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	Comments on: ESA to rent SpaceX Dragon capsule to do a European manned mission to ISS	</title>
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		By: Doubting Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doubting Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2026 01:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Hare. You beat me too that comment. 

Boeing in real trouble]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Hare. You beat me too that comment. </p>
<p>Boeing in real trouble</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2026 00:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard M wrote: &quot;&lt;em&gt;I really never thought I’d see the ESA do this.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; 

I thought ESA would be an early adaptor of commercial manned spacecraft, but then I also thought, ten years ago, that the destination would be a Bigelow habitat rather than the ISS.  I also expect many governments to use commercial manned spacecraft for their own space programs.  Several of the world&#039;s governments have long had some form of space program and quite a few more created their own programs after NASA announced commercial manned spacecraft.  

Nations can save huge amounts of money when they don&#039;t have to develop their own manned spacecraft or their own launch vehicles.  All they have to do is rent space on a commercial space station and on the commercial spacecraft that gets them there.  Total cost: a few hundred million dollars per mission rather than developing and maintaining everything that goes into launch and that goes into the space stations.  Even landlocked countries can now have their own space programs, manned or otherwise.  

Commercial space: benefitting mankind all around the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard M wrote: &#8220;<em>I really never thought I’d see the ESA do this.</em>&#8221; </p>
<p>I thought ESA would be an early adaptor of commercial manned spacecraft, but then I also thought, ten years ago, that the destination would be a Bigelow habitat rather than the ISS.  I also expect many governments to use commercial manned spacecraft for their own space programs.  Several of the world&#8217;s governments have long had some form of space program and quite a few more created their own programs after NASA announced commercial manned spacecraft.  </p>
<p>Nations can save huge amounts of money when they don&#8217;t have to develop their own manned spacecraft or their own launch vehicles.  All they have to do is rent space on a commercial space station and on the commercial spacecraft that gets them there.  Total cost: a few hundred million dollars per mission rather than developing and maintaining everything that goes into launch and that goes into the space stations.  Even landlocked countries can now have their own space programs, manned or otherwise.  </p>
<p>Commercial space: benefitting mankind all around the world.</p>
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		By: john hare		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 23:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;Jerry Greenwood
March 20, 2026 at 10:36 am
They would have received a better deal from Boeing.&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;

Of course they would. One way is obviously cheaper than round trip.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;Jerry Greenwood<br />
March 20, 2026 at 10:36 am<br />
They would have received a better deal from Boeing.&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course they would. One way is obviously cheaper than round trip.</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 19:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boeing should bid to provide the capsule for an &quot;EU Leaders&#039; Grand Tour of Space&quot;.

Ps. A size-14 just dropped over at NASA. Someone figured out that SLS launching every two years, at a couple of billion dollars a pop, might not be affordable! Maybe use a different booster? Ya think?!

Next breakthrough question: can we find a way not to use 30-year old Orion technology? New Shepard - no. Blue Moon - no. Starliner - no.

Gosh, there must be a capsule...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boeing should bid to provide the capsule for an &#8220;EU Leaders&#8217; Grand Tour of Space&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ps. A size-14 just dropped over at NASA. Someone figured out that SLS launching every two years, at a couple of billion dollars a pop, might not be affordable! Maybe use a different booster? Ya think?!</p>
<p>Next breakthrough question: can we find a way not to use 30-year old Orion technology? New Shepard &#8211; no. Blue Moon &#8211; no. Starliner &#8211; no.</p>
<p>Gosh, there must be a capsule&#8230;</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 19:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really never thought I&#039;d see the ESA do this. But well done to Josef Aschbacher for making it happen.

A month-long mission will require more consumables, and presumably some of its own experiments. I wonder how the EPIC will address that? There really isn&#039;t much room in a Crew Dragon to bring up much in the way of additional supplies or gear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really never thought I&#8217;d see the ESA do this. But well done to Josef Aschbacher for making it happen.</p>
<p>A month-long mission will require more consumables, and presumably some of its own experiments. I wonder how the EPIC will address that? There really isn&#8217;t much room in a Crew Dragon to bring up much in the way of additional supplies or gear.</p>
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		By: Jerry Greenwood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry Greenwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 17:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They would have received a better deal from Boeing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They would have received a better deal from Boeing.</p>
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		By: Tony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 17:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope Elon charges them per mile and makes them return it with the tank full.  And no smoking or it&#039;s another $250.00]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Elon charges them per mile and makes them return it with the tank full.  And no smoking or it&#8217;s another $250.00</p>
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