Love him or loathe him, Corbyn was bought down by the media… He could have been the first genuine left wing priminister the UK has had in generations… As it ended up we got more Conservative government… Which seems to continue with this parliament … Tony Blair was pretty Tory light, the current shower seem even more right wing… Cutting benefits for the disabled, taking away OAP’s winter fuel allowance, refusing to increase tax on the highest earners… ( Which is not quite what a left wing government is supposed to have as policy )

They are a big ball of snakes, biting each other’s tails and ignoring the electoral public… I fear that the next UK government may be a popularist far right shower… Who will complain about the hole in public funds the previous government left.

“Brazil” (1985)
The Office (Central Services) scene –
https://youtu.be/V-yXL-LDMyg
1:18

I am not a fan of Corbyn. But it was so painfully obvious that what the Grauniad did to him *was* a hatchet job. And it was not hard to see whose interests that hatchet job served!

You raise some very good points regarding the Guardian…. I would consider it a reliable news source, but as with any news outlet, it should be read with some awareness of it’s biases.

It is still fairly left leaning, but I cancelled my subscription after the hatchet job they did on Corbyn… Along with every other MSM outlet ( with the possible exception of the Morning Star, but unfortunately that isn’t available here in Sweden;-)

One of those times I wish we had a like button.

But the Greenwald saga highlights, I think, what the real problem is with the Guardian. They are not just left-liberal, but terminally *establishment* left-liberal. Their reporting and their commentary relentlessly reflects the vested interests of the educated elite class of the Labour Party, in what they report and what they do not report and how they report what they do report. That elite class had to back Tony Blair’s support for the Iraq War, so the Guardian did, too. When that class decided that Jeremy Corbyn was a threat to Labour’s electoral prospects, the Guardian dutifully pursued him to the death. The grooming gangs scandal was dangerous to that elite, so it refused to cover it, then shifted to pushing false narratives that the groomers were mostly white Britons when they could no longer ignore it. When Greenwald slipped through the cracks with an investigation that deeply embarrassed that elite, he had to be disavowed.

Notwithstanding its robust Science section, the Guardian has never developed any serious in-house journalism on space, but it is not hard to see why this story would interest them: an opportunity to create yet another regulatory apparatus, employing the sorts of people who are friends of Guardian editors as regulators — all courtesy of a Wet Tory, which just makes it perfect. Not that there’s many Tories any longer who *aren’t* Wet….

The Guardian is a fairly trustworthy news source, even though it is left leaning, it’s positively right wing compared to your loony left over there!

There is no impending Islamic takeover in the UK. As I stated in that other thread we are having a spot of heated discussion in, the Muslim community makes up 6% of the population. It’s only personal experience, but the vast majority of Muslims I know are very moderate. There are of course fundamentalists, but this can be said of pretty much any social demographic.

And finally,.to return to the actual subject of this thread…. It’s not often I agree with you on political matters Bob, but you nailed this one! The guy is an obvious blowhard, and fortunately impotent as he is a conservative, and in opposition, ( remarkably enough, belonging to the party of smaller government that laid out all the red tape in the first place)

It remains to be seen what the current government will do regarding space policy. I don’t hold out much hope for anything better… They are making an almighty mess of things after a few months in power, blaming the previous government for leaving a huge hole in public finances. Strangely enough, the conservatives said exactly the same when they beat labour over a decade ago.

I’m pretty sure you have to take an IQ test and fail it to become a politician.

mkent: Oh yes, I agree entirely. But then, this is the kind of bankrupt reporting I have been reading from these mainstream propaganda leftists news outlets for practically three decades. Unfortunately, the quality keeps going down more and more into a bizarre Bizarro world interpretation of reality.

If they regulate it, they can tax it, charge the fees, steal the money from others labours.

This is want he want to seize.

Ditto in all respects. There are times when the obdurate cluelessness of the British left makes our own neo-Marxist utopians look like hard-headed realists by comparison. I guess the parable of The Little Red Hen has been put down the Memory Hole in Old Blighty.

Mike Borgelt,

Agree about the growing irrelevance of Britain, but I’m much less certain there will be an Islamic takeover – at least not a successful one. I would rate as several times more likely an Islamic extinction in Britain. There are certainly more white soccer hooligans in the UK than there are Muslim men. And even one-on-one, my money would be on the yabbos to take home the cup.

mkent: C’mon, how can you think leftist The Guardian is a parody outlet? One of my most passionate leftist commenters just told us today that it is ” a well respected news source.” And we all know leftists are always right!

As opposed to rockets, satellites, and telescopes?

”Freeman added the UK is well placed to lead on such matters. ‘Space needs a global regulatory alliance led by and headquartered in a trusted nation. You need a country that’s got a long and distinguished history as a trusted partner, a long, 300-year role as a regulator of choice…’”

OK, Bob. I think you got taken in by a parody account. There’s no way that’s real. No one could be that inane.

And yet, somehow, we are supposed to trust that they have any clue about how to effectively regulate and nurture a competitive space industry.

The British state of the past age could have done this, perhaps. But that Britain no longer exists.