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	Comments on: Chris Hatfield describes how a bureaucratic tangle with the space doctor bureaucracy almost grounded him before his ISS expedition.	</title>
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		By: Tom Billings		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pilots, as a group, have never been enamored of flight surgeons. After all, the major interaction a pilot has with a flight surgeon is being told &quot;You can&#039;t fly!&quot;, to someone who lives to fly. The biggest result of adding more layers of bureaucracy is to keep the pilot or astronaut from being able to directly argue his or her case to the one who makes the decision. *Not* a recipe for happiness!

I dealt with some of the people involved with medical effects of free fall on human performance in the Shuttle Program for some months in the 1980s. Even the physician who had been flying on the Shuttle, when he visited our museum, talked like he was against most of what he called &quot;the space sickness industry&quot;. 

He claimed that about a quarter of the people who go into space would always throw up the first day, and then most would be fine by the second day. About a quarter of that quarter would be sick for a week, and then most would get over it, and about a quarter of those would be sick for a month, and then get over it. A quarter of those should never go into Space. There were cross-currents within the community who studied space sickness for NASA that were, ...distracting. 

At the end of the 1980s a play was written about the life of a physician studying space sickness. It included such egregious slurs about the protagonist as obviously direct quotations from that particular physician-astronaut, which would have required NASA to fire him, that as a script checker for it I had to advise a revision excising that. Why? Knocking a high-profile astronaut from JSC in those days would have also ensured so little cooperation from the Astronaut Office in the future that the protagonist&#039;s career in Space Medicine would also have been finished, or at least brought to a screeching halt. NASA has always been strongly protective of the angel/right stuff image of &quot;the Astronaut Corps.&quot;

Add to this sort of atmosphere the complications of differing medical doctrine and practice in each country contributing bureaucrats to the medical bureaucracy, then add the politics between those countries just to complicate matters, and you get a perfect stew of strife.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pilots, as a group, have never been enamored of flight surgeons. After all, the major interaction a pilot has with a flight surgeon is being told &#8220;You can&#8217;t fly!&#8221;, to someone who lives to fly. The biggest result of adding more layers of bureaucracy is to keep the pilot or astronaut from being able to directly argue his or her case to the one who makes the decision. *Not* a recipe for happiness!</p>
<p>I dealt with some of the people involved with medical effects of free fall on human performance in the Shuttle Program for some months in the 1980s. Even the physician who had been flying on the Shuttle, when he visited our museum, talked like he was against most of what he called &#8220;the space sickness industry&#8221;. </p>
<p>He claimed that about a quarter of the people who go into space would always throw up the first day, and then most would be fine by the second day. About a quarter of that quarter would be sick for a week, and then most would get over it, and about a quarter of those would be sick for a month, and then get over it. A quarter of those should never go into Space. There were cross-currents within the community who studied space sickness for NASA that were, &#8230;distracting. </p>
<p>At the end of the 1980s a play was written about the life of a physician studying space sickness. It included such egregious slurs about the protagonist as obviously direct quotations from that particular physician-astronaut, which would have required NASA to fire him, that as a script checker for it I had to advise a revision excising that. Why? Knocking a high-profile astronaut from JSC in those days would have also ensured so little cooperation from the Astronaut Office in the future that the protagonist&#8217;s career in Space Medicine would also have been finished, or at least brought to a screeching halt. NASA has always been strongly protective of the angel/right stuff image of &#8220;the Astronaut Corps.&#8221;</p>
<p>Add to this sort of atmosphere the complications of differing medical doctrine and practice in each country contributing bureaucrats to the medical bureaucracy, then add the politics between those countries just to complicate matters, and you get a perfect stew of strife.</p>
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