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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2025 18:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;This agrees with recent paper about another planetary candidate, in an orbit which rules out the Brown-Batygin Planet Nine (which you’re calling X).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think we are in a position yet to say that the Brown-Batygin hypothesis is ruled out. But it is an interesting development, and it does suggest that there&#039;s a lot more out there in the Kuiper Belt and Scattered Disc that we still haven&#039;t found.

We&#039;ll learn a lot more once the Vera Rubin telescope (first light planned for July 2025) is operational.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This agrees with recent paper about another planetary candidate, in an orbit which rules out the Brown-Batygin Planet Nine (which you’re calling X).</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we are in a position yet to say that the Brown-Batygin hypothesis is ruled out. But it is an interesting development, and it does suggest that there&#8217;s a lot more out there in the Kuiper Belt and Scattered Disc that we still haven&#8217;t found.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll learn a lot more once the Vera Rubin telescope (first light planned for July 2025) is operational.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2025 15:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-discover-another-object-in-an-orbit-so-extreme-it-reaches-the-outskirts-of-the-theorized-oort-cloud/#comment-1589557&quot;&gt;Michael McNeil&lt;/a&gt;.

Michael McNeil: Fixed. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-discover-another-object-in-an-orbit-so-extreme-it-reaches-the-outskirts-of-the-theorized-oort-cloud/#comment-1589557">Michael McNeil</a>.</p>
<p>Michael McNeil: Fixed. Thanks.</p>
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		By: Michael McNeil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael McNeil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2025 10:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[other solar system =&#062; outer solar system…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>other solar system =&gt; outer solar system…</p>
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		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2025 01:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The observational astronomers score yet another point against the theoreticians.  So it goes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The observational astronomers score yet another point against the theoreticians.  So it goes.</p>
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		By: David Ross		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2025 23:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As to 2017 OF201: they project albedo 0.15. That is dark and I suspect assumes tholins, as seen on (half of) Pluto. Tholins form under sunlight, however weak. Sedna, further out, shines over 0.4. Eris is bright too.
I think this object is smaller than the 700 km they&#039;ve given it. It might not be spherical after all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to 2017 OF201: they project albedo 0.15. That is dark and I suspect assumes tholins, as seen on (half of) Pluto. Tholins form under sunlight, however weak. Sedna, further out, shines over 0.4. Eris is bright too.<br />
I think this object is smaller than the 700 km they&#8217;ve given it. It might not be spherical after all.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2025 23:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-discover-another-object-in-an-orbit-so-extreme-it-reaches-the-outskirts-of-the-theorized-oort-cloud/#comment-1588973&quot;&gt;David Ross&lt;/a&gt;.

David Ross: Minor point: I&#039;m not calling it X, this was the term the researchers used in the paper.

They mention this other work you refer to here, which also suggests this theorized &quot;ninth&quot; planet doesn&#039;t exist. Calling a &quot;ninth planet&quot; is in itself foolish, because this research is showing that there are a lot more than the nine planets known (I include Pluto, as do most planetary scientists). I am willing to bet that a large number of these Kuiper and Trans-Neptunian objects will be large enough so that gravity will forced them into a spherical shape, the definition for a planet that works best for the scientists who study these things.

Thus, our solar system likely has dozens more planets in its outer reaches. We just have to find them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/astronomers-discover-another-object-in-an-orbit-so-extreme-it-reaches-the-outskirts-of-the-theorized-oort-cloud/#comment-1588973">David Ross</a>.</p>
<p>David Ross: Minor point: I&#8217;m not calling it X, this was the term the researchers used in the paper.</p>
<p>They mention this other work you refer to here, which also suggests this theorized &#8220;ninth&#8221; planet doesn&#8217;t exist. Calling a &#8220;ninth planet&#8221; is in itself foolish, because this research is showing that there are a lot more than the nine planets known (I include Pluto, as do most planetary scientists). I am willing to bet that a large number of these Kuiper and Trans-Neptunian objects will be large enough so that gravity will forced them into a spherical shape, the definition for a planet that works best for the scientists who study these things.</p>
<p>Thus, our solar system likely has dozens more planets in its outer reaches. We just have to find them.</p>
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		By: David Ross		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2025 22:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This agrees with recent paper about another planetary candidate, in an orbit which rules out the Brown-Batygin Planet Nine (which you&#039;re calling X).
That&#039;s Fortuna or Greek Tyche, here -
https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.17288]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This agrees with recent paper about another planetary candidate, in an orbit which rules out the Brown-Batygin Planet Nine (which you&#8217;re calling X).<br />
That&#8217;s Fortuna or Greek Tyche, here &#8211;<br />
<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.17288" rel="nofollow ugc">https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.17288</a></p>
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