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	Comments on: Astronomers announced today the discovery of several dozen stars which are traveling so fast they will escape the Milky Way galaxy.	</title>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-137604&quot;&gt;Pzatchok&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Their calculations are based on the fact they those previous stars had to reach escape velocity from the galactic center. Which is a VERY different place compared to the rest of the galaxy.

Escape velocity in our local area is NOT that high.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

An excellent point I had not thought of.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-137604">Pzatchok</a>.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Their calculations are based on the fact they those previous stars had to reach escape velocity from the galactic center. Which is a VERY different place compared to the rest of the galaxy.</p>
<p>Escape velocity in our local area is NOT that high.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>An excellent point I had not thought of.</p>
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		By: Pzatchok		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136339&quot;&gt;Rodney&lt;/a&gt;.

The puppeteer&#039;s would never send their planet ships back into a higher density region of space. They would have left the dense areas as fast as possible and stayed out there.

Hell they even feared sharp corners.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136339">Rodney</a>.</p>
<p>The puppeteer&#8217;s would never send their planet ships back into a higher density region of space. They would have left the dense areas as fast as possible and stayed out there.</p>
<p>Hell they even feared sharp corners.</p>
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		By: Pzatchok		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Their calculations are based on the fact they those previous stars had to reach escape velocity from the galactic center. Which is a VERY different place compared to the rest of the galaxy.

Escape velocity in our local area is NOT that high.


A high speed binaries might just be able to produce the needed speed to leave the galaxy if one of them suddenly &quot;disappeared&quot; and tossed the other one off.


We know there are close by star clusters outside out galaxy, any of those could have been a point of origin.
Whats the escape velocity from an empty area outside the local galaxy?
Are we passing them at the same time they are passing us?
Speed is relative.

They never make an exact claim for any of the objects speeds and in fact make the statement they could very well be way off. They are not even sure of the exact directions yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their calculations are based on the fact they those previous stars had to reach escape velocity from the galactic center. Which is a VERY different place compared to the rest of the galaxy.</p>
<p>Escape velocity in our local area is NOT that high.</p>
<p>A high speed binaries might just be able to produce the needed speed to leave the galaxy if one of them suddenly &#8220;disappeared&#8221; and tossed the other one off.</p>
<p>We know there are close by star clusters outside out galaxy, any of those could have been a point of origin.<br />
Whats the escape velocity from an empty area outside the local galaxy?<br />
Are we passing them at the same time they are passing us?<br />
Speed is relative.</p>
<p>They never make an exact claim for any of the objects speeds and in fact make the statement they could very well be way off. They are not even sure of the exact directions yet.</p>
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		By: Pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2014 22:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136355&quot;&gt;Robert Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt;.

Who said it had to come from our galaxy?

There is more than one.

As long as the real pro&#039;s don&#039;t come up with some super-string like theory to explain it I&#039;ll bet its just something simple.

Speed is relative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136355">Robert Zimmerman</a>.</p>
<p>Who said it had to come from our galaxy?</p>
<p>There is more than one.</p>
<p>As long as the real pro&#8217;s don&#8217;t come up with some super-string like theory to explain it I&#8217;ll bet its just something simple.</p>
<p>Speed is relative.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136352&quot;&gt;Pzatchok&lt;/a&gt;.

Even an ordinary black hole doesn&#039;t have the gravity to fling these runaway stars away at these speeds. As I said, the theory had been that you needed a supermassive black hole, billions of solar masses, as found at the galaxy&#039;s center. It didn&#039;t do it, however, which leaves the astronomers baffled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136352">Pzatchok</a>.</p>
<p>Even an ordinary black hole doesn&#8217;t have the gravity to fling these runaway stars away at these speeds. As I said, the theory had been that you needed a supermassive black hole, billions of solar masses, as found at the galaxy&#8217;s center. It didn&#8217;t do it, however, which leaves the astronomers baffled.</p>
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		By: Pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136321&quot;&gt;Robert Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt;.

Stars could also mean blackholes.

For me at least a blackhole is in the life cycle of some stars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136321">Robert Zimmerman</a>.</p>
<p>Stars could also mean blackholes.</p>
<p>For me at least a blackhole is in the life cycle of some stars.</p>
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		By: Rodney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Puppeteer worlds escaping the coming galactic calamity]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puppeteer worlds escaping the coming galactic calamity</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2014 19:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136315&quot;&gt;Pzatchok&lt;/a&gt;.

The astronomers made the point in the article, as well as at their press conference, that the kick received from a supernova is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; sufficient to produce the speed these stars are traveling at. That is why they had assumed the kick had come from the supermassive black hole. That it did not leaves a mystery that is not easily explained.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136315">Pzatchok</a>.</p>
<p>The astronomers made the point in the article, as well as at their press conference, that the kick received from a supernova is <em>not</em> sufficient to produce the speed these stars are traveling at. That is why they had assumed the kick had come from the supermassive black hole. That it did not leaves a mystery that is not easily explained.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2014 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This looks like just one possible end for binary stars. 

Spiraling inward toward each other faster and faster until one eventually goes supernova and kicks the other one away. 
Both its explosion and subsequent loss of mass could account for the sister star being thrown off at an odd angle and high speed.

Random chance would send it in the right direction to have the needed speed to leave.
It could have just as easily been tossed the other way and never gained the extra momentum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like just one possible end for binary stars. </p>
<p>Spiraling inward toward each other faster and faster until one eventually goes supernova and kicks the other one away.<br />
Both its explosion and subsequent loss of mass could account for the sister star being thrown off at an odd angle and high speed.</p>
<p>Random chance would send it in the right direction to have the needed speed to leave.<br />
It could have just as easily been tossed the other way and never gained the extra momentum.</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136289&quot;&gt;Cotour&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeppers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136289">Cotour</a>.</p>
<p>Yeppers!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136206&quot;&gt;joe&lt;/a&gt;.

A good analogy, except in the end, when you compare the two you have whats left as the result. The universe remains and serves its own purpose, fiat currency and central banks were warned against by the founders, and all that is left in the end is chaos and one big black hole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136206">joe</a>.</p>
<p>A good analogy, except in the end, when you compare the two you have whats left as the result. The universe remains and serves its own purpose, fiat currency and central banks were warned against by the founders, and all that is left in the end is chaos and one big black hole.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-announced-today-the-discovery-of-several-dozen-stars-which-are-traveling-so-fast-they-will-escape-the-milky-way-galaxy/#comment-136165&quot;&gt;Cotour&lt;/a&gt;.

Almost sounds like how the government creates money!]]></description>
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<p>Almost sounds like how the government creates money!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2014 02:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So about 14 billion years ago, from a pin point erupted something into nothing. Energy transformed into matter, E=MC2. And it is assumed by some that we are the only forms of life in this universe that exists in it and are self aware and are able to manipulate matter and space to our will to the extent that we are currently able to manipulate it or beyond?

If we can establish and come to understand one, what is so difficult about believing the other? But where is the evidence, and if there is evidence are we able to perceive and understand it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So about 14 billion years ago, from a pin point erupted something into nothing. Energy transformed into matter, E=MC2. And it is assumed by some that we are the only forms of life in this universe that exists in it and are self aware and are able to manipulate matter and space to our will to the extent that we are currently able to manipulate it or beyond?</p>
<p>If we can establish and come to understand one, what is so difficult about believing the other? But where is the evidence, and if there is evidence are we able to perceive and understand it?</p>
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