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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Even a firearm permit is a back door way to require your firearms be registered.
Its also like a vehicle license. But owning a firearm is NOT a privilege, its a right. So requiring a license for it is wrong.


The sad thing is that liberals think a list of firearm owners is going to help them fight crime.
That is like thinking a list of vehicle owners is going to stop vehicle citations and accidents.

I would rather have an accurate list of people who can not own firearms. That way the government can reference it when a firearm is transferred in order to stop the transfer. A better background check.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even a firearm permit is a back door way to require your firearms be registered.<br />
Its also like a vehicle license. But owning a firearm is NOT a privilege, its a right. So requiring a license for it is wrong.</p>
<p>The sad thing is that liberals think a list of firearm owners is going to help them fight crime.<br />
That is like thinking a list of vehicle owners is going to stop vehicle citations and accidents.</p>
<p>I would rather have an accurate list of people who can not own firearms. That way the government can reference it when a firearm is transferred in order to stop the transfer. A better background check.</p>
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		By: Captain Emeritus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Captain Emeritus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Open carry&quot; requires nothing and might also bring the word &quot;Sir&quot; back into the vernacular.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Open carry&#8221; requires nothing and might also bring the word &#8220;Sir&#8221; back into the vernacular.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2019 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[pzatchok wrote: &quot;&lt;i&gt;Its the same as asking what books I have in my house. Sorry, but why do they want to see my books? To approve of my reading lists?&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

Worse than that, it is the same as demanding to read your diary.  It isn&#039;t a matter of what topics you are interested in but to make sure that you think the &quot;right&quot; things and none of the &quot;wrong&quot; things.  No wrongthink for us.  What do they think is right and what is wrong?  Only they know for sure.  

The best part (for them) is that right and wrong can change at any moment in order to make everyone ineligible for gun ownership because following the right things to think in the past can turn all of us in the present into wrong-thinkers.  

Next up: Crimestop.  
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime )

Robert, 
You wrote: &quot;&lt;i&gt;it increasingly appears to be future Americans face, mostly due to their own choices at the ballot box.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

But of course we have chosen these intrusions of our freedoms.  They have always worked in the past, right?  

Gun-free zones have never had any gun attacks, right?  

With a perfect track record like that, a &quot;&lt;i&gt;1984-like government intrusion into the privacy of citizens&lt;/i&gt;&quot; will do what failed with the gun-free zones, right?  Right?  

Not only can we now get trapped by a process crime, like General Mike Flynn, but now we can get trapped by a thoughtcrime.  Apparently, we will put up with anything, just so long as it makes us think that we are safe, even a security camera in our shower.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea-XNUQ0MY8 (1 minute)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pzatchok wrote: &#8220;<i>Its the same as asking what books I have in my house. Sorry, but why do they want to see my books? To approve of my reading lists?</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>Worse than that, it is the same as demanding to read your diary.  It isn&#8217;t a matter of what topics you are interested in but to make sure that you think the &#8220;right&#8221; things and none of the &#8220;wrong&#8221; things.  No wrongthink for us.  What do they think is right and what is wrong?  Only they know for sure.  </p>
<p>The best part (for them) is that right and wrong can change at any moment in order to make everyone ineligible for gun ownership because following the right things to think in the past can turn all of us in the present into wrong-thinkers.  </p>
<p>Next up: Crimestop.<br />
( <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime</a> )</p>
<p>Robert,<br />
You wrote: &#8220;<i>it increasingly appears to be future Americans face, mostly due to their own choices at the ballot box.</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>But of course we have chosen these intrusions of our freedoms.  They have always worked in the past, right?  </p>
<p>Gun-free zones have never had any gun attacks, right?  </p>
<p>With a perfect track record like that, a &#8220;<i>1984-like government intrusion into the privacy of citizens</i>&#8221; will do what failed with the gun-free zones, right?  Right?  </p>
<p>Not only can we now get trapped by a process crime, like General Mike Flynn, but now we can get trapped by a thoughtcrime.  Apparently, we will put up with anything, just so long as it makes us think that we are safe, even a security camera in our shower.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea-XNUQ0MY8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea-XNUQ0MY8</a> (1 minute)</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[pzatchok 

Ref the 4th Amendment, I am sure that there will be a portion of the firearms application that has you agreeing to provide the state your accounts as a condition of application. Don&#039;t agree? Then your application goes into File 13. 

Now I think - don&#039;t know for sure - the courts have upheld in at least certain cases that you can not sign a right away, but if you can, there&#039;s the gotcha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pzatchok </p>
<p>Ref the 4th Amendment, I am sure that there will be a portion of the firearms application that has you agreeing to provide the state your accounts as a condition of application. Don&#8217;t agree? Then your application goes into File 13. </p>
<p>Now I think &#8211; don&#8217;t know for sure &#8211; the courts have upheld in at least certain cases that you can not sign a right away, but if you can, there&#8217;s the gotcha.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 06:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What if one has no &quot;social media histories&quot;?

Automatic jail time?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if one has no &#8220;social media histories&#8221;?</p>
<p>Automatic jail time?</p>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2019 04:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

Its the same as asking what books I have in my house. Sorry, but why do they want to see my books? To approve of my reading lists?

Damn lefties think owning a gun is a privilege and not a right. You can easily deny someone a privilege but not a right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amendment 4<br />
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.</p>
<p>Its the same as asking what books I have in my house. Sorry, but why do they want to see my books? To approve of my reading lists?</p>
<p>Damn lefties think owning a gun is a privilege and not a right. You can easily deny someone a privilege but not a right.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 17:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Charlton Heston; 
&quot;From My Cold Dead Hands&quot;
2000
https://youtu.be/5ju4Gla2odw
(2:45)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlton Heston;<br />
&#8220;From My Cold Dead Hands&#8221;<br />
2000<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/5ju4Gla2odw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/5ju4Gla2odw</a><br />
(2:45)</p>
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