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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2023 23:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Around 2016, when Falcon 9 was just starting to be reusable, ULA predicted that there would be 20 people working in space by 2021.  They may not have been so very far off in their optimism.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxftPmpt7aA (7 minutes, &quot;ULA CisLunar-1000&quot;)

ULA has abandoned some of the plans mentioned in the video, but these can be replaced by other companies and their plans.  

The video mentions that about half the energy needed to get anywhere in the solar system is just getting into Earth orbit.  Here is a delta-v chart:  
 http://i.imgur.com/SqdzxzF.png 

Scott Manley mentioned this record number of people in space in his recent &quot;space updates&quot; video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORTlscibOn4#t=530 (watch 2 minutes)

Manley mentions that the Virgin Galactic flight last week resulted in 20 people in space, but this Chinese launch puts 17 people in &lt;em&gt;orbit.  &lt;/em&gt;A distinction with a difference.  Manley also says that the SpaceX documents in the lawsuit against the FAA regarding Starship launches show that SpaceX has spent &lt;em&gt;$5 Billion &lt;/em&gt;on Starship and the Boca Chica sites.  My reading of the documents was that they have spent only $3 billion or so.  Manley also says that Starship is expected to cost $2 billion per year for future development, but Starlink is now bringing in revenues with (last I heard) 1-1/2 million subscribers; this should bring in $2 billion per year.  More as subscriptions increase.  Last year&#039;s 60 or so Falcon launches should have brought in around $4 billion in launch revenue.  

Robert&#039;s posting reminds us that the manned utilization of space is growing, and that China is a major player in this growth.  Manned space is starting to shape up in the way that, in the last half of the 2010s decade, we had expected for this decade.  

Exciting times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Around 2016, when Falcon 9 was just starting to be reusable, ULA predicted that there would be 20 people working in space by 2021.  They may not have been so very far off in their optimism.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxftPmpt7aA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxftPmpt7aA</a> (7 minutes, &#8220;ULA CisLunar-1000&#8221;)</p>
<p>ULA has abandoned some of the plans mentioned in the video, but these can be replaced by other companies and their plans.  </p>
<p>The video mentions that about half the energy needed to get anywhere in the solar system is just getting into Earth orbit.  Here is a delta-v chart:<br />
 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/SqdzxzF.png" rel="nofollow ugc">http://i.imgur.com/SqdzxzF.png</a> </p>
<p>Scott Manley mentioned this record number of people in space in his recent &#8220;space updates&#8221; video:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORTlscibOn4#t=530" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORTlscibOn4#t=530</a> (watch 2 minutes)</p>
<p>Manley mentions that the Virgin Galactic flight last week resulted in 20 people in space, but this Chinese launch puts 17 people in <em>orbit.  </em>A distinction with a difference.  Manley also says that the SpaceX documents in the lawsuit against the FAA regarding Starship launches show that SpaceX has spent <em>$5 Billion </em>on Starship and the Boca Chica sites.  My reading of the documents was that they have spent only $3 billion or so.  Manley also says that Starship is expected to cost $2 billion per year for future development, but Starlink is now bringing in revenues with (last I heard) 1-1/2 million subscribers; this should bring in $2 billion per year.  More as subscriptions increase.  Last year&#8217;s 60 or so Falcon launches should have brought in around $4 billion in launch revenue.  </p>
<p>Robert&#8217;s posting reminds us that the manned utilization of space is growing, and that China is a major player in this growth.  Manned space is starting to shape up in the way that, in the last half of the 2010s decade, we had expected for this decade.  </p>
<p>Exciting times.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2023 16:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/chinese-launch-yesterday-set-record-for-number-of-humans-in-space/#comment-1414414&quot;&gt;Ray Van Dune&lt;/a&gt;.

Ray Van Dune: My eyes no longer see as well as they used to. I misread the time and pm. Now fixed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/chinese-launch-yesterday-set-record-for-number-of-humans-in-space/#comment-1414414">Ray Van Dune</a>.</p>
<p>Ray Van Dune: My eyes no longer see as well as they used to. I misread the time and pm. Now fixed.</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2023 16:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NextSpaceFlight indicates that the targeted splashdown time of AX-2 is 23:09 EST this evening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NextSpaceFlight indicates that the targeted splashdown time of AX-2 is 23:09 EST this evening.</p>
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