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		By: Edward		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the article: &quot;No student on this campus should feel unsafe, ostracized, or threatened.&quot;  

I guess that does not apply if the student on that campus is part of a team sport.  How likely is it that the innocent members of the team are not being ostracized?  How likely is it that all the other teams on campus feel threatened by this unfair punishment.  

And how threatened did the women who were not at the party feel during the chant?  Or afterward, for that matter (since none were there at the time)?  It is most likely that they never felt threatened but are (mis)using the system to threaten others into silence.  

So much for upholding the UMW values.  They are applied to the team, but they are ignored when the team and others feel threatened into silence.  The university may have no legal requirement to uphold the First Amendment, but its students have the right (and expectation) that their rights will be protected.  

From the article: &quot;Some students have now been exposed to those offensive and lurid lyrics due to posting by others on social media.&quot;

Have the students who posted the supposedly threatening lyrics likewise been punished?  Perhaps the punishment is being unfairly applied all around, punishing the guilty and the innocent, but none of those guilty of continuing to spread the supposed threats.  

When a student is not free to express himself in a private residence, off campus, and away from anyone who might be offended, what freedoms of expression does he really have?  

When a student is not free to express offensive thoughts, what freedoms of expression does he really have?  It is only the offensive expressions that have to be protected.  Otherwise all conversation would have to revolve around the weather (and even *that* is becoming a political -- thus potentially offensive -- topic).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article: &#8220;No student on this campus should feel unsafe, ostracized, or threatened.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I guess that does not apply if the student on that campus is part of a team sport.  How likely is it that the innocent members of the team are not being ostracized?  How likely is it that all the other teams on campus feel threatened by this unfair punishment.  </p>
<p>And how threatened did the women who were not at the party feel during the chant?  Or afterward, for that matter (since none were there at the time)?  It is most likely that they never felt threatened but are (mis)using the system to threaten others into silence.  </p>
<p>So much for upholding the UMW values.  They are applied to the team, but they are ignored when the team and others feel threatened into silence.  The university may have no legal requirement to uphold the First Amendment, but its students have the right (and expectation) that their rights will be protected.  </p>
<p>From the article: &#8220;Some students have now been exposed to those offensive and lurid lyrics due to posting by others on social media.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have the students who posted the supposedly threatening lyrics likewise been punished?  Perhaps the punishment is being unfairly applied all around, punishing the guilty and the innocent, but none of those guilty of continuing to spread the supposed threats.  </p>
<p>When a student is not free to express himself in a private residence, off campus, and away from anyone who might be offended, what freedoms of expression does he really have?  </p>
<p>When a student is not free to express offensive thoughts, what freedoms of expression does he really have?  It is only the offensive expressions that have to be protected.  Otherwise all conversation would have to revolve around the weather (and even *that* is becoming a political &#8212; thus potentially offensive &#8212; topic).</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/college-punishes-students-for-sexist-chanting-at-party-even-those-not-there/#comment-733312&quot;&gt;Nicholas Paizis&lt;/a&gt;.

How much do you want to bet that Mary Washington University gets a lot of government money?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/college-punishes-students-for-sexist-chanting-at-party-even-those-not-there/#comment-733312">Nicholas Paizis</a>.</p>
<p>How much do you want to bet that Mary Washington University gets a lot of government money?</p>
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		By: Nicholas Paizis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;the chanting, as ugly as it might have been, is perfectly legal under the first amendment&quot;

The First Amendment only limits Government. If Mary Washington University is a private school then they can have any rules they want, as absurd as these are. If they receive Government money that may be a different issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the chanting, as ugly as it might have been, is perfectly legal under the first amendment&#8221;</p>
<p>The First Amendment only limits Government. If Mary Washington University is a private school then they can have any rules they want, as absurd as these are. If they receive Government money that may be a different issue.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks to me like there was a &quot;hit&quot; put out on the rugby team and this was just the catalyst that gave the excuse to execute the hit.

Rugby is a &quot;violent&quot; sport much like football and it may encourage too much rowdy male activity and head trauma  which is unacceptable in the coming new world.

Fascism? Sure, why not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me like there was a &#8220;hit&#8221; put out on the rugby team and this was just the catalyst that gave the excuse to execute the hit.</p>
<p>Rugby is a &#8220;violent&#8221; sport much like football and it may encourage too much rowdy male activity and head trauma  which is unacceptable in the coming new world.</p>
<p>Fascism? Sure, why not.</p>
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