Comments on: First manned Starliner flight delayed https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/first-manned-starliner-flight-delayed/ Fri, 13 May 2016 01:45:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: mkent https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/first-manned-starliner-flight-delayed/#comment-886185 Fri, 13 May 2016 01:45:15 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=39259#comment-886185 BTW, the length of the delay is not being widely reported. It’s currently about four months, from Oct 2017 to Feb 2018. Boeing’s current schedule is:

Oct 17 Pad abort test
Dec 17 Unmanned flight test
Feb 18 Manned flight test

I’m hearing SpaceX had a slightly bigger slip, but they didn’t announce it. Echoes of the CRS-2 contract, where Boeing announced that they had been eliminated, but Lockheed never did, even though they had been eliminated five months before Boeing. Each company chooses differently what information to share.

]]> By: mkent https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/first-manned-starliner-flight-delayed/#comment-886182 Fri, 13 May 2016 01:32:52 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=39259#comment-886182 “Do you have a source?”

In this case my source is me. But you probably want something more definitive.

OK, how about…

18–COMMERCIAL CREW TRANSPORTATION CAPABILITY CONTRACT – CCTCAP – BOEING

“The contract contains three Contract Line Item Numbers (CLINs) for each effort:

CLIN 001 Fixed Price Core Contract for DDTE/Certification
CLIN 002 Fixed Price IDIQ for Post Certification Missions (PCM)
CLIN 003 Fixed Price IDIQ for Special Studies”

BTW, a preview function would be helpful.

]]> By: Dick Eagleson https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/first-manned-starliner-flight-delayed/#comment-886145 Thu, 12 May 2016 20:34:07 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=39259#comment-886145 Here’s a link to a search results page from Doug Messier’s Parabolic Arc. The search predicate I used was “Boeing Commercial Crew Milestones.” The most recent stories seem to be from about two years ago, though I didn’t look at them all and they did not come out in chronological order. But Boeing’s contract is plainly a fixed-price-per-milestone deal. The milestones are described in some detail.

So, yes, it seems Boeing will eat the cost of the Starliner delay.

]]> By: Robert Zimmerman https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/first-manned-starliner-flight-delayed/#comment-886112 Thu, 12 May 2016 16:45:29 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=39259#comment-886112 In reply to mkent.

Excellent. Thank you. Do you have a source?

]]> By: mkent https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/first-manned-starliner-flight-delayed/#comment-886110 Thu, 12 May 2016 16:41:42 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=39259#comment-886110 Fixed-price milestone-based.

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