their site. Investment scam. Sad to see the speed at which numerous news agencies and other outlets pick up this garbage.</p>
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		By: Gealon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gealon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2020 00:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Smells like a scam to me. Beta decay batteries have been around for years. If memory serves they used to be used in pacemakers and barely had the output of your average watch battery. There is no way they could power a car unless the car it&#039;s self was made of the things. And let&#039;s not start on heat dissipation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smells like a scam to me. Beta decay batteries have been around for years. If memory serves they used to be used in pacemakers and barely had the output of your average watch battery. There is no way they could power a car unless the car it&#8217;s self was made of the things. And let&#8217;s not start on heat dissipation.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2020 01:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve/Ed--
visited their website--- feels like a scam to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve/Ed&#8211;<br />
visited their website&#8212; feels like a scam to me.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suppose if the Zman can post this &quot;Nuclear battery&quot; &quot;Technology&quot; I will have to remind everyone of this, the ECAT.

https://youtu.be/GJz0T7lCWRg

This has been around now for several years and apparently through a phenomenon identified by Rossi it is still pumping out more energy than it uses. (?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose if the Zman can post this &#8220;Nuclear battery&#8221; &#8220;Technology&#8221; I will have to remind everyone of this, the ECAT.</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/GJz0T7lCWRg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/GJz0T7lCWRg</a></p>
<p>This has been around now for several years and apparently through a phenomenon identified by Rossi it is still pumping out more energy than it uses. (?)</p>
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		By: Steve Golson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ed, you are right. It&#039;s a scam. Their website is big on &quot;how to invest&quot; and very light on &quot;how it works.&quot;

However your calculations are a bit off. It&#039;s worse than you said: 1kg pure C14 would produce about 1W of decay energy.

If you could somehow harness all the electrons being produced by beta decay, the current is 0.022mA. A typical AA battery will produce 50mA current. So you&#039;d need 2,300 kg of your C14 &quot;batteries&quot; to equal a single AA.

And that&#039;s assuming they can produce pure C14.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, you are right. It&#8217;s a scam. Their website is big on &#8220;how to invest&#8221; and very light on &#8220;how it works.&#8221;</p>
<p>However your calculations are a bit off. It&#8217;s worse than you said: 1kg pure C14 would produce about 1W of decay energy.</p>
<p>If you could somehow harness all the electrons being produced by beta decay, the current is 0.022mA. A typical AA battery will produce 50mA current. So you&#8217;d need 2,300 kg of your C14 &#8220;batteries&#8221; to equal a single AA.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s assuming they can produce pure C14.</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ed,
Was that 4 watts/sec?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,<br />
Was that 4 watts/sec?</p>
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		By: Ed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a joke, right? Or a hoax? Maybe I messed up my calculations, but 1kg of pure C14 will produce about 4 Watts of decay energy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a joke, right? Or a hoax? Maybe I messed up my calculations, but 1kg of pure C14 will produce about 4 Watts of decay energy.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; How do you keep these batteries out of landfills? &quot;

   Are you kidding? The most expensive diamonds ever created with a half-life of thousands of years powering objects longer than humans have been walking will be worth millions Per unit. Landfill full of diamonds will not be a problem, in fact a non-exhaustible consumer products will prevent items going to the landfill. If anything, it&#039;ll provide the cheap energy from &quot;atomic sources&quot; is that we&#039;ve been promised for 70 years. Enough energy to remove and recycle all landfills on earth...
    OK, I&#039;m just dreaming. The purpose of politicians is to provide themselves with permanent importance by not solving problems. That&#039;s why Bob promotes private solutions because no government agency will purposely work themselves out of a job, but will find a way to increase their pay by increasing the size of the problem and keep it going for generations even though a solution is at hand.  If any problem is solved and their job is no longer needed, then a problem that doesn&#039;t exist will be created like global warming, or a war. 

   Galen Windsor, a nuclear engineer that pioneered the nuclear energy industry, describes political solutions to nonexistent problems with the intent of controlling the most energy dense material on earth.  Whistle blower from the VHS days.
  https://atomicinsights.com/galen-winsor-asks-who-owns-the-plutonium-how-much-is-it-worth/
 His videos are becoming hard to find being scrubbed from the Internet. He does things not thought possible with radioactive materials. He will make you question, with logic, everything you think you know about nuclear materials. 
  He also was part of the investigation into the 3 mile accident that he determined to be intentional sabotage to induce fear for the purposes of propaganda.

  Self charging batteries are only the stuff of science fiction. Light saber, die lithium batteries, ancient active space defense weapons platforms from prior civilization, zero point energy modules that power entire cities type of stuff… 
    It&#039;s hard to imagine that it might be possible in our lifetime, inexhaustible energy source will truly make the entire solar system at our fingertips. 

    The best part is they&#039;re using carbon 14 which is everywhere in nature, including a considerable amount of the carbon in your own body.
     Should someone with evil intent place a double A battery in a shotgun to force it open with kinetic energy, the shards will still be too heavy to be carried in the air and can be easily cleaned/vacuumed up. Minimal protection clothing will be needed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; How do you keep these batteries out of landfills? &#8221;</p>
<p>   Are you kidding? The most expensive diamonds ever created with a half-life of thousands of years powering objects longer than humans have been walking will be worth millions Per unit. Landfill full of diamonds will not be a problem, in fact a non-exhaustible consumer products will prevent items going to the landfill. If anything, it&#8217;ll provide the cheap energy from &#8220;atomic sources&#8221; is that we&#8217;ve been promised for 70 years. Enough energy to remove and recycle all landfills on earth&#8230;<br />
    OK, I&#8217;m just dreaming. The purpose of politicians is to provide themselves with permanent importance by not solving problems. That&#8217;s why Bob promotes private solutions because no government agency will purposely work themselves out of a job, but will find a way to increase their pay by increasing the size of the problem and keep it going for generations even though a solution is at hand.  If any problem is solved and their job is no longer needed, then a problem that doesn&#8217;t exist will be created like global warming, or a war. </p>
<p>   Galen Windsor, a nuclear engineer that pioneered the nuclear energy industry, describes political solutions to nonexistent problems with the intent of controlling the most energy dense material on earth.  Whistle blower from the VHS days.<br />
  <a href="https://atomicinsights.com/galen-winsor-asks-who-owns-the-plutonium-how-much-is-it-worth/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://atomicinsights.com/galen-winsor-asks-who-owns-the-plutonium-how-much-is-it-worth/</a><br />
 His videos are becoming hard to find being scrubbed from the Internet. He does things not thought possible with radioactive materials. He will make you question, with logic, everything you think you know about nuclear materials.<br />
  He also was part of the investigation into the 3 mile accident that he determined to be intentional sabotage to induce fear for the purposes of propaganda.</p>
<p>  Self charging batteries are only the stuff of science fiction. Light saber, die lithium batteries, ancient active space defense weapons platforms from prior civilization, zero point energy modules that power entire cities type of stuff…<br />
    It&#8217;s hard to imagine that it might be possible in our lifetime, inexhaustible energy source will truly make the entire solar system at our fingertips. </p>
<p>    The best part is they&#8217;re using carbon 14 which is everywhere in nature, including a considerable amount of the carbon in your own body.<br />
     Should someone with evil intent place a double A battery in a shotgun to force it open with kinetic energy, the shards will still be too heavy to be carried in the air and can be easily cleaned/vacuumed up. Minimal protection clothing will be needed.</p>
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		By: Dave Peters		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Peters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Atomic batteries to power. Turbines to speed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRoeTzvuI14]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atomic batteries to power. Turbines to speed!<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRoeTzvuI14" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRoeTzvuI14</a></p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So how to handle disposal is always a question.  Here is an idea to throw out - one way to address this is to look at the lead acid car battery.  We, the U.S., have been recycling lead acid batteries since 1972.  When we buy a new car battery, we pay a core charge, and return the old one to get the deposit back.  Why not apply it to this NDB as well?
Considering the supposed long life of the cell/battery and the nature of the material, there would be a huge core charge up front to motivate the user to trade in the used one after x amount of years to buy a replacement at a cheaper price.  That is one way to fight against the disposal in landfills.
I did not see it on the video, maybe I missed it, will they reprocess the old material to make new ones and dispose of the unusable material at Yucca (or Hanford or wherever) for storage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how to handle disposal is always a question.  Here is an idea to throw out &#8211; one way to address this is to look at the lead acid car battery.  We, the U.S., have been recycling lead acid batteries since 1972.  When we buy a new car battery, we pay a core charge, and return the old one to get the deposit back.  Why not apply it to this NDB as well?<br />
Considering the supposed long life of the cell/battery and the nature of the material, there would be a huge core charge up front to motivate the user to trade in the used one after x amount of years to buy a replacement at a cheaper price.  That is one way to fight against the disposal in landfills.<br />
I did not see it on the video, maybe I missed it, will they reprocess the old material to make new ones and dispose of the unusable material at Yucca (or Hanford or wherever) for storage.</p>
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		By: RNB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If only we had collapsium to plate the batteries with!  (Hat tip: H. Beam Piper.)]]></description>
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		By: jbspry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How do you keep these batteries out of landfills? 
Without a tightly controlled waste disposal/return regime in place, there will inevitably be a creeping spread of nuclear waste throughout the country as batteries are discarded, lost and deliberately damaged. 
Consider how many mercury-based light bulbs get thrown in the trash can instead of disposed of as toxic waste.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you keep these batteries out of landfills?<br />
Without a tightly controlled waste disposal/return regime in place, there will inevitably be a creeping spread of nuclear waste throughout the country as batteries are discarded, lost and deliberately damaged.<br />
Consider how many mercury-based light bulbs get thrown in the trash can instead of disposed of as toxic waste.</p>
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		By: Phill O		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 14:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a devils advocate and knowing how the left distorts facts, I can see the attacking the combustible nature of diamonds for the release of C14, a naturally occurring nuclide.  One would have to warn that these batteries may not be incinerated.

In-fact, the lefts attacks on anything nuclear is one of the reasons I got out of the field.

However, I sure like this idea!

Reprocessing of graphite really enhances the use of radio tracers in environmental and medical research.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a devils advocate and knowing how the left distorts facts, I can see the attacking the combustible nature of diamonds for the release of C14, a naturally occurring nuclide.  One would have to warn that these batteries may not be incinerated.</p>
<p>In-fact, the lefts attacks on anything nuclear is one of the reasons I got out of the field.</p>
<p>However, I sure like this idea!</p>
<p>Reprocessing of graphite really enhances the use of radio tracers in environmental and medical research.</p>
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		By: deepred		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 13:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Get the hell out of California before they make making a profit illegal. If they haven&#039;t already.]]></description>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 13:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep, I stand corrected on the RTGs, it is thermoelectric not piezoelectric, and using thermocouples not quartz.  Sorry, I do electrical engineering... I must have crystal oscillators on the brain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I stand corrected on the RTGs, it is thermoelectric not piezoelectric, and using thermocouples not quartz.  Sorry, I do electrical engineering&#8230; I must have crystal oscillators on the brain.</p>
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		By: sippin_bourbon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do not know if piezoelectrics are used in RTGs.  But thermal generators are.
They create electricity from the temperature imbalance, called the Seeback effect.

Fun description of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xY06PT5JDE
14:36
Electroboom discusses thermo electric generators.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know if piezoelectrics are used in RTGs.  But thermal generators are.<br />
They create electricity from the temperature imbalance, called the Seeback effect.</p>
<p>Fun description of them.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xY06PT5JDE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xY06PT5JDE</a><br />
14:36<br />
Electroboom discusses thermo electric generators.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised this company resides in California hoping to evade the classic phrase &quot;The state of California has determined this product can cause cancer&quot;. That leaves 56 states (hat tip Obama) to market nuke batteries. Nukbats for short.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised this company resides in California hoping to evade the classic phrase &#8220;The state of California has determined this product can cause cancer&#8221;. That leaves 56 states (hat tip Obama) to market nuke batteries. Nukbats for short.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jay- I&#039;m not a nuclear engineer but I don&#039;t see how RTGs would use piezoelectric materials.  

This is a very interesting concept and technology.  They claim any radioactive material is safely encapsulated in diamonds.  It sounds like it would be very hard to get to any dangerous material, but nothing is impossible and people will find a way.  Diamonds can cut diamonds and diamond cutters are available.   They say a bad actor couldn&#039;t get the material in a form that is useful, but all that has to happen is for the the public to get terrorized with some threats and radiation detected near a school.  

So I doubt regulators would allow it in mass produced consumer devices.  A more likely application might be replacing RTGs or, depending on how much energy it can produce, competing with something like the small fission reactor that Los Alamos developed (that I think was posted here on BtB).  

It would be great to have forever batteries though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay- I&#8217;m not a nuclear engineer but I don&#8217;t see how RTGs would use piezoelectric materials.  </p>
<p>This is a very interesting concept and technology.  They claim any radioactive material is safely encapsulated in diamonds.  It sounds like it would be very hard to get to any dangerous material, but nothing is impossible and people will find a way.  Diamonds can cut diamonds and diamond cutters are available.   They say a bad actor couldn&#8217;t get the material in a form that is useful, but all that has to happen is for the the public to get terrorized with some threats and radiation detected near a school.  </p>
<p>So I doubt regulators would allow it in mass produced consumer devices.  A more likely application might be replacing RTGs or, depending on how much energy it can produce, competing with something like the small fission reactor that Los Alamos developed (that I think was posted here on BtB).  </p>
<p>It would be great to have forever batteries though.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Talking about two subjects I like: battery technology and nuclear power.  I worked on battery technology in the late 90&#039;s before some fat lecherous hillbilly president canceled my research program.  My question is about energy density, kw-hr/kg, nothing is disclosed yet and they are still working on scalability.
They show the Tesla Roadster, I am familiar with their AC drive system in it because it was sold widely by A.C. Propulsion Systems in San Dimas CA.  I remember the earlier AC-150 system drawing over 500 amps from the batteries and I am willing to bet the AC drive Tesla uses probably draws 1000 amps in its &quot;Ludicrous&quot; speed mode.  Will the battery be big enough to supply enough high current?  That is my question.
It might be good for low current applications like cubesats, beacons, and other communication technologies.

On to the nuclear side.  As Sippin_bourbon was talking about the RTGs and he is right.  I know our RTGs use Plutonium-238 and we get the heat from alpha decay, converted to electricty by piezo-electric quartz, for a half-life of about 80 years.  The enclosure of the NDB in carbon-12 reminds me of the glass mixture that is used to encase waste.  They better make that NDB tough with a beta decay product.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about two subjects I like: battery technology and nuclear power.  I worked on battery technology in the late 90&#8217;s before some fat lecherous hillbilly president canceled my research program.  My question is about energy density, kw-hr/kg, nothing is disclosed yet and they are still working on scalability.<br />
They show the Tesla Roadster, I am familiar with their AC drive system in it because it was sold widely by A.C. Propulsion Systems in San Dimas CA.  I remember the earlier AC-150 system drawing over 500 amps from the batteries and I am willing to bet the AC drive Tesla uses probably draws 1000 amps in its &#8220;Ludicrous&#8221; speed mode.  Will the battery be big enough to supply enough high current?  That is my question.<br />
It might be good for low current applications like cubesats, beacons, and other communication technologies.</p>
<p>On to the nuclear side.  As Sippin_bourbon was talking about the RTGs and he is right.  I know our RTGs use Plutonium-238 and we get the heat from alpha decay, converted to electricty by piezo-electric quartz, for a half-life of about 80 years.  The enclosure of the NDB in carbon-12 reminds me of the glass mixture that is used to encase waste.  They better make that NDB tough with a beta decay product.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something like this could be useful in picosat technology. I keep looking for better ways to power the sats. This would work. Deep space sats would be a near perfect use case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something like this could be useful in picosat technology. I keep looking for better ways to power the sats. This would work. Deep space sats would be a near perfect use case.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeffersonian:

Heinlein also warned against putting spent fuel/radioactive waste out of reach for this very reason. You never know what might be able to be done with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffersonian:</p>
<p>Heinlein also warned against putting spent fuel/radioactive waste out of reach for this very reason. You never know what might be able to be done with it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let me be the first to say:

Shipstone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me be the first to say:</p>
<p>Shipstone.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;… a lot of difficult work will be required to make it practical and affordable.&quot;

And a lot more will be needed to get it past the &quot;Radioactive!  AAIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!&quot; crowd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;… a lot of difficult work will be required to make it practical and affordable.&#8221;</p>
<p>And a lot more will be needed to get it past the &#8220;Radioactive!  AAIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!&#8221; crowd.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I want a Tesla (or other electric car) powered by these...
Never need to stop or charge again.

(sarcasm... I can imagine the cost would be prohibitive).

Will they be better and safer than RTGs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a Tesla (or other electric car) powered by these&#8230;<br />
Never need to stop or charge again.</p>
<p>(sarcasm&#8230; I can imagine the cost would be prohibitive).</p>
<p>Will they be better and safer than RTGs?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, thanks for the article. Realistic alternative power sources fascinate me. I follow nuclear fusion news but unfortunately that, like space, is a jobs program with success always 15 years in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for the article. Realistic alternative power sources fascinate me. I follow nuclear fusion news but unfortunately that, like space, is a jobs program with success always 15 years in the future.</p>
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