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		By: DougSpace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DougSpace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-98037&quot;&gt;joe&lt;/a&gt;.

Solar particle events are way more than a few extra x-rays.  In fact, Apollo was lucky to miss an event in 1972 which would have been immediately lethal had the crew been out on an EVA.

None-the-less, a storm shelter is entirely feasible.  I haven&#039;t been able to track down the real numbers but it seems like a shelter surrounded with 10 cm of your water, food, and waste should be sufficient protection.

GCRs are the real issue, but it is looking to me like you would need about 7 tonnes of shielding (food, water, waste, equipment, &#038; polyethylene) to bring one&#039;s cancer risk down to 4%.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-98037">joe</a>.</p>
<p>Solar particle events are way more than a few extra x-rays.  In fact, Apollo was lucky to miss an event in 1972 which would have been immediately lethal had the crew been out on an EVA.</p>
<p>None-the-less, a storm shelter is entirely feasible.  I haven&#8217;t been able to track down the real numbers but it seems like a shelter surrounded with 10 cm of your water, food, and waste should be sufficient protection.</p>
<p>GCRs are the real issue, but it is looking to me like you would need about 7 tonnes of shielding (food, water, waste, equipment, &amp; polyethylene) to bring one&#8217;s cancer risk down to 4%.</p>
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		By: wodun		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 08:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-97999&quot;&gt;DougSpace&lt;/a&gt;.

Yup, according to the article, astronauts would receive nearly the career cap on what NASA considers a safe exposure to radiation on the journey. Although, is a 5% greater chance to get cancer that big a deal?

Seems like everyone gets cancer if they live long enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-97999">DougSpace</a>.</p>
<p>Yup, according to the article, astronauts would receive nearly the career cap on what NASA considers a safe exposure to radiation on the journey. Although, is a 5% greater chance to get cancer that big a deal?</p>
<p>Seems like everyone gets cancer if they live long enough.</p>
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		By: joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 05:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-98034&quot;&gt;Blair Ivey&lt;/a&gt;.

What&#039;s a few extra x-rays going to hurt!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-98034">Blair Ivey</a>.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s a few extra x-rays going to hurt!</p>
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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 04:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Still going to need &#039;storm shelters&#039; on ships and ground installations for those times when the Sun gets a bit techy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still going to need &#8216;storm shelters&#8217; on ships and ground installations for those times when the Sun gets a bit techy.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 00:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-97999&quot;&gt;DougSpace&lt;/a&gt;.

I see these data points as good news, even those that tell us that we need more or heavier shielding or that bone loss or eye damage may occur.  

The more data points that we collect the better will be our designs to protect our spacefaring crews.  Improving safety in space is going to be a long-term mission, with many lessons learned the hard way.  The more that we learn before sending crews into harm’s way the better off those crews will be.  

Creative solutions such as tethered spinning will go a long way toward solving the problems that we now know and the problems that we will discover as we explore the solar system in person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-97999">DougSpace</a>.</p>
<p>I see these data points as good news, even those that tell us that we need more or heavier shielding or that bone loss or eye damage may occur.  </p>
<p>The more data points that we collect the better will be our designs to protect our spacefaring crews.  Improving safety in space is going to be a long-term mission, with many lessons learned the hard way.  The more that we learn before sending crews into harm’s way the better off those crews will be.  </p>
<p>Creative solutions such as tethered spinning will go a long way toward solving the problems that we now know and the problems that we will discover as we explore the solar system in person.</p>
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		By: DougSpace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DougSpace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that a careful reading of the news article does not necessarily result in the conclusion that the GCR problem is now solved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a careful reading of the news article does not necessarily result in the conclusion that the GCR problem is now solved.</p>
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		By: Patrick Ritchie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Ritchie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-97997&quot;&gt;DougSpace&lt;/a&gt;.

I very much hope so!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/data-from-an-experiment-on-lunar-reconnaissance-orbiter-has-confirmed-that-light-plastics-can-provide-sufficient-protection-for-humans-against-radiation/#comment-97997">DougSpace</a>.</p>
<p>I very much hope so!</p>
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		By: DougSpace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DougSpace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two words: Tethered spinning.]]></description>
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		By: Patrick Ritchie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Ritchie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good news indeed!

Hopefully the nanoracks centrifuge can pave the way to a larger experiment where we can identify if some level of artificial gravity can address bone loss and vision problems. 

Or perhaps G-Lab will get off the ground and provide us some data.

http://ssi.org/2012/04/ssi-update-april-2012-introduction-to-g-lab/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news indeed!</p>
<p>Hopefully the nanoracks centrifuge can pave the way to a larger experiment where we can identify if some level of artificial gravity can address bone loss and vision problems. </p>
<p>Or perhaps G-Lab will get off the ground and provide us some data.</p>
<p><a href="http://ssi.org/2012/04/ssi-update-april-2012-introduction-to-g-lab/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ssi.org/2012/04/ssi-update-april-2012-introduction-to-g-lab/</a></p>
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