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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 01:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/arizona-governor-ducey-to-delay-end-of-lockdown/#comment-1079800&quot;&gt;kozanne&lt;/a&gt;.

kozanne: Thanks for the tip. Now posted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/arizona-governor-ducey-to-delay-end-of-lockdown/#comment-1079800">kozanne</a>.</p>
<p>kozanne: Thanks for the tip. Now posted.</p>
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		By: kozanne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kozanne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2020 00:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I posted the link to this article at Arizona Central today.  Ducey has locked us down for another two weeks.  Talk radio is on fire, and I suspect this is going to end badly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted the link to this article at Arizona Central today.  Ducey has locked us down for another two weeks.  Talk radio is on fire, and I suspect this is going to end badly.</p>
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		By: Ian C.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;He is angry enough to start thinking of taking up arms&lt;/em&gt;

Cool. Who is he gonna shoot? Will he livestream it? What&#039;s his twitch account?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>He is angry enough to start thinking of taking up arms</em></p>
<p>Cool. Who is he gonna shoot? Will he livestream it? What&#8217;s his twitch account?</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 04:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert wrote: &quot;&lt;i&gt;I am worried that if freedom is not restored soon so that people can start living their lives again, we shall not simply see peaceful protests, but real violence and revolution.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

I heard something similar from a friend of mine, a veteran.  He is angry enough to start thinking of taking up arms, if it comes to that.  

The frog seems to be waking up to the fact that it is being boiled.  A new meaning to the term &quot;woke.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert wrote: &#8220;<i>I am worried that if freedom is not restored soon so that people can start living their lives again, we shall not simply see peaceful protests, but real violence and revolution.</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>I heard something similar from a friend of mine, a veteran.  He is angry enough to start thinking of taking up arms, if it comes to that.  </p>
<p>The frog seems to be waking up to the fact that it is being boiled.  A new meaning to the term &#8220;woke.&#8221;</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[on a brighter note...

November 9, 1989 
&quot;Right Here, Right Now&quot;
Jesus Jones
https://youtu.be/GYPBt4fZOUI
3:17

&quot;A woman on the radio, talks about revolution,
Which already passed her by.
Bob Dylan didn&#039;t have this to sing about,
You know it feels good, to be alive....&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on a brighter note&#8230;</p>
<p>November 9, 1989<br />
&#8220;Right Here, Right Now&#8221;<br />
Jesus Jones<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/GYPBt4fZOUI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/GYPBt4fZOUI</a><br />
3:17</p>
<p>&#8220;A woman on the radio, talks about revolution,<br />
Which already passed her by.<br />
Bob Dylan didn&#8217;t have this to sing about,<br />
You know it feels good, to be alive&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[V for Vendetta: 
&quot;The Dominoes Fall&quot; clip
https://youtu.be/yrwTDfdck7I?t=188

&quot;..with so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V for Vendetta:<br />
&#8220;The Dominoes Fall&#8221; clip<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/yrwTDfdck7I?t=188" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/yrwTDfdck7I?t=188</a></p>
<p>&#8220;..with so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Last weekend, thousands of people were protesting around the state building downtown Salt Lake City. So the governor relented and opened the state parks. They were simply overwhelmed in the good weather. Here&#039;s an example just a few miles north of Zimmerman on the Arizona border.

 https://www.ksl.com/article/46745561/sand-hollow-gunlock-quail-creek-all-close-midday-saturday-as-crowds-overwhelm-state-parks

 Spring break atmosphere, no social distancing or masks. Feels good to be alive again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last weekend, thousands of people were protesting around the state building downtown Salt Lake City. So the governor relented and opened the state parks. They were simply overwhelmed in the good weather. Here&#8217;s an example just a few miles north of Zimmerman on the Arizona border.</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.ksl.com/article/46745561/sand-hollow-gunlock-quail-creek-all-close-midday-saturday-as-crowds-overwhelm-state-parks" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ksl.com/article/46745561/sand-hollow-gunlock-quail-creek-all-close-midday-saturday-as-crowds-overwhelm-state-parks</a></p>
<p> Spring break atmosphere, no social distancing or masks. Feels good to be alive again.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 03:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/arizona-governor-ducey-to-delay-end-of-lockdown/#comment-1079690&quot;&gt;Rose&lt;/a&gt;.

Rose: Trump&#039;s attack of Kemp was a very big unforced political error on Trump&#039;s part. Note, I am worried that if freedom is not restored soon so that people can start living their lives again, we shall not simply see peaceful protests, but real violence and revolution. This is what I was referring to, since such revolutions usually find some leader with power as his or her goal.

This is not a good situation, but unfortunately our power-hungry and somewhat brainless politicians from both parties don&#039;t really seem aware of how dangerous it is. Trump himself does not seem to get it either.

And the longer they let this drag on, the worse it will get.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/arizona-governor-ducey-to-delay-end-of-lockdown/#comment-1079690">Rose</a>.</p>
<p>Rose: Trump&#8217;s attack of Kemp was a very big unforced political error on Trump&#8217;s part. Note, I am worried that if freedom is not restored soon so that people can start living their lives again, we shall not simply see peaceful protests, but real violence and revolution. This is what I was referring to, since such revolutions usually find some leader with power as his or her goal.</p>
<p>This is not a good situation, but unfortunately our power-hungry and somewhat brainless politicians from both parties don&#8217;t really seem aware of how dangerous it is. Trump himself does not seem to get it either.</p>
<p>And the longer they let this drag on, the worse it will get.</p>
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		By: Rose		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 02:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would it be overly cynical of me to interpret your &lt;i&gt;far worse than Trump ever was&lt;/i&gt; as &lt;i&gt;encouraging even longer lockdowns&lt;/i&gt;?

I know that&#039;s not fair, but from what I&#039;ve read, Trump intentionally threw Gov. Kemp under the bus.  Reporting is that Kemp had formulated his reopening plan without consulting D.C., but based heavily on the signals he was reading from the White House. He later spoke with both Trump and Pence and received nothing but agreement, support, and appreciation during the phone call.  Then, before the COVID briefing, Trump was cornered by one of his advisors who convinced him that Kemp was going too fast. So instead of talking to Kemp first, he used the briefing to denounce Kemp&#039;s plan and lie that he had disagreed with him over it on the phone.  Earlier analysis I&#039;ve read explained this a payback for Kemp choosing Kelly Loeffler over Trump&#039;s favorite Doug Collins to fill the Senate seat Johnny Isakson vacated at the end of last year.  Alternate analysis suggested that Trump wanted the GA plan to go ahead, but used his statement during the briefing both to placate his advisor and to cover his posterior in case the plan when badly.  This is the first I&#039;ve seen that Trump intended it as signal to other governors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be overly cynical of me to interpret your <i>far worse than Trump ever was</i> as <i>encouraging even longer lockdowns</i>?</p>
<p>I know that&#8217;s not fair, but from what I&#8217;ve read, Trump intentionally threw Gov. Kemp under the bus.  Reporting is that Kemp had formulated his reopening plan without consulting D.C., but based heavily on the signals he was reading from the White House. He later spoke with both Trump and Pence and received nothing but agreement, support, and appreciation during the phone call.  Then, before the COVID briefing, Trump was cornered by one of his advisors who convinced him that Kemp was going too fast. So instead of talking to Kemp first, he used the briefing to denounce Kemp&#8217;s plan and lie that he had disagreed with him over it on the phone.  Earlier analysis I&#8217;ve read explained this a payback for Kemp choosing Kelly Loeffler over Trump&#8217;s favorite Doug Collins to fill the Senate seat Johnny Isakson vacated at the end of last year.  Alternate analysis suggested that Trump wanted the GA plan to go ahead, but used his statement during the briefing both to placate his advisor and to cover his posterior in case the plan when badly.  This is the first I&#8217;ve seen that Trump intended it as signal to other governors.</p>
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		By: Rose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Trump&#039;s angry words to Georgia governor reverberate in state capitals as governors move to reopen states&quot;
* https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/politics/trump-kemp-georgia-governors-reopen/
&lt;i&gt;&quot;No governor wants to endure the same wrath as Brian Kemp,&quot; a top adviser to a Republican governor said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to avoid drawing similar ire from the White House.

&quot;We all watched that very carefully and no one wants to be called out like that by the President,&quot; another aide to a Republican governor said. 
...
After the President changed his tune and reprimanded Kemp last week, one ally of the President told CNN the hope among those concerned about Georgia was that it would send a signal to other GOP governors in red states to slow down. The concern was that other Republicans -- already hearing from conservatives and seeing protests -- would feel pressure to follow Georgia. Instead, Trump&#039;s comments about Kemp gave them cover to reopen slower.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Trump&#8217;s angry words to Georgia governor reverberate in state capitals as governors move to reopen states&#8221;<br />
* <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/politics/trump-kemp-georgia-governors-reopen/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/politics/trump-kemp-georgia-governors-reopen/</a><br />
<i>&#8220;No governor wants to endure the same wrath as Brian Kemp,&#8221; a top adviser to a Republican governor said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to avoid drawing similar ire from the White House.</p>
<p>&#8220;We all watched that very carefully and no one wants to be called out like that by the President,&#8221; another aide to a Republican governor said.<br />
&#8230;<br />
After the President changed his tune and reprimanded Kemp last week, one ally of the President told CNN the hope among those concerned about Georgia was that it would send a signal to other GOP governors in red states to slow down. The concern was that other Republicans &#8212; already hearing from conservatives and seeing protests &#8212; would feel pressure to follow Georgia. Instead, Trump&#8217;s comments about Kemp gave them cover to reopen slower.</i></p>
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