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		By: john hare		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john hare]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune
April 9, 2025 at 7:20 am
&quot;&quot;&quot;For years I have wondered whether Earth / Lunar orbiting asteroids could be used for planetary defense. Small deflections could be made by onboard rockets that might allow them to be steered into the path of incoming threats.&quot;&quot;&quot;

Obviously I agree.

https://selenianboondocks.com/2013/03/dinokiller-eight-ball/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray Van Dune<br />
April 9, 2025 at 7:20 am<br />
&#8220;&#8221;&#8221;For years I have wondered whether Earth / Lunar orbiting asteroids could be used for planetary defense. Small deflections could be made by onboard rockets that might allow them to be steered into the path of incoming threats.&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously I agree.</p>
<p><a href="https://selenianboondocks.com/2013/03/dinokiller-eight-ball/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://selenianboondocks.com/2013/03/dinokiller-eight-ball/</a></p>
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		By: Don C.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 20:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The paper referenced here only theorizes where in the asteroid belt that 2024YR4 originated.  Although it does have all of the orbital elements listed in Table 1, plus three other constants that are calculated for orbit..

This paper (arXiv:2504.04003v1 by Elango &#038; Loeb) estimates parallax corrections for the orbit at the Dec 22, 2032 date.  It also shows all six of the orbital elements.

Both papers ended with an appeal for telescopes at all five Lagrange points:
&quot;...NEO-specific telescopes positioned at all Lagrange points thereby eliminating existing NEO blindspots.&quot;  I smell more cash for scopes.

I could not locate a paper that actually calculates the estimated &quot;hit&quot; percentages.  Most of the folks are using the JPL Horizons system (https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons/) for calculating the orbits of earth-moon-YR4, and may not have the time to write formal papers about their findings.  But there is a tutorial for using the Horizons program yourself, with all of its 1,444,807 asteroids et al.  Yeah, and here I thought there were only 1,443,500 of them!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paper referenced here only theorizes where in the asteroid belt that 2024YR4 originated.  Although it does have all of the orbital elements listed in Table 1, plus three other constants that are calculated for orbit..</p>
<p>This paper (arXiv:2504.04003v1 by Elango &amp; Loeb) estimates parallax corrections for the orbit at the Dec 22, 2032 date.  It also shows all six of the orbital elements.</p>
<p>Both papers ended with an appeal for telescopes at all five Lagrange points:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;NEO-specific telescopes positioned at all Lagrange points thereby eliminating existing NEO blindspots.&#8221;  I smell more cash for scopes.</p>
<p>I could not locate a paper that actually calculates the estimated &#8220;hit&#8221; percentages.  Most of the folks are using the JPL Horizons system (<a href="https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons/</a>) for calculating the orbits of earth-moon-YR4, and may not have the time to write formal papers about their findings.  But there is a tutorial for using the Horizons program yourself, with all of its 1,444,807 asteroids et al.  Yeah, and here I thought there were only 1,443,500 of them!</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And yes, obviously capturing such a guardian asteroid would require enormous energy, at least a nuclear powered rocket firing for months or even years!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, obviously capturing such a guardian asteroid would require enormous energy, at least a nuclear powered rocket firing for months or even years!</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 16:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Popcorn in Bed
Cassie; First Time Watching...
&quot;Starship Troopers&quot; (1997)
https://youtu.be/ls7aa_GRoOQ
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Popcorn in Bed<br />
Cassie; First Time Watching&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Starship Troopers&#8221; (1997)<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/ls7aa_GRoOQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/ls7aa_GRoOQ</a><br />
42:05</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 14:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For years I have wondered whether Earth / Lunar orbiting asteroids could be used for planetary defense. Small deflections could be made by onboard rockets that might allow them to be steered into the path of incoming threats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years I have wondered whether Earth / Lunar orbiting asteroids could be used for planetary defense. Small deflections could be made by onboard rockets that might allow them to be steered into the path of incoming threats.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some have suggested burying inflatable based in rubble piles for shielding --but a nice solid rock has its charms as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some have suggested burying inflatable based in rubble piles for shielding &#8211;but a nice solid rock has its charms as well.</p>
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