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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman, 
Sorry for starting the prediction criticism, but I wanted to make the same point that you made about commercial space doing better at advancing us in space than the government did.  

I think that Kubrick&#039;s special effects are holding up fairly well, but I do not think the lack of character development was ever a good idea.  Perhaps the best developed character is the inventor of the club.  I had to read the book in order to understand most of the rest of the movie, which does not speak well of the screenplay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Zimmerman,<br />
Sorry for starting the prediction criticism, but I wanted to make the same point that you made about commercial space doing better at advancing us in space than the government did.  </p>
<p>I think that Kubrick&#8217;s special effects are holding up fairly well, but I do not think the lack of character development was ever a good idea.  Perhaps the best developed character is the inventor of the club.  I had to read the book in order to understand most of the rest of the movie, which does not speak well of the screenplay.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2025 02:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I actually loved 2010 much better.

Leonov inspired the Earth Force ships from Babylon 5.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually loved 2010 much better.</p>
<p>Leonov inspired the Earth Force ships from Babylon 5.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Some dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 21:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[2001: the blandness of the bureaucrats and astronauts was an intentional contrast to the apes.  The specific example I read was the contrast between the plastic wrapped sandwiches in the moon-shuttle vs the raw meat of the apes. 

They NAILED Large Language Models.  It is INSANE to me how the most unrealistic feature of the movie came true literally and exactly as they had it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2001: the blandness of the bureaucrats and astronauts was an intentional contrast to the apes.  The specific example I read was the contrast between the plastic wrapped sandwiches in the moon-shuttle vs the raw meat of the apes. </p>
<p>They NAILED Large Language Models.  It is INSANE to me how the most unrealistic feature of the movie came true literally and exactly as they had it.</p>
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		By: Andi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 15:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve probably mentioned this before, but I&#039;ve gotta crow about my father, who was instrumental in the concept and development of TIROS and its successors. He took me to the launch of Tiros I - from what I remember it was quite impressive.

Those were really the days of &quot;space shots&quot; - After the launch, they didn&#039;t know if it made orbit until the ground station somewhere near Africa picked up the signal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve probably mentioned this before, but I&#8217;ve gotta crow about my father, who was instrumental in the concept and development of TIROS and its successors. He took me to the launch of Tiros I &#8211; from what I remember it was quite impressive.</p>
<p>Those were really the days of &#8220;space shots&#8221; &#8211; After the launch, they didn&#8217;t know if it made orbit until the ground station somewhere near Africa picked up the signal.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 15:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[2001: A Space Odyssey
Bunnytails Reacts, First Time watching
https://youtu.be/j94cAmomb7o
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2001: A Space Odyssey<br />
Bunnytails Reacts, First Time watching<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/j94cAmomb7o" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/j94cAmomb7o</a><br />
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 11:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A key objective for Stanley Kubrick was making a piece of art that was beautiful and arresting to look at and listen to. And in that respect, I think....he really succeeded. (In fact, I would argue that the only other Kubrick movie that succeeds so well in this way was BARRY LYNDON.) The sets and props he built, how he framed the shots, the classical music works and how he used them to soundtrack it, its artful use of silence...I think all of that really holds up. We have far better filmmaking technology now, but Kubrick&#039;s effects hold up surprisingly well for the most part.

On every other level, there has always been room for thoughtful criticism of 2001 as a film. I certainly grok the idea that the issues critics have identified ever since 1968 become more apparent on repeated viewings, once you get past the *beauty* of the thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A key objective for Stanley Kubrick was making a piece of art that was beautiful and arresting to look at and listen to. And in that respect, I think&#8230;.he really succeeded. (In fact, I would argue that the only other Kubrick movie that succeeds so well in this way was BARRY LYNDON.) The sets and props he built, how he framed the shots, the classical music works and how he used them to soundtrack it, its artful use of silence&#8230;I think all of that really holds up. We have far better filmmaking technology now, but Kubrick&#8217;s effects hold up surprisingly well for the most part.</p>
<p>On every other level, there has always been room for thoughtful criticism of 2001 as a film. I certainly grok the idea that the issues critics have identified ever since 1968 become more apparent on repeated viewings, once you get past the *beauty* of the thing.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 04:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/april-2-2025-quick-space-links/#comment-1571935&quot;&gt;Tim&lt;/a&gt;.

All: My criticism of &quot;2001&quot; is entirely related to film-making. The film is simply not that good, in terms of story or  character development. It has its moments, and yes, as Richard M notes, it is in many ways a tone poem. It however has not aged well, and that has nothing to do with how well or poorly it predicted the future.

Note that NASA plays a very small part in the film. Kubrick envisioned the future being built in space by private enterprise. He was right, but it didn&#039;t happen by 2001 because America decided in the last half of the 20th century to adopt a top-down government approach. Thus, in 2001 there were no big circular space stations, no lunar bases, no routine commercial flights into space with stewardesses.

That is coming now however. The future is very bright for those who are young now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/april-2-2025-quick-space-links/#comment-1571935">Tim</a>.</p>
<p>All: My criticism of &#8220;2001&#8221; is entirely related to film-making. The film is simply not that good, in terms of story or  character development. It has its moments, and yes, as Richard M notes, it is in many ways a tone poem. It however has not aged well, and that has nothing to do with how well or poorly it predicted the future.</p>
<p>Note that NASA plays a very small part in the film. Kubrick envisioned the future being built in space by private enterprise. He was right, but it didn&#8217;t happen by 2001 because America decided in the last half of the 20th century to adopt a top-down government approach. Thus, in 2001 there were no big circular space stations, no lunar bases, no routine commercial flights into space with stewardesses.</p>
<p>That is coming now however. The future is very bright for those who are young now.</p>
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		By: Tim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps part of what makes 2001 less compelling is that so many things that were incredibly futuristic predictions are now everyday experiences. To name some: communications satellites, video calls, real-time computer graphics for guidance and navigation, computer tablets for watching video, conversational and game playing computers, even governmental coverups. What was a compelling spectacle decades ago now is close to reality or even less impressive than what we have. I can’t wait for commercial space to catch up and go beyond the film’s vision.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps part of what makes 2001 less compelling is that so many things that were incredibly futuristic predictions are now everyday experiences. To name some: communications satellites, video calls, real-time computer graphics for guidance and navigation, computer tablets for watching video, conversational and game playing computers, even governmental coverups. What was a compelling spectacle decades ago now is close to reality or even less impressive than what we have. I can’t wait for commercial space to catch up and go beyond the film’s vision.</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 03:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Science fiction films set in the future almost always overestimate the rate of progress (or in dystopian cases, decay). I hate to ever hold that against a sci-fi-film. 

I still think a lot of 2001 holds up very well, but it&#039;s so unconventional as a dramatic property that it&#039;s always been a challenge to critique. And this only intensifies once the rush of that first experience ebbs and you start thinking about what it&#039;s actually doing -- and not doing. It can hardly be said to be *dramatic* at all, because it doesn&#039;t have a conventional plot as we normally understand it, and its characters are so undeveloped that they hardly even matter. There&#039;s barely 5,000 words of script dialogue. It&#039;s almost more of a tone poem. 

I often wonder if its real fate is at risk for being a historical road marker --  more important for how it changed the medium and the genre than its actual ability to engage in the way it was intended.  I think about how how young Gen Z friends I know think about Fritz Lang&#039;s Metropolis or Ridley Scott&#039;s Blade Runner when they first see them. They can appreciate the craft and beauty, but they do not have the impact they originally did; these films&#039; fingerprints are all over so much cinematic work (all of &#039;em with even greater technology at their disposal) in the years since that it&#039;s hard to appreciate the great leap they made.  And maybe it&#039;s easier for them to notice the weak or -- shall I say -- underdeveloped aspects.  

But 2001 certainly is important in that way: It was what made *serious* science fiction possible, thanks to its major advances in film-making craft, its realism, and the big ideas it tried to engage.  But maybe when a door is opened, it&#039;s what lies in the room beyond that ends up being more interesting than the door itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science fiction films set in the future almost always overestimate the rate of progress (or in dystopian cases, decay). I hate to ever hold that against a sci-fi-film. </p>
<p>I still think a lot of 2001 holds up very well, but it&#8217;s so unconventional as a dramatic property that it&#8217;s always been a challenge to critique. And this only intensifies once the rush of that first experience ebbs and you start thinking about what it&#8217;s actually doing &#8212; and not doing. It can hardly be said to be *dramatic* at all, because it doesn&#8217;t have a conventional plot as we normally understand it, and its characters are so undeveloped that they hardly even matter. There&#8217;s barely 5,000 words of script dialogue. It&#8217;s almost more of a tone poem. </p>
<p>I often wonder if its real fate is at risk for being a historical road marker &#8212;  more important for how it changed the medium and the genre than its actual ability to engage in the way it was intended.  I think about how how young Gen Z friends I know think about Fritz Lang&#8217;s Metropolis or Ridley Scott&#8217;s Blade Runner when they first see them. They can appreciate the craft and beauty, but they do not have the impact they originally did; these films&#8217; fingerprints are all over so much cinematic work (all of &#8217;em with even greater technology at their disposal) in the years since that it&#8217;s hard to appreciate the great leap they made.  And maybe it&#8217;s easier for them to notice the weak or &#8212; shall I say &#8212; underdeveloped aspects.  </p>
<p>But 2001 certainly is important in that way: It was what made *serious* science fiction possible, thanks to its major advances in film-making craft, its realism, and the big ideas it tried to engage.  But maybe when a door is opened, it&#8217;s what lies in the room beyond that ends up being more interesting than the door itself.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 02:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tiros Experimental Weather Satellite 
&quot;Operation Weather Watch&quot;
Astro-Electronic Products Division, RCA.
https://youtu.be/EEQnAfo_XIA
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiros Experimental Weather Satellite<br />
&#8220;Operation Weather Watch&#8221;<br />
Astro-Electronic Products Division, RCA.<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/EEQnAfo_XIA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/EEQnAfo_XIA</a><br />
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 02:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert wrote: &quot;[2001: A Space Odyssey] &lt;em&gt;has not aged well. Each time I watch it my opinion of it as a film goes down.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; 

This is not surprising.  For its length, it is one of the slowest films ever released.  The short film &lt;em&gt;Bambi Meets Godzilla, &lt;/em&gt;released a year later, is slower and has almost as much dialog and plot.  

Director Sir Alfred Hitchcock (although he was knighted after making his last film) sometimes used slow pacing and lack of action to help build suspense, such as the five minutes before his famous biplane scene.  However, after the &lt;em&gt;Odyssey &lt;/em&gt;and &lt;em&gt;Bambi &lt;/em&gt;films, directors have been reluctant to allow a slow pace in their films, cutting out all kinds of scenes and acting performances for pacing reasons.  

Another thing that ages &lt;em&gt;Odyssey &lt;/em&gt;is the small amount of progress we, in reality, made in space after man first walked on the Moon.  We will have to see how well commercial space fares thirty years after it gets its own first man on the Moon.  

Who was it here on BTB that, a couple of weeks ago, pointed out that &lt;em&gt;Odyssey &lt;/em&gt;imagined a commercialized space industry?  It looks like that film got that concept correct.  Government space: &lt;em&gt;Odyssey &lt;/em&gt;pacing.  Commercial space: &lt;em&gt;Casablanca &lt;/em&gt;pacing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert wrote: &#8220;[2001: A Space Odyssey] <em>has not aged well. Each time I watch it my opinion of it as a film goes down.</em>&#8221; </p>
<p>This is not surprising.  For its length, it is one of the slowest films ever released.  The short film <em>Bambi Meets Godzilla, </em>released a year later, is slower and has almost as much dialog and plot.  </p>
<p>Director Sir Alfred Hitchcock (although he was knighted after making his last film) sometimes used slow pacing and lack of action to help build suspense, such as the five minutes before his famous biplane scene.  However, after the <em>Odyssey </em>and <em>Bambi </em>films, directors have been reluctant to allow a slow pace in their films, cutting out all kinds of scenes and acting performances for pacing reasons.  </p>
<p>Another thing that ages <em>Odyssey </em>is the small amount of progress we, in reality, made in space after man first walked on the Moon.  We will have to see how well commercial space fares thirty years after it gets its own first man on the Moon.  </p>
<p>Who was it here on BTB that, a couple of weeks ago, pointed out that <em>Odyssey </em>imagined a commercialized space industry?  It looks like that film got that concept correct.  Government space: <em>Odyssey </em>pacing.  Commercial space: <em>Casablanca </em>pacing.</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 01:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Guess what? We have a confirmation hearing date!

It&#039;s April 9.

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/2025/4/nomination-hearing_66_2

&quot;U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, will convene a nominations hearing for Jared Isaacman, nominee to be Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and Olivia Trusty, nominee to be a Member of the Federal Communications Commission, at 10:00 AM EST on Wednesday, April 9, 2025. &quot;

This is actually a little sooner than I expected.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what? We have a confirmation hearing date!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s April 9.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.commerce.senate.gov/2025/4/nomination-hearing_66_2" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.commerce.senate.gov/2025/4/nomination-hearing_66_2</a></p>
<p>&#8220;U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, will convene a nominations hearing for Jared Isaacman, nominee to be Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and Olivia Trusty, nominee to be a Member of the Federal Communications Commission, at 10:00 AM EST on Wednesday, April 9, 2025. &#8221;</p>
<p>This is actually a little sooner than I expected.</p>
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