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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/falcon-9r-destroyed-during-failed-test-flight/#comment-253189&quot;&gt;Steve C&lt;/a&gt;.

Steve, 

That is a favorite scene of mine.  However, they had to tell a story in only a couple of minutes.  The following is half an hour of the same story from the 1940s to the 2010s (Goddard’s failures in the 1920s are not included). 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McbCwSW2moo 

To continue with the point that you were making: getting into space is difficult and dangerous.  There is a reason that rocket science is considered difficult.  The scientists and engineers have a relatively small engine that burns fuel and oxidizer at a rate of tens of Megawatts to tens of thousands of Megawatts.  That lightweight, high temperature, high pressure, vibrating, high thrust engine is located only a few feet away from a thin, lightweight fuel tank.  If something goes just a little wrong, such as the vibrations increase, catastrophically bad things can happen very fast.  

Sometimes problems occur because of control problems.  A rocket can get into an attitude in which it structurally breaks up due to atmospheric forces, or it may deviate from the planned course and head toward populated areas.  A Long March actually crashed into the nearby town (24:15 mark in the above video).  

The &quot;Big Boys&quot; didn&#039;t have problems only in the 1950s and early 1960s.  They continue to have problems to this day.  

It’s rocket science.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/falcon-9r-destroyed-during-failed-test-flight/#comment-253189">Steve C</a>.</p>
<p>Steve, </p>
<p>That is a favorite scene of mine.  However, they had to tell a story in only a couple of minutes.  The following is half an hour of the same story from the 1940s to the 2010s (Goddard’s failures in the 1920s are not included).<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McbCwSW2moo" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McbCwSW2moo</a> </p>
<p>To continue with the point that you were making: getting into space is difficult and dangerous.  There is a reason that rocket science is considered difficult.  The scientists and engineers have a relatively small engine that burns fuel and oxidizer at a rate of tens of Megawatts to tens of thousands of Megawatts.  That lightweight, high temperature, high pressure, vibrating, high thrust engine is located only a few feet away from a thin, lightweight fuel tank.  If something goes just a little wrong, such as the vibrations increase, catastrophically bad things can happen very fast.  </p>
<p>Sometimes problems occur because of control problems.  A rocket can get into an attitude in which it structurally breaks up due to atmospheric forces, or it may deviate from the planned course and head toward populated areas.  A Long March actually crashed into the nearby town (24:15 mark in the above video).  </p>
<p>The &#8220;Big Boys&#8221; didn&#8217;t have problems only in the 1950s and early 1960s.  They continue to have problems to this day.  </p>
<p>It’s rocket science.</p>
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		By: Steve C		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 23:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Should any NASA apologists want to give Space X a hard time, here is a compilation of some of their efforts from the movie Right Stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwi_0DEd_0]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should any NASA apologists want to give Space X a hard time, here is a compilation of some of their efforts from the movie Right Stuff. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwi_0DEd_0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwi_0DEd_0</a></p>
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		By: Pzatchok		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 02:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I feel sorry for the cows.



But it sort of looks like the engines cut off for a second or so and then refired but the rocket was way off vertical.

Not being close to vertical is a major problem with this design. It makes any recovery very hard and more than likely would take up a lot of airspace. It would loose a lot of altitude before regaining full control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for the cows.</p>
<p>But it sort of looks like the engines cut off for a second or so and then refired but the rocket was way off vertical.</p>
<p>Not being close to vertical is a major problem with this design. It makes any recovery very hard and more than likely would take up a lot of airspace. It would loose a lot of altitude before regaining full control.</p>
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		By: geoffc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 01:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It really looks like they were testing how far they could turn the vehicle, and they lost control, so flight termination system kicked in.  

That sounds like a normal edge case found, which was the purpose of the program. 

Looks very unrelated to launch ops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really looks like they were testing how far they could turn the vehicle, and they lost control, so flight termination system kicked in.  </p>
<p>That sounds like a normal edge case found, which was the purpose of the program. </p>
<p>Looks very unrelated to launch ops.</p>
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		By: mpthompson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Better to find out what can go wrong with the 9R now than with a real Falcon when all the world is watching.  Just a glitch along the way to what a appears will soon be a stunning achievement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better to find out what can go wrong with the 9R now than with a real Falcon when all the world is watching.  Just a glitch along the way to what a appears will soon be a stunning achievement.</p>
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		By: ken anthony		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Explosives terminated the flight. Put there for that purpose. The SpaceX bashers will overlook that, no doubt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explosives terminated the flight. Put there for that purpose. The SpaceX bashers will overlook that, no doubt.</p>
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