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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2025 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[India and Russia just announced their agreement to place their next stations in the same orbit so as to facilitate easy transfers between their stations in orbit.

My real idea for this is that Russia is looking for another nation that might actually make their launches for them. The excuse of placing them in the same orbit is just cover.
They must be planing on not having launch facilities available inside Russia.

Its also a nice way of not paying rent or having to pay for maintenance and infrastructure updates. Let India do it instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India and Russia just announced their agreement to place their next stations in the same orbit so as to facilitate easy transfers between their stations in orbit.</p>
<p>My real idea for this is that Russia is looking for another nation that might actually make their launches for them. The excuse of placing them in the same orbit is just cover.<br />
They must be planing on not having launch facilities available inside Russia.</p>
<p>Its also a nice way of not paying rent or having to pay for maintenance and infrastructure updates. Let India do it instead.</p>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2025 05:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder what the exact deal is for those engine designs? Does it include some of the construction equipment and tooling?

Was it all cash, an agreement for India to keep making a few for Russia, An agreement to keep buying oil from Russia as part of the deal?

I am not mad at India for accepting this deal. They might have perfectly fine rocket engines but The proven designs of Russia are valuable.  Can India freely sell those engines to other nations without Russian permission?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what the exact deal is for those engine designs? Does it include some of the construction equipment and tooling?</p>
<p>Was it all cash, an agreement for India to keep making a few for Russia, An agreement to keep buying oil from Russia as part of the deal?</p>
<p>I am not mad at India for accepting this deal. They might have perfectly fine rocket engines but The proven designs of Russia are valuable.  Can India freely sell those engines to other nations without Russian permission?</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2025 18:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope so. China doesn&#039;t need their help any more.
RD-171 is the equal of F-1

RD-175 was to be even more powerful at 9,800 kN thrust as per the wiki on RD-170.

RD-180 was just RD-170 cut in half---and RD-191 an even weaker single nozzle deal.

All kerolox.

On A.I. and propulsion
https://phys.org/news/2025-11-ai-spacecraft-propulsion-efficient-nuclear.html
https://www.thespacereview.com/article/5105/1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so. China doesn&#8217;t need their help any more.<br />
RD-171 is the equal of F-1</p>
<p>RD-175 was to be even more powerful at 9,800 kN thrust as per the wiki on RD-170.</p>
<p>RD-180 was just RD-170 cut in half&#8212;and RD-191 an even weaker single nozzle deal.</p>
<p>All kerolox.</p>
<p>On A.I. and propulsion<br />
<a href="https://phys.org/news/2025-11-ai-spacecraft-propulsion-efficient-nuclear.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://phys.org/news/2025-11-ai-spacecraft-propulsion-efficient-nuclear.html</a><br />
<a href="https://www.thespacereview.com/article/5105/1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thespacereview.com/article/5105/1</a></p>
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		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2025 12:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The RD-191M is quite a new, modestly up-rated, model in the engine family based on the venerable RD-170 and including the RD-151, RD-180, RD-181, RD-191 and RD-193.  It is used in the Angara 5 variants.

Russia is apparently now willing to sell the complete design and manufacturing recipe of one of Roscosmos&#039;s crown jewels to at least one most-favored nation.  Had the Russo-Ukraine War not stretched Russia&#039;s finances to a near-breaking point I don&#039;t think this deal would ever have been done and certainly not on the terms the Indians apparently managed to demand.  Russia doubtless shopped its Energomash engines to the PRC also, but that nation would likely not have offered nearly as much for the IP as it already has a number of its own large kerolox engines in production.

One cannot but wonder whether talks aimed at securing comparable deals for other Russian space technologies are not already on-going between Russia and India.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RD-191M is quite a new, modestly up-rated, model in the engine family based on the venerable RD-170 and including the RD-151, RD-180, RD-181, RD-191 and RD-193.  It is used in the Angara 5 variants.</p>
<p>Russia is apparently now willing to sell the complete design and manufacturing recipe of one of Roscosmos&#8217;s crown jewels to at least one most-favored nation.  Had the Russo-Ukraine War not stretched Russia&#8217;s finances to a near-breaking point I don&#8217;t think this deal would ever have been done and certainly not on the terms the Indians apparently managed to demand.  Russia doubtless shopped its Energomash engines to the PRC also, but that nation would likely not have offered nearly as much for the IP as it already has a number of its own large kerolox engines in production.</p>
<p>One cannot but wonder whether talks aimed at securing comparable deals for other Russian space technologies are not already on-going between Russia and India.</p>
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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2025 06:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe the Pioneers, later supplemented by the Voyagers, really planted in the public mind that these weren&#039;t just lights in the sky, but real places we could go to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the Pioneers, later supplemented by the Voyagers, really planted in the public mind that these weren&#8217;t just lights in the sky, but real places we could go to.</p>
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