Comments on: A review of the last half century of major ice calving events in Antarctica detects no trend https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/ Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:29:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: John https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536792 Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:29:33 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536792 Awwww, so the climate change killed all the penguins in the Arctic too. So sad, they were only part white. Poor bastards.

]]> By: Ray Van Dune https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536770 Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:01:16 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536770 Okay, if you melt Arctic Sea ice, do you get salt water or fresh water? If it is salt water, what do Polar Bears drink? If it is fresh water… how?

]]> By: Jeff Wright https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536719 Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:57:41 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536719 The ice in the arctic circle is already afloat. Glaciers calving off Greenland and Antarctica is what is scaring folks.

I wish China would abandon Silk Road II through Islamic countries and build oil derrick towers beneath the waves so as to have a Drake passage route. Transport that ice to where fresh water is needed.

]]> By: Col Beausabre https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536625 Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:13:07 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536625 John, Polar bears are not native to the Antarctic and there are no penguins in the Arctic

]]> By: John https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536557 Thu, 12 Dec 2024 03:19:09 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536557 It’s the loss of all the cute cuddly polar bears like Al Gore said that breaks my heart. Without the Antarctic ice the poor guys stood no chance. But now that I think about it, they were white so I guess they had it coming.

]]> By: Max https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536550 Thu, 12 Dec 2024 02:11:28 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536550 The common term for “small ice calving events” is called “melting”… Antarctica is a large continent with 3 miles of ice on top of it. The worlds largest glacier system flowing to where? The South pacific ocean we’re hundreds of feet thick ice slides into the ocean. When enough of the ice flow extends into the bottom of the ocean where it eventually begins to float, the melting accelerates but the ice is thick and will extend for miles before a large section will break off. Meanwhile the calving (melting) occurs constantly because pacific water is warm.
The graph above confirms what observations have been telling people all my life. Thank you for posting this.

As for the arctic, the only glacier systems flowing into the Arctic sea is off of Greenland. The rest of the Arctic is covered in ice seasonally and melts seasonally. It’s average winter time thickness every year is 3 to 9 feet thick. (The movies of submarines coming up through the ice is a good illustration of how thin it is)
When I lived above the Arctic Circle, I experienced 24 hour sunlight keeping the temperatures between 60 and 80° all summer. All the snow melted and ran to the rivers because of the permafrost, everything else was just a muddy mess with lots of mosquitoes.
Pilot whales live in the Arctic year around, they need air to breathe which indicates that the Arctic is never completely frozen over… Not ever.

]]> By: Blair Ivey https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536545 Thu, 12 Dec 2024 01:27:11 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536545 “The lack of an upward trend in annual maximum iceberg area could be [hypothesis] attributed to an overall increase in the number of smaller calving events, which may [hypothesis] inhibit the development of extremely large calving events. As such, small calving events pose [declarative statement] the greatest threat to the current stability of Antarctic ice shelves.”

As Tim Allen would say: “Hunhh?!”

]]> By: Chris https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536536 Thu, 12 Dec 2024 00:10:51 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536536 I seem to remember an article – perhaps on BtB – that showed an older National Geographic map with much less arctic ice than today.

]]> By: Chris https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536534 Thu, 12 Dec 2024 00:07:56 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536534 I seem to remember -perhaps on BtB an article discussing an old National Geographic map showing much less ice at the arctic circle than there is today.

]]> By: Jeff Wright https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536499 Wed, 11 Dec 2024 22:22:32 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536499 There is no giant thermostat in the sky which says it has to be 300 parts per million of CO2, or whatever.

Greens are bent on the idea that we just have to go back to pre-industrial levels–like when the Thames froze over.

No thanks.

]]> By: Steve Richter https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/a-review-of-the-last-half-century-of-major-ice-calving-events-in-antarctica-detects-no-trend/#comment-1536484 Wed, 11 Dec 2024 20:52:31 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110667#comment-1536484 wikipedia is a bit unclear as to whether the entire Antarctic ice sheet is shrinking or not. I assume that means the Antarctic is not losing ice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_ice_sheet

but they do say Artic sea ice has declined by 50% since the first satellite images.
“… The decline of sea ice in the Arctic has been accelerating during the early twenty-first century, with a decline rate of 4.7% per decade (it has declined over 50% since the first satellite records) …”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_sea_ice_decline#:~:text=Global%20warming%2C%20caused%20by%20greenhouse,since%20the%20first%20satellite%20records).

NY Times had an alarming article this week on artic tundra wildfires.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/10/climate/arctic-emissions-carbon-ice-warming.html

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