Comments on: IG report: FBI screwed up on every single FISA warrant application it submitted

By: Max

Max — Mon, 06 Apr 2020 18:40:44 +0000

Not the Babylon bee… But definitely viewed as satire today. From Barack Obama’s own lips on the FISA court in an interview…

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2013/jun/21/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-foreign-intelligence-surveillanc/

By: Scott Hoover

Scott Hoover — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:15:52 +0000

What were the FISA court judges doing during all this? Didn’t they have an obligation to probe the veracity of the warrant applications being submitted to them? Are they merely rubber-stampers? Since the IG finds problems with all of the warrants, I’m aghast that the court itself found problems with none.

By: sippin_bourbon

sippin_bourbon — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 02:49:14 +0000

A little satire.

https://babylonbee.com/news/government-accidentally-shuts-itself-down-with-ban-on-non-essential-businesses

By: sippin_bourbon

sippin_bourbon — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 02:24:35 +0000

Mike Shupp
The paperwork required is difficult, and calls for a much higher standard, because the FOR A court is one sided.

Not sure if you read the part about the Woods Files, and the necessary standard it is supposed to require.

By: Edward

Edward — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 01:52:17 +0000

Robert wrote: “They’d hoard and steal, and everyone else would starve”

Supermarkets have better oversight than the FBI does. Oops: any oversight at all would be better than the FBI’s (“Cleanup, aisle three”).

Federal
Bureau of
Incompetents,

or:

Federal
Bureau of those who should be
Incarcerated.

“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” (Who cleans up after the janitors?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quis_custodiet_ipsos_custodes%3F

By: Cotour

Cotour — Wed, 01 Apr 2020 00:03:00 +0000

Everything related to the FBI and its leaderships bad acts (To put it mildly) IMO will evaporate and be conveniently forgotten about. POOF!

As an example just before this virus got going, the FBI reported that “They lost all of General Flynns documents related to his case”.

https://thewashingtonsentinel.com/trump-furious-after-corrupt-fbi-loses-gen-michael-flynns-records-now-trump-is-doing-this/

And remember when the Customs building went down during 9-11? Conveniently all of the records for the CIA related to I think it was $3triilion dollars in missing money was destroyed. And if I remember correctly I think it was revealed just the day before by Rumsfeld?

Are you getting on board now with Strategy Over Morality and when and where it exists and is executed?

Who do you think you are playing with here?

By: Woody

Woody — Tue, 31 Mar 2020 23:41:43 +0000

Considering the onslaught to the president’s credibility for the past three years, his unwavering willingness to fight back, and the current institutional (media, academy, gov’t) efforts to “manage” popular passions…I’m willing to wait a little on presidential action toward the FBI. I still have faith that it’s coming…No question your article proposes appropriate first steps in reforming the agency.

By: Cotour

Cotour — Tue, 31 Mar 2020 23:05:38 +0000

Now that the federal government is essentially buying a massive segment of the economy, both large and small businesses, they will need to watch us all even closer.

By: mike shupp

mike shupp — Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:58:17 +0000

Maybe all FBI agents filling out FISA paperwork are lazy, thuggish, or incompetent, but I find that implausible. I mean, all of them? It strikes me as much more likely that the paperwork may be unreasonable, asking agents for specific details about names and dates that they can only guess at for instance. A useful step might be simplifying the forms.

That’s assuming one wants to keep the secret FISA courts and FBI agents active in these kinds of fishing for data, of course. That’s another issue, and Mr. Zimmerman may well be right that we’d all be better off without it. Maybe some Congressional committees which are supposed to oversee this activity could put out a bipartisan report giving some detail on just how useful FISA has been, or not been.

By: Robert Zimmerman

Robert Zimmerman — Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:36:37 +0000

In reply to sippin_bourbon. sippin_bourbon: You are likely right. Firing people would certainly help. Not renewing FISA, so it goes the way of the dinosaurs, would also help significantly. In both cases, the ability of these thugs to do the ordinary citizen harm would be significantly reduced.

By: sippin_bourbon

sippin_bourbon — Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:10:25 +0000

Firing people won’t fix it. Not will it create a proper system for protecting due process.

The system needs a major overhaul, replacement, or elimination.

New legislation is required for that, and sadly, I do not see it happening.