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	Comments on: GAO: Problems with Blue Origin&#8217;s BE-4 engine threaten ULA&#8217;s Vulcan rocket	</title>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 07:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The GAO loves to attack all things space anyway. When was the last time they went after social programs that backfired?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GAO loves to attack all things space anyway. When was the last time they went after social programs that backfired?</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 21:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tory Bruno, the CEO of ULA, commented today on the GAO report:

&lt;i&gt;Sadly inaccurate. Ie: while BE4 paces completion of Vulcan, as is typical in rocket development , there are no “igniter technical issues”.   We will fly when our payload is ready.&lt;/i&gt;

So there you have it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tory Bruno, the CEO of ULA, commented today on the GAO report:</p>
<p><i>Sadly inaccurate. Ie: while BE4 paces completion of Vulcan, as is typical in rocket development , there are no “igniter technical issues”.   We will fly when our payload is ready.</i></p>
<p>So there you have it.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 20:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/gao-problems-with-blue-origins-be-4-engine-threaten-ulas-vulcan-rocket/#comment-1141393&quot;&gt;Col Beausabre&lt;/a&gt;.

Col Beausabre: The petition is a nice indicator of the number of hateful totalitarians in our society today who think nothing of the idea of killing those they disagree with. I have already put this into my blacklist queue to write about at length.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/gao-problems-with-blue-origins-be-4-engine-threaten-ulas-vulcan-rocket/#comment-1141393">Col Beausabre</a>.</p>
<p>Col Beausabre: The petition is a nice indicator of the number of hateful totalitarians in our society today who think nothing of the idea of killing those they disagree with. I have already put this into my blacklist queue to write about at length.</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 19:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I swear, I am NOT making this up

&quot;Washington Examiner

Petition calling on Bezos to stay in space and never return to Earth receives thousands of signatures

Michael Lee  25 mins ago…

A petition urging billionaire Jeff Bezos not to return to Earth after his first space flight has gained tens of thousands of signatures. (85,000 plus Tuesday Afternoon)

Seems mainly due to people objecting to his wealth and his spending it as he - not they - see fit

“Billionaire’s [sic] should not exist … on earth, or in space, but should they decide the latter they should stay there,” read a petition on Change.org, which was addressed “to the proletariat.”

&quot;Critics have long accused Bezos of not being generous enough with his enormous wealth, with political analyst Earl Ofari Hutchinson noting former President Donald Trump has given away more than 3% of his fortune, while Bezos has parted with less than 1%.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear, I am NOT making this up</p>
<p>&#8220;Washington Examiner</p>
<p>Petition calling on Bezos to stay in space and never return to Earth receives thousands of signatures</p>
<p>Michael Lee  25 mins ago…</p>
<p>A petition urging billionaire Jeff Bezos not to return to Earth after his first space flight has gained tens of thousands of signatures. (85,000 plus Tuesday Afternoon)</p>
<p>Seems mainly due to people objecting to his wealth and his spending it as he &#8211; not they &#8211; see fit</p>
<p>“Billionaire’s [sic] should not exist … on earth, or in space, but should they decide the latter they should stay there,” read a petition on Change.org, which was addressed “to the proletariat.”</p>
<p>&#8220;Critics have long accused Bezos of not being generous enough with his enormous wealth, with political analyst Earl Ofari Hutchinson noting former President Donald Trump has given away more than 3% of his fortune, while Bezos has parted with less than 1%.&#8221;</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Well, for anything but national security launches. By law, DoD is not allowed to buy Atlas 5 launches after Dec. 31, 2022.&lt;/i&gt;

True, but launches ordered in 2022 won&#039;t take place until 2024 or 2025.  ULA has *a lot* of time to work through any issues they may be having before it starts impacting revenue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well, for anything but national security launches. By law, DoD is not allowed to buy Atlas 5 launches after Dec. 31, 2022.</i></p>
<p>True, but launches ordered in 2022 won&#8217;t take place until 2024 or 2025.  ULA has *a lot* of time to work through any issues they may be having before it starts impacting revenue.</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 07:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;There are currently another 30 Atlas V launches planned: 6 military, 4 NASA, 8 Starliner, 11 commercial, and 1 unreserved. And they can always order more RD-180s and build more Atlas Vs if they have to.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, for anything but national security launches. By law, DoD is not allowed to buy Atlas 5 launches after Dec. 31, 2022.

For the moment, they have some buffer to play with. But if Vulcan gets pushed back much further, things start to get a little sticky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are currently another 30 Atlas V launches planned: 6 military, 4 NASA, 8 Starliner, 11 commercial, and 1 unreserved. And they can always order more RD-180s and build more Atlas Vs if they have to.</i></p>
<p>Well, for anything but national security launches. By law, DoD is not allowed to buy Atlas 5 launches after Dec. 31, 2022.</p>
<p>For the moment, they have some buffer to play with. But if Vulcan gets pushed back much further, things start to get a little sticky.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 04:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let Musk make the rocket, and Bezos the payload. Now ULA needs to build Pyrios as a fly-back to replace Vulcan and SRBs.                  
                                                   
                                              Dynetics can bring back the F-1 with lower part count. J-2 for a bigger upper stage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Musk make the rocket, and Bezos the payload. Now ULA needs to build Pyrios as a fly-back to replace Vulcan and SRBs.                  </p>
<p>                                              Dynetics can bring back the F-1 with lower part count. J-2 for a bigger upper stage.</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 02:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Both ULA and Blue Origin maintain that the first Vulcan launch will occur in the fourth quarter of this year, launching Astrobotic’s lunar lander Peregrine to the Moon, but no date has been announced.&lt;/i&gt;

ULA and Astrobotic recently announced that due to payload issues, this launch will now occur in early 2022.  ULA is still publicly saying that they intend to have Vulcan ready to fly by the end of the year, waiting for the payload.  Skepticism is warranted, but that&#039;s the public statement as of now.

&lt;i&gt;ULA has a limited number of Russian engines in its inventory. At some point it must move on to American-built engines, and if Blue Origin’s BE-4 cannot be fixed then the company will be forced to look for other options.&lt;/i&gt;

There are currently another 30 Atlas V launches planned: 6 military, 4 NASA, 8 Starliner, 11 commercial, and 1 unreserved.  And they can always order more RD-180s and build more Atlas Vs if they have to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Both ULA and Blue Origin maintain that the first Vulcan launch will occur in the fourth quarter of this year, launching Astrobotic’s lunar lander Peregrine to the Moon, but no date has been announced.</i></p>
<p>ULA and Astrobotic recently announced that due to payload issues, this launch will now occur in early 2022.  ULA is still publicly saying that they intend to have Vulcan ready to fly by the end of the year, waiting for the payload.  Skepticism is warranted, but that&#8217;s the public statement as of now.</p>
<p><i>ULA has a limited number of Russian engines in its inventory. At some point it must move on to American-built engines, and if Blue Origin’s BE-4 cannot be fixed then the company will be forced to look for other options.</i></p>
<p>There are currently another 30 Atlas V launches planned: 6 military, 4 NASA, 8 Starliner, 11 commercial, and 1 unreserved.  And they can always order more RD-180s and build more Atlas Vs if they have to.</p>
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		By: Mike Borgelt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Borgelt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2021 21:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mars makes a great, clear motivational goal. The capability to go there and back gives you everything else in between like space manufacturing, O&#039;Neill colonies, Luna City etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mars makes a great, clear motivational goal. The capability to go there and back gives you everything else in between like space manufacturing, O&#8217;Neill colonies, Luna City etc.</p>
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		By: Skunk Bucket		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skunk Bucket]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2021 17:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really want to believe in Blue Origin. I like Bezos&#039; dream of O&#039;Neill colonies and space manufacturing more than Musk&#039;s Mars-centric vision, but Jeff&#039;s company just isn&#039;t getting it done. Maybe once the engine issues are worked out they can get New Glenn flying and be a real SpaceX competitor, but with their almost paranoid secrecy, who knows when that will happen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to believe in Blue Origin. I like Bezos&#8217; dream of O&#8217;Neill colonies and space manufacturing more than Musk&#8217;s Mars-centric vision, but Jeff&#8217;s company just isn&#8217;t getting it done. Maybe once the engine issues are worked out they can get New Glenn flying and be a real SpaceX competitor, but with their almost paranoid secrecy, who knows when that will happen?</p>
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