Comments on: Dassault lobbies ESA to fund its Vortex reusable mini-shuttle https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/dassault-lobbies-esa-to-fund-its-vortex-reusable-mini-shuttle/ Sun, 27 Jul 2025 07:46:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Jeff Wright https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/dassault-lobbies-esa-to-fund-its-vortex-reusable-mini-shuttle/#comment-1612489 Sun, 27 Jul 2025 07:46:45 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=115817#comment-1612489 A comparison of real and fictional craft

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1HGIACQqO_w

]]> By: Blair Ivey https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/dassault-lobbies-esa-to-fund-its-vortex-reusable-mini-shuttle/#comment-1612477 Sun, 27 Jul 2025 06:33:05 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=115817#comment-1612477 “I can’t hold her! She’s breaking up! She’s breaking up!”

Government space monopolists in the 21st century.

]]> By: Dick Eagleson https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/dassault-lobbies-esa-to-fund-its-vortex-reusable-mini-shuttle/#comment-1612403 Sat, 26 Jul 2025 21:51:07 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=115817#comment-1612403 Not too surprising Dassault is looking for government money for Vortex. It’s pretty much a Euro-X-37 and the actual X-37 was entirely a U.S. government project.

]]> By: Jeff Wright https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/dassault-lobbies-esa-to-fund-its-vortex-reusable-mini-shuttle/#comment-1612292 Sat, 26 Jul 2025 05:29:20 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=115817#comment-1612292 There was a Six Million Dollar Man episode where he got back in the lifting body–except what was shown was the HL-10, IIRC

]]> By: Ronaldus Magnus https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/dassault-lobbies-esa-to-fund-its-vortex-reusable-mini-shuttle/#comment-1612252 Sat, 26 Jul 2025 00:30:25 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=115817#comment-1612252 Every time I see a vehicle, spacecraft shaped this way, I harken back to the Six Million Dollar Man, and the opening scene. The opening scene is actually a real crash of the Northrop M2-F2. The real test pilot, Bruce Peterson, survived that crash.

]]> By: Jeff Wright https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/dassault-lobbies-esa-to-fund-its-vortex-reusable-mini-shuttle/#comment-1612219 Fri, 25 Jul 2025 19:34:18 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=115817#comment-1612219 Dream Chaser has BOR’s Soviet slime on it. They want a bridge back to Hermes:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16621.0;attach=2392139;image

Dream Chaser went through a lot of iterations–starting as a mini Energia/Buran X-34 deal.
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/dream-chaser-for-cev-requirement.4389/page-7#post-600063

The manned Dream Chaser won’t look like the BOR-4 at least

]]> By: pzatchok https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/dassault-lobbies-esa-to-fund-its-vortex-reusable-mini-shuttle/#comment-1612199 Fri, 25 Jul 2025 17:26:24 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=115817#comment-1612199 How about if they just buy Dream Chaser and save all that money?

Its set for its first flight this year or next, it would take Dassault at least 5 years if not more to reach that goal.

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