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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2024 02:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeff Wright, 
You wrote: &quot;&lt;em&gt;Another reason I liked Buran.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; 

You were expecting Buran to break up during reentry?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Wright,<br />
You wrote: &#8220;<em>Another reason I liked Buran.</em>&#8221; </p>
<p>You were expecting Buran to break up during reentry?</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2024 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The most dangerous bits of space junk were Columbia’s powerheads that hit at Mach 2:
https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3396/1

Another reason I liked Buran.

Don’t know about Starship Raptor powerheads—lighter but more of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most dangerous bits of space junk were Columbia’s powerheads that hit at Mach 2:<br />
<a href="https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3396/1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3396/1</a></p>
<p>Another reason I liked Buran.</p>
<p>Don’t know about Starship Raptor powerheads—lighter but more of them.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 02:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I may have 99 problems but space junk crashing through my house isn&#039;t one of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have 99 problems but space junk crashing through my house isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		By: Steve Richter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Richter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 02:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The media ( and democrat party ) would have a field day if space junk that was attributed to SpaceX crashed through someone&#039;s roof.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media ( and democrat party ) would have a field day if space junk that was attributed to SpaceX crashed through someone&#8217;s roof.</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 01:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Under the Outer Space Treaty, the responsibility for damages caused by space debris lies with the nation that launched it.  Remember that the treaty was conceived during the 1960s when the two superpowers were so far and away beyond even the other industrial powers in space capability that other countries hardly entered into it.  The type of international cooperation represented by the ISS was at best an afterthought and private or commercial space not a thought at all.

So from a technical standpoint, to determine liability for the damage it must be determined what debris caused the damage.  If it was the battery carrier launched by Japan, then Japan is technically responsible for the damage.  But if it was the batteries on the carrier that caused the damage, then it is America who is responsible.

When launched, the cargo carrier launched by Japan contained American replacement batteries for the American truss segment on the ISS.  Those batteries are now on the station.  The batteries that re-entered are the old batteries originally launched on the truss segment by the Space Shuttle.  Thus America is the responsible launching nation for them.

Having said that, as an American taxpayer, I’m OK with NASA assuming responsibility for the damage caused by the debris regardless whether the damage was caused by the batteries or the carrier.  They were American batteries on an American carrier that was only launched by Japan as part of a capabilities swap in the ISS agreement.  It was NASA, not Japan, that threw the carrier overboard for an uncontrolled re-entry.  It seems to me that if someone has to pay for our own bad decision, it should be us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under the Outer Space Treaty, the responsibility for damages caused by space debris lies with the nation that launched it.  Remember that the treaty was conceived during the 1960s when the two superpowers were so far and away beyond even the other industrial powers in space capability that other countries hardly entered into it.  The type of international cooperation represented by the ISS was at best an afterthought and private or commercial space not a thought at all.</p>
<p>So from a technical standpoint, to determine liability for the damage it must be determined what debris caused the damage.  If it was the battery carrier launched by Japan, then Japan is technically responsible for the damage.  But if it was the batteries on the carrier that caused the damage, then it is America who is responsible.</p>
<p>When launched, the cargo carrier launched by Japan contained American replacement batteries for the American truss segment on the ISS.  Those batteries are now on the station.  The batteries that re-entered are the old batteries originally launched on the truss segment by the Space Shuttle.  Thus America is the responsible launching nation for them.</p>
<p>Having said that, as an American taxpayer, I’m OK with NASA assuming responsibility for the damage caused by the debris regardless whether the damage was caused by the batteries or the carrier.  They were American batteries on an American carrier that was only launched by Japan as part of a capabilities swap in the ISS agreement.  It was NASA, not Japan, that threw the carrier overboard for an uncontrolled re-entry.  It seems to me that if someone has to pay for our own bad decision, it should be us.</p>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 00:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The best way would be for all ISS participants give according to their investment in the station.

Granted Russia will never pay and anyone other than GB or Japan is a big question also,

So just let NASA or our state department pay for it and be done with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way would be for all ISS participants give according to their investment in the station.</p>
<p>Granted Russia will never pay and anyone other than GB or Japan is a big question also,</p>
<p>So just let NASA or our state department pay for it and be done with it.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 20:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/de-orbiting-debris-from-iss-hits-a-house-in-florida/#comment-1455117&quot;&gt;Jhon B&lt;/a&gt;.

Jhon B: I have deleted the obvious obscenity from your comment. Leaving out a few letters doesn&#039;t cut it, when it is very clear the curse you want to express.

Why do people constantly wish to debase themselves in this way? Or do you wish to join the mass of stupidity that is taking us down to a new dark age?

I demand civilized adult behavior here. Do it again and I will suspend you for a week.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/de-orbiting-debris-from-iss-hits-a-house-in-florida/#comment-1455117">Jhon B</a>.</p>
<p>Jhon B: I have deleted the obvious obscenity from your comment. Leaving out a few letters doesn&#8217;t cut it, when it is very clear the curse you want to express.</p>
<p>Why do people constantly wish to debase themselves in this way? Or do you wish to join the mass of stupidity that is taking us down to a new dark age?</p>
<p>I demand civilized adult behavior here. Do it again and I will suspend you for a week.</p>
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		By: Jhon B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jhon B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 20:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With the billions NASA,  blows, why [deleted] don&#039;t they just cut a check and let this guy get on with his life. 
And while there at it, they best make sure this does not happen again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the billions NASA,  blows, why [deleted] don&#8217;t they just cut a check and let this guy get on with his life.<br />
And while there at it, they best make sure this does not happen again.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 19:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/de-orbiting-debris-from-iss-hits-a-house-in-florida/#comment-1455110&quot;&gt;Andi&lt;/a&gt;.

Andi: That&#039;s exactly what NASA is, exactly like China. It is a government operation that thinks it is a power unto itself. Under that mental framework, things like this can happen all the time, and do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/de-orbiting-debris-from-iss-hits-a-house-in-florida/#comment-1455110">Andi</a>.</p>
<p>Andi: That&#8217;s exactly what NASA is, exactly like China. It is a government operation that thinks it is a power unto itself. Under that mental framework, things like this can happen all the time, and do.</p>
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		By: Andi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 19:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, who does NASA think they are, China?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, who does NASA think they are, China?</p>
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		By: David Eastman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Eastman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 18:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Never attribute to malice that which is easily explained by stupidity or incompetence. Most likely his attempts to contact NASA were only reaching low level public relations functionaries that didn&#039;t take him seriously, and it never reached anyone high enough to actually consider whether this was an actual space debris incident until the news started reporting on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never attribute to malice that which is easily explained by stupidity or incompetence. Most likely his attempts to contact NASA were only reaching low level public relations functionaries that didn&#8217;t take him seriously, and it never reached anyone high enough to actually consider whether this was an actual space debris incident until the news started reporting on it.</p>
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		By: David Ross		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any reasonable court or arbitration-committee must interpret this Treaty to refer to the &lt;i&gt;last&lt;/i&gt; launcher, and that would be the good ol&#039; US of A. Imagine even trying to pin this on Japan. They&#039;ll be able to hear the laughter from Saturn.
And NASA know it, which is why they attempted to blow Otero off. They hoped all this would go away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any reasonable court or arbitration-committee must interpret this Treaty to refer to the <i>last</i> launcher, and that would be the good ol&#8217; US of A. Imagine even trying to pin this on Japan. They&#8217;ll be able to hear the laughter from Saturn.<br />
And NASA know it, which is why they attempted to blow Otero off. They hoped all this would go away.</p>
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