Comments on: ESA successfully tests controlling a robot on Earth from orbit https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/esa-successfully-tests-controlling-a-robot-on-earth-from-orbit/ Fri, 22 Apr 2022 18:45:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: pawn https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/esa-successfully-tests-controlling-a-robot-on-earth-from-orbit/#comment-1315374 Fri, 22 Apr 2022 18:45:14 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=84138#comment-1315374 “Some the the posters are fairly clueless (it is the Internet, after all).”

Not just the internet. I had a NASA engineer tell me that we needed to increase the baud rate (the speed, as he understood it) because the Pad was a long way away.

Hey, they’re in charge. What can you say?

]]> By: markedup2 https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/esa-successfully-tests-controlling-a-robot-on-earth-from-orbit/#comment-1315356 Fri, 22 Apr 2022 16:51:49 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=84138#comment-1315356 Are the issues with remote drone piloting publicized anywhere?

The overall problem seems well known:
https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/21352/how-do-drones-overcome-latency

Some the the posters are fairly clueless (it is the Internet, after all).

]]> By: markedup2 https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/esa-successfully-tests-controlling-a-robot-on-earth-from-orbit/#comment-1315355 Fri, 22 Apr 2022 16:46:04 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=84138#comment-1315355 Of all odd places to learn about sensory latency, I was gobsmacked by my latency sensitivity in Rock Band. My eye (TV) and ear (stereo) “what’s going on?!?!” latency is about 30msec. If the two desynch by more than that, it’s confusing.

The game doesn’t let you adjust the physical feedback latency, but it would be interesting to test that, too. One supposes that with training, a person could get used to _some_ latency between action and result, but our proprioception systems are VERY old. It might require a great deal of training or natural talent at it.

Are the issues with remote drone piloting publicized anywhere or is it all classified? Round trip fiber latency from Chicago to London is non-trivial (~200msec, right now; dealing with the slow speed of light is part of my job). Satellite links are much worse and pale in comparison to Earth/Moon.

Still, a very cool experiment.

]]> By: Jeff Wright https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/esa-successfully-tests-controlling-a-robot-on-earth-from-orbit/#comment-1315274 Fri, 22 Apr 2022 05:37:39 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=84138#comment-1315274 If only we had an ansible for telepresense-use in waldo-work.

]]> By: David Ross https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/esa-successfully-tests-controlling-a-robot-on-earth-from-orbit/#comment-1315158 Thu, 21 Apr 2022 18:04:07 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=84138#comment-1315158 “a real planetary environment”
The planets and moons we got within 5.3 AU of our Sun, fit for orbit, share these characteristics: near-airless atmo, Mars or Moon g, covered in fine dust or snow powder, and baked with radiation. We’re ruling out using anything like this robot at, say, Venus.
Although Antarctica “right here” might be interesting to interact with, from orbit. High orbit for line-of-sight, methinks. Unless we’re okay with the delays from a polar orbit.

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