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		By: mkent		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;”Companies may soon develop that do not launch rockets, operate spacecraft, or build the hardware that accomplishes these actions, and yet these companies, independent of the space hardware, may be just as depended upon the space hardware as Amazon depends upon the internet’s hardware.”&lt;/i&gt;

We call these companies “cable companies.”  They’ve been around since the 1970s.

That doesn’t invalidate your overall point.  It just points out that the trend has been building for quite a long time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>”Companies may soon develop that do not launch rockets, operate spacecraft, or build the hardware that accomplishes these actions, and yet these companies, independent of the space hardware, may be just as depended upon the space hardware as Amazon depends upon the internet’s hardware.”</i></p>
<p>We call these companies “cable companies.”  They’ve been around since the 1970s.</p>
<p>That doesn’t invalidate your overall point.  It just points out that the trend has been building for quite a long time.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 01:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Will Jared be beaten down in DC to the point where his enthusiasm is eaten alive?]]></description>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the Space News article (unfortunately, a word-for-word reprint of their customer&#039;s press release) about the The Commercial Space Federation (CSF):
&lt;blockquote&gt;The U.S. Government must rely to the maximum practicable extent on the domestic commercial space industry, integrating and incentivizing commercial solutions instead of building their own.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The CSF also favors competition and fixed-price contracts.  

This matches Robert&#039;s Capitalism in Space philosophy ( https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/capitalism-in-space-private-enterprise-and-competition-reshape-the-global-aerospace-launch-industry/  ).  We would expect commercial space companies to favor this philosophy, but the fixed-price contract concept deviates from the standard operating procedure (SOP) that the government has been using over the past three-quarters of a century.  Companies working to the &quot;cost-plus&quot; SOP have done very well, but the rest of America has suffered from a high cost of space exploration and a slow development in space, and non-governmental space exploration and development has been almost completely locked out.  

Over the past two decades, there has been a movement toward the less expensive fixed-price contracts, and the results have been threefold.  1) Lower launch costs with launch companies around the world scrambling to offer the lowest cost to orbit.  2) an expansion to hundreds of companies competing to get into the space business. 3) new benefits for the populace of the Earth that governments were never willing to offer.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;This rebrand signifies the organization’s diverse membership and commitment to effectively representing the entire commercial space industry.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When the World Wide Web was new and the decision had been made to allow commerce to happen over the network (yes, there was a brief controversy over that subject), someone pointed out that the internet industry had expanded to more than just the companies that manufactured and operated the equipment that makes up the internet.  It also included the companies that did business over the internet.  They were internet businesses.  Examples include Amazon, E-Bay, and Pay Pal.  These companies are part of the internet industry, independent of the internet infrastructure and yet completely dependent upon the internet infrastructure.  

This could happen in the commercial space industry.  Companies may soon develop that do not launch rockets, operate spacecraft, or build the hardware that accomplishes these actions, and yet these companies, independent of the space hardware, may be just as depended upon the space hardware as Amazon depends upon the internet&#039;s hardware.  

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wayne wrote: &quot;&lt;em&gt;In Michigan, we also have Hell, Christmas, and Paradise.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; 

California had a Paradise, too, but it had burned down in a forest fire.  

California was a paradise, but it was burned down in a Democrat fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Space News article (unfortunately, a word-for-word reprint of their customer&#8217;s press release) about the The Commercial Space Federation (CSF):</p>
<blockquote><p>The U.S. Government must rely to the maximum practicable extent on the domestic commercial space industry, integrating and incentivizing commercial solutions instead of building their own.</p></blockquote>
<p>The CSF also favors competition and fixed-price contracts.  </p>
<p>This matches Robert&#8217;s Capitalism in Space philosophy ( <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/capitalism-in-space-private-enterprise-and-competition-reshape-the-global-aerospace-launch-industry/" rel="ugc">https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/capitalism-in-space-private-enterprise-and-competition-reshape-the-global-aerospace-launch-industry/</a>  ).  We would expect commercial space companies to favor this philosophy, but the fixed-price contract concept deviates from the standard operating procedure (SOP) that the government has been using over the past three-quarters of a century.  Companies working to the &#8220;cost-plus&#8221; SOP have done very well, but the rest of America has suffered from a high cost of space exploration and a slow development in space, and non-governmental space exploration and development has been almost completely locked out.  </p>
<p>Over the past two decades, there has been a movement toward the less expensive fixed-price contracts, and the results have been threefold.  1) Lower launch costs with launch companies around the world scrambling to offer the lowest cost to orbit.  2) an expansion to hundreds of companies competing to get into the space business. 3) new benefits for the populace of the Earth that governments were never willing to offer.  </p>
<blockquote><p>This rebrand signifies the organization’s diverse membership and commitment to effectively representing the entire commercial space industry.</p></blockquote>
<p>When the World Wide Web was new and the decision had been made to allow commerce to happen over the network (yes, there was a brief controversy over that subject), someone pointed out that the internet industry had expanded to more than just the companies that manufactured and operated the equipment that makes up the internet.  It also included the companies that did business over the internet.  They were internet businesses.  Examples include Amazon, E-Bay, and Pay Pal.  These companies are part of the internet industry, independent of the internet infrastructure and yet completely dependent upon the internet infrastructure.  </p>
<p>This could happen in the commercial space industry.  Companies may soon develop that do not launch rockets, operate spacecraft, or build the hardware that accomplishes these actions, and yet these companies, independent of the space hardware, may be just as depended upon the space hardware as Amazon depends upon the internet&#8217;s hardware.  </p>
<p>_____________<br />
wayne wrote: &#8220;<em>In Michigan, we also have Hell, Christmas, and Paradise.</em>&#8221; </p>
<p>California had a Paradise, too, but it had burned down in a forest fire.  </p>
<p>California was a paradise, but it was burned down in a Democrat fire.</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 16:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jared just tweeted out a statement a few seconds ago:

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1864346915183157636]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared just tweeted out a statement a few seconds ago:</p>
<p><a href="https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1864346915183157636" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1864346915183157636</a></p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 16:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/december-3-2024-quick-space-links/#comment-1534674&quot;&gt;Richard M&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard M: This is BIG news indeed. Isaacman is already running his own private space program, using SpaceX rockets and capsules, with a desire as well to fly a privately funded repair mission to Hubble. He will certainly not be enthused about SLS, and will without doubt force major changes within NASA.

I will be posting this as a full post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/december-3-2024-quick-space-links/#comment-1534674">Richard M</a>.</p>
<p>Richard M: This is BIG news indeed. Isaacman is already running his own private space program, using SpaceX rockets and capsules, with a desire as well to fly a privately funded repair mission to Hubble. He will certainly not be enthused about SLS, and will without doubt force major changes within NASA.</p>
<p>I will be posting this as a full post.</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 16:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow. I can hardly believe this. But it seems to be legitimate. Jared Isaacman is President-elect Trump&#039;s choice for the next NASA administrator, per a post on Trump&#039;s Truth Social account. 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113595378122687080

Greg Autry: &quot;Congratulations to @rookisaacman, being selected by Donald Trump as NASA Administrator. I had an amazing fireside chat with Jared last year. He is exactly what the agency needs!&quot;

No reaction from Elon yet, but you have to think that he had a *considerable* input into this decision.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I can hardly believe this. But it seems to be legitimate. Jared Isaacman is President-elect Trump&#8217;s choice for the next NASA administrator, per a post on Trump&#8217;s Truth Social account. </p>
<p><a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113595378122687080" rel="nofollow ugc">https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113595378122687080</a></p>
<p>Greg Autry: &#8220;Congratulations to @rookisaacman, being selected by Donald Trump as NASA Administrator. I had an amazing fireside chat with Jared last year. He is exactly what the agency needs!&#8221;</p>
<p>No reaction from Elon yet, but you have to think that he had a *considerable* input into this decision.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 15:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson--

You might like this guy, he does history videos of Michigan

https://www.youtube.com/@RestlessViking/videos]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Eagleson&#8211;</p>
<p>You might like this guy, he does history videos of Michigan</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RestlessViking/videos" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/@RestlessViking/videos</a></p>
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		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 07:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blair &#038; wayne,

As a Michigander by birth, I have long been familiar with Hell, MI but will also confess to ignorance of the existence of a &quot;sister city&quot; in Norway.  Considering the percentage of my hometown&#039;s population that was of Norwegian extraction I must count myself considerably chagrined on that score.

Re: Commercial Space Federation

The renaming and reorganization both seem to be good steps toward raising the CSF&#039;s profile in Congress but what is &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; going to do that is its establishment of a PAC.   Nothing draws the Congresscritters quite so much as the smell of money.

Re: European noise about Reusable Super Heavy Lift rockets

According to the linked story, the call for proposals has been published, then withdrawn, in different versions twice in as many months.  More of the typical European dithering and bureaucratic foot-shooting it seems.

Also noteworthy was the reported restriction on responses to only firms HQ&#039;d in Belgium, Switzerland, France, Spain and Italy.  The latter three all have launch vehicle builders, to be sure, but the first two do not - at least not to my knowledge.  And the omission of Germany from the list - which has several launch vehicle companies - can only be regarded as passing strange.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blair &amp; wayne,</p>
<p>As a Michigander by birth, I have long been familiar with Hell, MI but will also confess to ignorance of the existence of a &#8220;sister city&#8221; in Norway.  Considering the percentage of my hometown&#8217;s population that was of Norwegian extraction I must count myself considerably chagrined on that score.</p>
<p>Re: Commercial Space Federation</p>
<p>The renaming and reorganization both seem to be good steps toward raising the CSF&#8217;s profile in Congress but what is <i>really</i> going to do that is its establishment of a PAC.   Nothing draws the Congresscritters quite so much as the smell of money.</p>
<p>Re: European noise about Reusable Super Heavy Lift rockets</p>
<p>According to the linked story, the call for proposals has been published, then withdrawn, in different versions twice in as many months.  More of the typical European dithering and bureaucratic foot-shooting it seems.</p>
<p>Also noteworthy was the reported restriction on responses to only firms HQ&#8217;d in Belgium, Switzerland, France, Spain and Italy.  The latter three all have launch vehicle builders, to be sure, but the first two do not &#8211; at least not to my knowledge.  And the omission of Germany from the list &#8211; which has several launch vehicle companies &#8211; can only be regarded as passing strange.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 02:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blair-
I was not aware of Hell, Norway.

In Michigan, we also have Hell, Christmas, and Paradise. 
Currently, it&#039;s colder than Hell in both Paradise and Christmas.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/hell/48169/weather-forecast/2211114]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blair-<br />
I was not aware of Hell, Norway.</p>
<p>In Michigan, we also have Hell, Christmas, and Paradise.<br />
Currently, it&#8217;s colder than Hell in both Paradise and Christmas.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/hell/48169/weather-forecast/2211114" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/hell/48169/weather-forecast/2211114</a></p>
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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 01:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.lifeinnorway.net/hell-norway/

Check the weather forecast for this Saturday.]]></description>
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<p>Check the weather forecast for this Saturday.</p>
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