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		By: Andi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andi]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;an anomaly during the first stage’s re-entry, resulting in a &#039;mushroom cloud&#039; formation&quot;

Almost as good as &quot;RUD&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an anomaly during the first stage’s re-entry, resulting in a &#8216;mushroom cloud&#8217; formation&#8221;</p>
<p>Almost as good as &#8220;RUD&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2025 08:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cross pollination is a good thing in that instance 
Asians have dominated math and science, while a lot of kids here are shiftless.

Sometimes I wonder if economic distress is actually a friend to rocketry.

Dwayne Day isn&#039;t the first to notice how Alabama preserved space history better than oil rich Texas.
R-7 rose from WWII privation. China&#039;s youth wanted more than rice paddies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cross pollination is a good thing in that instance<br />
Asians have dominated math and science, while a lot of kids here are shiftless.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder if economic distress is actually a friend to rocketry.</p>
<p>Dwayne Day isn&#8217;t the first to notice how Alabama preserved space history better than oil rich Texas.<br />
R-7 rose from WWII privation. China&#8217;s youth wanted more than rice paddies.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/chinas-long-march-12a-launches-but-fails-to-land-the-first-stage/#comment-1626653&quot;&gt;Dick Eagleson&lt;/a&gt;.

Dick Eagleson: I was actually impressed with the Zhuque-3 attempt. It hit the target, though not softly. Reminded me of the first five SpaceX attempts hitting their drone ships. Suggests this Chinese government-sponsored pseudo-company will succeed in &#039;26.

Since the government appears to require all these pseudo-companies to share data, the Long March 12A group will have access to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/chinas-long-march-12a-launches-but-fails-to-land-the-first-stage/#comment-1626653">Dick Eagleson</a>.</p>
<p>Dick Eagleson: I was actually impressed with the Zhuque-3 attempt. It hit the target, though not softly. Reminded me of the first five SpaceX attempts hitting their drone ships. Suggests this Chinese government-sponsored pseudo-company will succeed in &#8217;26.</p>
<p>Since the government appears to require all these pseudo-companies to share data, the Long March 12A group will have access to it.</p>
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		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2025 05:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems my prediction that we would see no PRC 1st stages landing intact this year is pretty safe.  But I didn&#039;t expect any next year either and that prediction is looking shakier.  We&#039;ll just have to see how fast Landspace and whatever alphabet soup PRC government outfit was responsible for today&#039;s fireworks manage to gear up for another go.  Both the government and &quot;commercial&quot; parts of the PRC&#039;s space apparat are finding out that it&#039;s a lot easier to make rockets that &lt;i&gt;look&lt;/i&gt; like SpaceX products than it is to make ones that also &lt;i&gt;act&lt;/i&gt; like SpaceX products.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems my prediction that we would see no PRC 1st stages landing intact this year is pretty safe.  But I didn&#8217;t expect any next year either and that prediction is looking shakier.  We&#8217;ll just have to see how fast Landspace and whatever alphabet soup PRC government outfit was responsible for today&#8217;s fireworks manage to gear up for another go.  Both the government and &#8220;commercial&#8221; parts of the PRC&#8217;s space apparat are finding out that it&#8217;s a lot easier to make rockets that <i>look</i> like SpaceX products than it is to make ones that also <i>act</i> like SpaceX products.</p>
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