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		By: Edward		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/environmental-activists-to-build-methane-detecting-satellite/#comment-1047893</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As Max noted, the article says: &quot;&lt;i&gt;&#039;We need good solid data so that we really can support global action on climate change, and we’ve got to do it fast,&#039; says Steven Hamburg, the EDF’s chief scientist.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;  

This shows that when it comes to climate science, people are in a panic.  But then again, when you lack good solid data to support the desired global action, what else is there to do?  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKaQLYPf5hM#t=109]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Max noted, the article says: &#8220;<i>&#8216;We need good solid data so that we really can support global action on climate change, and we’ve got to do it fast,&#8217; says Steven Hamburg, the EDF’s chief scientist.</i>&#8221;  </p>
<p>This shows that when it comes to climate science, people are in a panic.  But then again, when you lack good solid data to support the desired global action, what else is there to do?<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKaQLYPf5hM#t=109" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKaQLYPf5hM#t=109</a></p>
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		By: MarcusZ1967		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/environmental-activists-to-build-methane-detecting-satellite/#comment-1047855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarcusZ1967]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 18:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This might also turn out like NASA&#039;s OCO-2 satellite.

http://euanmearns.com/co2-the-view-from-space/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might also turn out like NASA&#8217;s OCO-2 satellite.</p>
<p><a href="http://euanmearns.com/co2-the-view-from-space/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://euanmearns.com/co2-the-view-from-space/</a></p>
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		By: Max		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/environmental-activists-to-build-methane-detecting-satellite/#comment-1047837</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“We need good solid data so that we really can support global action on climate change, and we’ve got to do it fast,” 
    This state statement leads me to believe that the satellite has been pre-programmed with some very damning information which will allow them to get government funding and political clout to pass laws against their perceived enemies, taxing Energy producers and consumers with a vengeance because they have &quot;to support global action&quot; and &quot;do it fast!&quot;  After all, it&#039;s taken 16,000 years, since the last Ice Age, to develop our climate to be where it is now. There is no time to waste. 

    Would it not cost a lot less to buy the information from other satellites already in space? 
http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2017/10/17/innovative-satellite-launched-for-monitoring-global-methane-and-air-quality/

https://www.satelytics.com/resources/2017-infographic-detecting-methane-leaks-using-satellite-imagery-and-satelytics/

http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2017/10/02/nasa-helped-locate-over-300-methane-hot-spots-across-california/

https://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-5P/Tropomi

 It would appear that they have their own agenda, they have a solution that needs a problem to solve. 
     Methane has no correlation with climate change or even weather change. At  1.8 ppm, it is one of the rarest gases in our atmosphere.  It is 222 times less abundant than CO2. Four times less abundant than helium.
     To make understanding of parts per million easier, think of $1 million dollars. That&#039;s 100 stacks of $100 dollar bills, 100 bills high. Carbon dioxide, at 400 ppm, would be 4 bills off one stack…  methane would be 1 dollar and .80 cents!
    (by the way, cows cannot make methane, only anaerobic bacteria can. If cows did not eat hay and grass, the fields would die back in the winter and rot on the ground turning into methane anyway…)

    It is impossible for methane to last very long in the presence of oxygen. It quickly oxidizes and turns into carbon dioxide and water. Anyone who has cooked on a gas stove is familiar with its properties. Your local natural gas company can give you accurate information on how long it takes for methane to disappear.
    It has taken billions of years to reach 1.8 ppm, how many billions more will it take to reach 2 parts per million?  The methane controversy is the pinnacle of junk science.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We need good solid data so that we really can support global action on climate change, and we’ve got to do it fast,”<br />
    This state statement leads me to believe that the satellite has been pre-programmed with some very damning information which will allow them to get government funding and political clout to pass laws against their perceived enemies, taxing Energy producers and consumers with a vengeance because they have &#8220;to support global action&#8221; and &#8220;do it fast!&#8221;  After all, it&#8217;s taken 16,000 years, since the last Ice Age, to develop our climate to be where it is now. There is no time to waste. </p>
<p>    Would it not cost a lot less to buy the information from other satellites already in space?<br />
<a href="http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2017/10/17/innovative-satellite-launched-for-monitoring-global-methane-and-air-quality/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2017/10/17/innovative-satellite-launched-for-monitoring-global-methane-and-air-quality/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.satelytics.com/resources/2017-infographic-detecting-methane-leaks-using-satellite-imagery-and-satelytics/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.satelytics.com/resources/2017-infographic-detecting-methane-leaks-using-satellite-imagery-and-satelytics/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2017/10/02/nasa-helped-locate-over-300-methane-hot-spots-across-california/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2017/10/02/nasa-helped-locate-over-300-methane-hot-spots-across-california/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-5P/Tropomi" rel="nofollow ugc">https://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-5P/Tropomi</a></p>
<p> It would appear that they have their own agenda, they have a solution that needs a problem to solve.<br />
     Methane has no correlation with climate change or even weather change. At  1.8 ppm, it is one of the rarest gases in our atmosphere.  It is 222 times less abundant than CO2. Four times less abundant than helium.<br />
     To make understanding of parts per million easier, think of $1 million dollars. That&#8217;s 100 stacks of $100 dollar bills, 100 bills high. Carbon dioxide, at 400 ppm, would be 4 bills off one stack…  methane would be 1 dollar and .80 cents!<br />
    (by the way, cows cannot make methane, only anaerobic bacteria can. If cows did not eat hay and grass, the fields would die back in the winter and rot on the ground turning into methane anyway…)</p>
<p>    It is impossible for methane to last very long in the presence of oxygen. It quickly oxidizes and turns into carbon dioxide and water. Anyone who has cooked on a gas stove is familiar with its properties. Your local natural gas company can give you accurate information on how long it takes for methane to disappear.<br />
    It has taken billions of years to reach 1.8 ppm, how many billions more will it take to reach 2 parts per million?  The methane controversy is the pinnacle of junk science.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/environmental-activists-to-build-methane-detecting-satellite/#comment-1047741</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry - did not sign my name properly. Come to think on it change &quot;environmentally-correct&#039; to &#039;politically-correct&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; did not sign my name properly. Come to think on it change &#8220;environmentally-correct&#8217; to &#8216;politically-correct&#8217;</p>
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		By: m		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/environmental-activists-to-build-methane-detecting-satellite/#comment-1047740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin - I agree but where does one go to find environmentally-correct sensors?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8211; I agree but where does one go to find environmentally-correct sensors?</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/environmental-activists-to-build-methane-detecting-satellite/#comment-1047722</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 20:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/environmental-activists-to-build-methane-detecting-satellite/#comment-1047707&quot;&gt;MarcusZ1967&lt;/a&gt;.

MarcusZ1967: Good catch. I am posting on the main page, giving you a hat tip.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/environmental-activists-to-build-methane-detecting-satellite/#comment-1047707">MarcusZ1967</a>.</p>
<p>MarcusZ1967: Good catch. I am posting on the main page, giving you a hat tip.</p>
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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Kyle: That&#039;s funny. 

I support the use of private funds to realize large projects, no matter the ideological bent. The process of convincing others to buy in to an idea empowers the individual, rather than transferring that power to the State. It&#039;s the idea the United States was founded on, and we need more of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kyle: That&#8217;s funny. </p>
<p>I support the use of private funds to realize large projects, no matter the ideological bent. The process of convincing others to buy in to an idea empowers the individual, rather than transferring that power to the State. It&#8217;s the idea the United States was founded on, and we need more of it.</p>
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		By: Kyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hopefully they use a Soyuz rocket to launch it and a Northrop Grumman fairing to hold it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully they use a Soyuz rocket to launch it and a Northrop Grumman fairing to hold it.</p>
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		By: MarcusZ1967		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarcusZ1967]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I found this on phys.org. Interesting if you can get past their GHG statements.

https://phys.org/news/2018-04-biologically-membrane-purges-coal-fired-greenhouse.html 

Particularly, the last paragraph is very exciting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this on phys.org. Interesting if you can get past their GHG statements.</p>
<p><a href="https://phys.org/news/2018-04-biologically-membrane-purges-coal-fired-greenhouse.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://phys.org/news/2018-04-biologically-membrane-purges-coal-fired-greenhouse.html</a> </p>
<p>Particularly, the last paragraph is very exciting.</p>
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