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		By: wodun		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Kyle

 ...you would be wondering why enrollment isn’t expected to increase.&lt;/i&gt;

Yup. That was my thought.

&lt;i&gt;Thank God for Eastern Washington.&lt;/i&gt;

We are pretty purple over here and immigration thanks to legal weed and other reasons means we are getting more Democrats. That land use decision by the Supreme Court also forces people to live in built up areas, meaning that people who like a bit of land and some privacy might just move to Idaho or someplace else.

You should see the insanity of road diets, making rivers people, and restricting who gets to use public lands. A lot of people go for it though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Kyle</p>
<p> &#8230;you would be wondering why enrollment isn’t expected to increase.</i></p>
<p>Yup. That was my thought.</p>
<p><i>Thank God for Eastern Washington.</i></p>
<p>We are pretty purple over here and immigration thanks to legal weed and other reasons means we are getting more Democrats. That land use decision by the Supreme Court also forces people to live in built up areas, meaning that people who like a bit of land and some privacy might just move to Idaho or someplace else.</p>
<p>You should see the insanity of road diets, making rivers people, and restricting who gets to use public lands. A lot of people go for it though.</p>
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		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2018 22:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the Evergreen situation is actually a lot more dire than this report suggests.

The 20% reduction in &lt;i&gt;total&lt;/i&gt; enrollment will be disproportionately concentrated in the incoming freshman class.  If the previous year&#039;s total enrollment of 3,800 was equally divided across class levels, for example, that would make 850 in this year&#039;s freshman class.  Assuming no defections from the upper three classes, &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; year&#039;s freshman class would have to be a mere 150 to get to that overall enrollment number of 3,100.  That&#039;s a massive drop - over 80%.

In reality, the drop in year-to-year freshman class size is probably not this high as we already know there was a 5% enrollment decrease last year - again, most likely heavily concentrated in the incoming freshman class - so the current freshman class is almost certainly somewhat smaller than 850.  It&#039;s also very unlikely that at least some of the shrinking total enrollment won&#039;t be accounted for by current sophomores, juniors and seniors bailing out to complete their degrees elsewhere.

All that said, though, the drop in incoming freshman class size still seems quite likely to exceed 50% on top of last year&#039;s decline.  No wonder the college president chose to play a damage-control semantic and statistical game by only acknowledging the &lt;i&gt;total&lt;/i&gt; enrollment decline.  That&#039;s a scary number, but hardly as scary as the much larger actual percentage drop in incoming freshmen.  For a college or university this sort of sudden enrollment drop is a massive step along a short road to extinction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Evergreen situation is actually a lot more dire than this report suggests.</p>
<p>The 20% reduction in <i>total</i> enrollment will be disproportionately concentrated in the incoming freshman class.  If the previous year&#8217;s total enrollment of 3,800 was equally divided across class levels, for example, that would make 850 in this year&#8217;s freshman class.  Assuming no defections from the upper three classes, <i>this</i> year&#8217;s freshman class would have to be a mere 150 to get to that overall enrollment number of 3,100.  That&#8217;s a massive drop &#8211; over 80%.</p>
<p>In reality, the drop in year-to-year freshman class size is probably not this high as we already know there was a 5% enrollment decrease last year &#8211; again, most likely heavily concentrated in the incoming freshman class &#8211; so the current freshman class is almost certainly somewhat smaller than 850.  It&#8217;s also very unlikely that at least some of the shrinking total enrollment won&#8217;t be accounted for by current sophomores, juniors and seniors bailing out to complete their degrees elsewhere.</p>
<p>All that said, though, the drop in incoming freshman class size still seems quite likely to exceed 50% on top of last year&#8217;s decline.  No wonder the college president chose to play a damage-control semantic and statistical game by only acknowledging the <i>total</i> enrollment decline.  That&#8217;s a scary number, but hardly as scary as the much larger actual percentage drop in incoming freshmen.  For a college or university this sort of sudden enrollment drop is a massive step along a short road to extinction.</p>
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		By: DJN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2018 19:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The blue bubble is just getting bluer and bigger in Western Washington.  Can&#039;t wait to leave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blue bubble is just getting bluer and bigger in Western Washington.  Can&#8217;t wait to leave.</p>
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		By: Kyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Blair Ivery
Lets hope this blue bubble pops sometime soon and people come to their senses, I used to live in Portlandistan and don&#039;t want a progressive income tax to trickle up here.  Thank God for Eastern Washington.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Blair Ivery<br />
Lets hope this blue bubble pops sometime soon and people come to their senses, I used to live in Portlandistan and don&#8217;t want a progressive income tax to trickle up here.  Thank God for Eastern Washington.</p>
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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Kyle:

I lived in Seattle (currently reside in close proximity to Portlandistan), and the joke was that everyone went to Evergreen, but no one seemed to graduate. 20%? It&#039;s a start. I&#039;d hope Reed College in Portland would experience a similar decline, but it is deep inside the Blue bubble.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kyle:</p>
<p>I lived in Seattle (currently reside in close proximity to Portlandistan), and the joke was that everyone went to Evergreen, but no one seemed to graduate. 20%? It&#8217;s a start. I&#8217;d hope Reed College in Portland would experience a similar decline, but it is deep inside the Blue bubble.</p>
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		By: Kyle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you spend some time along the Portland/Olympia/Tacoma/Seattle/Everett/Bellingham corridor, almost anywhere west of the Cascade Mountains except for my town (Trump campaigned here during the primary) and a handful of other similar sized enclaves, you would be wondering why enrollment isn&#039;t expected to increase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you spend some time along the Portland/Olympia/Tacoma/Seattle/Everett/Bellingham corridor, almost anywhere west of the Cascade Mountains except for my town (Trump campaigned here during the primary) and a handful of other similar sized enclaves, you would be wondering why enrollment isn&#8217;t expected to increase.</p>
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