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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Saville

You broke the code.
The folks who scream the loudest about NASA being Old Space Pork don&#039;t want to admit that USSF is just NewSpace pork. (VCs being unreliable).Redstone Arsenal and THAAD aren&#039;t going anywhere.

Casey Handler, who I despise immensely, wanted to hurt my state. All that belly-aching did was to expose his JPL to the same blowtorch aimed at MSFC. He and Cowing&#039;s shouts did nothing but trigger an avalanche that will hurt they and theirs.

I couldn&#039;t be happier.

Over at America Space, Jim Hillhouse tried to get NewSpace and OldSpace to praise each other. Casey and his lot wouldn&#039;t play ball.

 I hope Trump kills Goddard and JPL both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Saville</p>
<p>You broke the code.<br />
The folks who scream the loudest about NASA being Old Space Pork don&#8217;t want to admit that USSF is just NewSpace pork. (VCs being unreliable).Redstone Arsenal and THAAD aren&#8217;t going anywhere.</p>
<p>Casey Handler, who I despise immensely, wanted to hurt my state. All that belly-aching did was to expose his JPL to the same blowtorch aimed at MSFC. He and Cowing&#8217;s shouts did nothing but trigger an avalanche that will hurt they and theirs.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t be happier.</p>
<p>Over at America Space, Jim Hillhouse tried to get NewSpace and OldSpace to praise each other. Casey and his lot wouldn&#8217;t play ball.</p>
<p> I hope Trump kills Goddard and JPL both.</p>
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		By: Gary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2025 21:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sort of off the subject, but sort of not, I have enjoyed reading “The Martians” by David Baron. It’s the story of Percival Lowell and his role in the Mars mania which was part of the turn of the century. Tells of Lowell, the beginnings of the observatory and how the story of the canals became accepted then discredited. I was surprised by the roles of people like Nikola Tesla, Edison and others.

https://a.co/d/6cEQEAZ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of off the subject, but sort of not, I have enjoyed reading “The Martians” by David Baron. It’s the story of Percival Lowell and his role in the Mars mania which was part of the turn of the century. Tells of Lowell, the beginnings of the observatory and how the story of the canals became accepted then discredited. I was surprised by the roles of people like Nikola Tesla, Edison and others.</p>
<p><a href="https://a.co/d/6cEQEAZ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://a.co/d/6cEQEAZ</a></p>
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		By: Milt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2025 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the 25th of last month, Lowell Observatory&#039;s director of science, Dr. Gerard van Belle was on Coast to Coast talking about the Perseverance mission and the search for life on Mars.  https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2025-09-25-show/ 

Say what you will, Lowell Observatory is so inextricably involved in the history of American astronomy that it would be a pity to see it fade from the scene.  As suggested, it needs some patrons, and hopefully they will appear.  The old model of conducting basic scientific research.

PS -- Listening to most of Dr. van Belle&#039;s presentation, I was a bit disappointed that relatively little was said about Lowell Observatory&#039;s actual history with respect to studying Mars.  Those who followed this research throughout the latter half of the 20th Century (and read about it&#039;s history before this) know that there is quite a story to be told, and William Sheehan does a commendable job in his book, The Planet Mars: A History of Observation and Discovery.  It&#039;s truly the &quot;rest of the story&quot; about our enduring fascination with the Red Planet, and it has gotten short shrift from the breathless young reporters of the Internet generation. 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv1zm2t25]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 25th of last month, Lowell Observatory&#8217;s director of science, Dr. Gerard van Belle was on Coast to Coast talking about the Perseverance mission and the search for life on Mars.  <a href="https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2025-09-25-show/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2025-09-25-show/</a> </p>
<p>Say what you will, Lowell Observatory is so inextricably involved in the history of American astronomy that it would be a pity to see it fade from the scene.  As suggested, it needs some patrons, and hopefully they will appear.  The old model of conducting basic scientific research.</p>
<p>PS &#8212; Listening to most of Dr. van Belle&#8217;s presentation, I was a bit disappointed that relatively little was said about Lowell Observatory&#8217;s actual history with respect to studying Mars.  Those who followed this research throughout the latter half of the 20th Century (and read about it&#8217;s history before this) know that there is quite a story to be told, and William Sheehan does a commendable job in his book, The Planet Mars: A History of Observation and Discovery.  It&#8217;s truly the &#8220;rest of the story&#8221; about our enduring fascination with the Red Planet, and it has gotten short shrift from the breathless young reporters of the Internet generation. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv1zm2t25" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv1zm2t25</a></p>
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		By: Saville		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saville]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2025 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just goes to underscore how a lot of scientists went for the Climate change bucks when those were the available bucks.

Now that planetary defense has cash... and climate change money is gone.....that&#039;s where they go.

They will go where the money is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just goes to underscore how a lot of scientists went for the Climate change bucks when those were the available bucks.</p>
<p>Now that planetary defense has cash&#8230; and climate change money is gone&#8230;..that&#8217;s where they go.</p>
<p>They will go where the money is.</p>
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