https://thehill.com/homenews/house/453090-pelosi-announces-house-resolution-to-condemn-trump-comments

Everyone understands Trumps point, Ohmar and company very unambiguously condemn everything American, and his comments about them to “Go Back Home”, improve things there and then coming back and tell everyone how its done because you really know nothing about what you speak. Especially for the likes of an ungrateful immigrant from Somalia who was rescued from her own plight. (What nerve, but this is America)

They all despise America as formulated.

And Trump’s comments force Pelosi who is in the middle of her own power struggle with these Leftist young Turks to identify with them and their un and anti American positions.

Trump the fisherman, keep casting. He will have them all even more insane then they are at the moment by 2020. The Democrats death spiral continues unabated.

Everyone is lying, except the Democrats and Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Peter Strzock, Brennan and Clapper and Joe Biden and anyone else that carries their water.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/02/nancy-pelosi-william-barr-lied-to-congress-1298314

Barr now represents such a threat to the Democrats because he appears determined to actually bring to justice those who have in fact abused their powers and attempted to take out the president. Now he must also be taken out in some way shape or form.

Either impeached and removed or discredited and sullied in some way to defang him.

Everyone is a liar, except any Democrat.

Its going to be a very interesting political season to say the least leading up to the 2020 election. Political warfare never before seen in Washington, ever. Why? Because of the level of desperation that now exists regarding the survival of the Democrat party.

Desperation makes for desperate acts, very dangerous.

commodude: Considering the number of typos my readers spot and correct me, I would be the last to complain about someone else’s mistakes.

https://www.dailycaller.com/2018/11/23/ocasio-cortez-climate-change-people-die/

Ocassio Cortez chooses the “People are going to die” if we do not (Plug in fear word, phrase or terminology or subject matter) political platform of manipulation to work from. It can be effective but it really is a junior and unsophisticated platform from which to spin your web.

Her and other millennial’s like her in America and their kind of “freedom” and “saving” of humanity can and will lead to only one of two places, a Venezuela or North Korea like America. (Talk about extreme fear terminology)

Q: Why are there no pets or toilet paper in either Venezuela or North Korea?

A: Because people utilizing Ocassio Cortezes political theory and understanding have become empowered in government and run things.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/11/the_education_of_ocasiocortez_she_now_supports_pelosi_for_speaker.html

She has already been bought off (Or sufficiently threatened) by the Democrat leadership. If you remember she was dead set against Pelosi reattaining the gavel. And now all of a sudden she supports her so she can demand that healthcare be a right of the people!

And she has sooo much more to give, she’s so young, she is going to be such a practical politician.

Nancy Pelosi hopes to become the new majority leader of the house and is in the process of using her being a woman as her primary qualification for that job.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/12/nancy-pelosi-speakership-984949

The Democrat leadership uses the logic that she can not be denied the position because it was a rush of female Democrat candidates becoming empowered in the last election that won the house and not giving her, Pelosi, the leadership would be an offence to their success. Just based on her being a woman!?

WHAT UNMITIGATED AND COUNTER INTUITIVE BIGOTED GALL! (But makes perfect sense from the perspective of the Democrat leadership and their, do as I say not as I do philosophy. And any Democrat voter that sanctions and agrees with this offensive and bigoted logic is a fraud.)

And it remains to be seen whether she will indeed be made the majority leader. Many of those women that have become politically empowered despise her white bread Liberal Democrat type leadership because of them are full blood Leftists who are there to replace her and push to the side lines and her into retirement.

Project Veritas has video of the NYC Democratic Election Commissioner explaining how they get people voting at multiple precincts. This is direct evidence, an actual admission, of voter fraud from the mouth of a Democratic Party bigwig. Despite the denials from Registrars of voters, we now know that fraud does happen in a systematic way as perpetrated by the Democratic Party.

As for global warming/climate change, we know that the Little Ice Age occurred and has been ending without human help. We also know that the Sahara Desert has been moving northward for millennia without human input. Climates change. We cannot stop it no matter what some politician turned carbon credit salesman may tell you.

My contention is the it is “reasonable” to assume given the organizations that we are speaking of that in these locations there are abuses, the logic of the situation indicates that its more than likely true. How much abuse exists is unknown to me but the people who promote such things present the logic to those who would do so and so I reasonable assume that they do. Let us not be naive.

We can do the investigations at a later date to establish the numbers related to who and how many have abused the system.

And my position on “climate change” is that the climate changes every minute of every day, your choice of terminology is sooo general so as to have no meaning, and that is as per design. But if you want to ask the question ” to what degree does human activity effect the earths climate and atmosphere” then you are asking a reasonable question on the road to finding an answer. I suspect that human activity has some effect on the climate, but to the extent that the “climate change” proponents believe. IMO the better and again, more reasonable, question is about pollution in general and its effects on the environment and the climate.

Please do not assume that I do not value actual facts and information but this subject of illegality and immigration is charged and is divisive and to certain extents it is reasonable to make assumptions in many situations.

Read anything from La Raza and you will understand better.

Why do you think that the criteria for establishing eligibility by the Left to vote in many states has been fought and lowered to a level where it is all made possible? Obama himself and many others covertly encourages it in his / their Leftist double speak, always riding the line of interpretation. Controlling the country in perpetuity through this agenda of flooding the country from the Lefts point of view is well understood and is underway.

This election and this subject perfectly illustrates the function of the electorial college. Never allow any Leftist argue that it be abandoned. Because upon that day that is the day where the two Leftist coasts run the rest of the country, which is plainly more reasonable and is more Conservative and American interests oriented.

Prove it? I do not have to prove it to know it is happening.

It not even something that is looked for.

It’s like saying there are no rocks under the sidewalk because no one has looked under the sidewalk. But you know there are rocks down there.

You, have always been “happy with Trump and his potential.”
:)
Some of us here, just worry about what that “potential” might be.
(Edward– you keep right on ranting!)

From what I know about that particular Carrier Plant; EPA Regulations were the biggie, followed by the cost of labor. (On a Corporate level, it’s EPA and general Corporate tax-rates.)
They sell this stuff worldwide and it’s a “global” company. Union workforce, highly mechanized, moderately dirty industrial process. Definitely skilled but not ultra-skilled, they are “good jobs,” but probably can be done cheaper, elsewhere.
I don’t know about wage-rates there. (Seems on the high-end, but that’s relative to my area in Michigan & we now have right-to-work.)
–The only number I’ve heard— “$7 million from the State,” to stay. Along with unspecified State regs being modified at some point in the future & whatever Fed regs they were promised would change.
It’s smacks heavily of Crony Corporatism.

I did see his Carrier speech and caught a few minutes tonight of his victory-tour remarks.
Sounds Corporatist to me!
He’s not Mussolini…but it sure sounds like Mussolini.

My general point is that there is a growing optimism after the demise of “The Obama years”, and that general feeling is due in part to Obama leaving very soon and the Trump effect. Trump in reality will have to be careful in how he maneuvers a cajoles those who are to be cajoled. He tends to get a bit loose and sappy when he speaks after a “win”. The masses, the Congress and Senate and the Supreme Court will have to help guide him and his loose speech. Its probably best to keep him under a hefty stress level in order to keep him thinking properly and speaking less.

He has yet to be worked by the other side of the equation. I have had several conversations about the Carrier situation and the powerful attractant of much cheaper labor and the legality of utilizing it just across the border. Its just a fact, its more costly to manufacture something in a first world more developed country than a third world relatively undeveloped country.

I think the discrepancy is between $26.00 here and $3.00 per hour there. I do not know how much even some deregulation or tax subsidies will effect such discrepancies, in the end CEO’s have a fiduciary responsibility to their share holders. Its up to the government to create proper incentives and disincentives to promote a general positive atmosphere for business, but there is a line.

In general I am happy with Trump and his potential, and more importantly I am happy that neither Hillary or Bernie will ever become the president.

And right on, with the Commerce Clause. If we could roll-back all those Supreme Court ruling’s, we would be infinitely better off. Practically every Federal intrusion into the States is predicated on some aspect of (wrongly decided, in my opinion) Commerce Clause law.
–Even to the point where not growing wheat, was ruled to be effecting interstate-commerce.

Prof Richard Epstein from Hoover has done a lot of good work on Commerce Clause stuff. (He appears on JBS quite regularly.)

Another huge reason is the interpretation of the Interstate Commerce Clause.

There have been other, less direct assaults on the power of the states, such as the way the legal drinking age of 21 was imposed, basically, “You [the states] can have any legal drinking age you’d like, but only states that make it 21 will qualify for federal highway funds.”

The rest of my rant explains in no uncertain terms that liberal and socialist policies have been proved to be wrong, but having bad policies does not make a candidate unqualified. It just makes him the worst president ever.

On the other hand, to use your apparent definition, I do not recall Sanders proposing huge tariffs on imports, and I do recall Trump saying that some of Clinton’s proposals were not far-left enough. Other proposals of Trump’s would likewise be terrible for America, should he choose to push for their enactment. Trump offers a very, very low bar for your apparent definition of qualification. My cat could do better than many of Trump’s proposals, and he has been dead for a few years.

Sometimes doing nothing, as my dead cat would have done had he been elected president, is a better solution than doing the wrong thing, which is the lesson from the Great Depression (GD) and from Obama’s Great Recession (OGR). One of the problems that “doing something” created was uncertainty within the business community. Not knowing what or when the next stupid government interference was hurt planning for virtually every company in America, during the GD OGR.

wayne,
Project Veritas recently described a kind of voter fraud — from the very mouths of the fraud organizers (e.g. the NYC Democratic Election Commissioner) — that has been known for decades. The 1940 movie “The Great McGinty” demonstrates a way to work it.

It sorta sounds “good,” on it’s superficial face, but Carrier [United Technologies] received cash & tax benefits from the State.

It’s pure Cronyism+ Corporatism with a hefty dose of 3rd-world Despotism, cloaked in “for the Country & the Workers.”
Straight out of the Progressive Playbook of FDR, hook, line, and sinker.

The President, (or the President-elect,) doesn’t have any “power” to call private individuals and “cut-deals” with them.

If he does this sorta stuff when he is the President, he’ll be (rightfully) impeached.

>I absentee voted this year but normally would have to present my driver’s-license (which they electronically swipe) & check if my name was on the voter-list. We use optical scanner & paper-ballot. (and the machines are not networked or on-line)
Had to present a birth-certificate to get my first drivers-license, but after that, registering to vote (even when I had moved between States)– was incredibly easy, probably too easy.

Fraud does exists. I tend to think it’s concentrated but sporadic and targeted to specific Congressional districts, primarily urban. (It’s just easier in those setting’s.)
It’s some percentage of the roughly 120 million votes cast, and we would probably be shocked.

Huge opponent of the 17th Amendment. Progressives sold it as “better democracy.” And they knew it was a key firewall they had to circumvent in order to dismantle our government.

I’ll say it again– who needs the Senate, if they aren’t responsible to their respective State legislatures?

Really? Seriously?

You really think Bernie Sanders, a Communist, is a better qualified candidate and is more qualified when the “excrement hits the fan” ?

That is a good way of phrasing it. It sounds better than my usual take: the states are no longer represented, which is why “unfunded mandates” were imposed upon them and why it took so long to get rid of them.

Garry wrote: “Perhaps that’s what’s kept better qualified candidates from running for president; nobody wants to be the one in power when the excrement hits the fan.”

The Republican Party had several well qualified candidates running during the primaries, but they were rejected. Even Bernie Sanders was a better qualified candidate, although I think his socialist ways would have been terrible for America.

When the stuff finally hits the fan, it will be important to have the right people in place to calm or ease the panic and to make the right decisions. It will be the difference between turning a recession into a depression, as happened in 1930 and 2008, vs. turning a recession into a recovery, as happened in 1921, 1961, and 1981.

wayne wrote: “yow, wrote a whole paragraph of brilliant prose and then clicked on the wrong browser-tab and lost it!”

I hate when that happens. Sometimes when I get long winded (do I ever not?), I move to Word and save often in order to prevent losing a good rant. Although I haven’t done it yet for this one. (Fingers crossed on not screwing up while clicking tabs.)

ken anthony wrote: “Then the arguments can be where they belong… reason instead of hysteria.”

Unfortunately, the way to reach most liberals and Democrats is not through reason (read: “reasonable dialog”) but through emotion. Otherwise, they would realize the obvious, such as that Keynesian Economics does not work.

Remember the phrase “but at what cost” when one tells you how much better is the liberal/socialist/communist/whatever way. (e.g. liberal says: “Canadian Healthcare is better than US healthcare.” I reply: “But it can literally cost you a leg!” Then link to Crowder’s YouTube on Canadian healthcare at the 10 minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw#t=614 )

This is also why Democrats are so terrible at getting us out of recessions and even at driving recessions into depressions (the current economic recovery is worse than the recovery during the Great Depression, but no one points this out). As Cotour kind of noted, “shovel ready” was an emotional phrase. All those “shovel ready” projects were ready because they had already been funded by other means, but no one noticed that logical fact. Then they spent at least $5,000 billion more than Bush did, yet are farther from a normal economy than Bush was. Unless you are willing to accept this terrible, continuing recession/depression as “the new normal.”

For some, hysteria works better than logic. This is why Pelosi is still Minority Leader. If the Democrats were logical, they would have thrown her out for a better leader, but they are not using reason, they are using emotion. Even if they realize that she is a terrible choice, they have kept her on for emotional reasons.

I guess I should have saved this one to Word, after all.

The President didn’t help perception with his interview on “voting myths” in which the (selectively edited) video appears to show him encouraging illegals to vote. I was outraged when I first saw the video, and later suspected it had been heavily edited, which it was. However, if you read the full transcript (available here http://hotair.com/archives/2016/11/07/video-obama-encouraging-illegal-immigrants-vote/) you’ll see that he gave an ambiguous answer; as mentioned at the link, he should have emphatically stated that illegals can’t vote.

The link discusses other stories of fraud as well.

I’ve seen credible allegations of illegal votes; one person who worked in an Alzheimer’s center told me that the center would receive absentee ballots for its patients and fill in the ballots, usually without the patient’s or his/her family’s knowledge.

My state requires a photo id to vote, but I can’t remember what proof of citizenship I had to present to register to vote in the first place.

My experience with government is that rogue “public servants” often break the rules (even when the rules are adequate), and I would be surprised if there isn’t widespread fraud in some localities.

There’s not enough proof available to say that millions voted illegally, but there’s not enough proof to disprove it, either. I would love to see a serious attempt to uncover the truth.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/01/politics/kfile-keith-ellison-nation-of-islam/index.html

Yes, give them all nice, shinny new shovels to dig their hole deep and deeper still. If Trump can keep it all together he has the opportunity to ensure they will never again have any kind of real power in America.

Yeah, Obama has “shovel ready” projects, apparently its to dig their own political graves.

I say good riddance!

Trump has not even been installed and he has a general optimistic feeling going on AND he is making positive consequential deals to boot. He has done more waiting to become president for the workers at Carrier then Obama has accomplished in 8 years!

“I want the people of America to be able to work less for the government, and more for themselves. I want them to have the rewards of their own industry. This is the chief meaning of freedom. Until we can re-establish a condition under which the earning’s of the people, can be kept by the people, we are bound to suffer a very severe and distinct curtailment of our liberty.”
Calvin Coolidge.