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	Comments on: Modern bigotry in Canada: Simon Fraser University declares math &#8220;racist&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Beaver		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a math prof (Func Analysis and either linear algebra or topology... It has been a couple of years) at Oregon State from Simon Fraser. Oddly, I can&#039;t recall his lady name, but I remember his accent, and what he drove. The guy was large, 6&#039;2, and drove a Fiat X1/9. Watching him get into that was line watching a practical demonstration of advanced concepts in topology.

As far as I know, he was neither black nor racist]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a math prof (Func Analysis and either linear algebra or topology&#8230; It has been a couple of years) at Oregon State from Simon Fraser. Oddly, I can&#8217;t recall his lady name, but I remember his accent, and what he drove. The guy was large, 6&#8217;2, and drove a Fiat X1/9. Watching him get into that was line watching a practical demonstration of advanced concepts in topology.</p>
<p>As far as I know, he was neither black nor racist</p>
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		By: GaryMike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 01:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Canadian Bacon (1995)]]></description>
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		By: GaryMike		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Constitutionally protected free speech exists in the U.S. to make it easier to know who to avoid and resist.

Canada has earned our disrespect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constitutionally protected free speech exists in the U.S. to make it easier to know who to avoid and resist.</p>
<p>Canada has earned our disrespect.</p>
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		By: Ian C.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 23:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder with what kind of decolonized math those deconstructed alien intelliwhatevers would come up with.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Instead of listening for signs of alien intelligence, we should first be listening to Indigenous people here on Earth, or, as she put it, taking into account “marginalized and historically excluded perspectives.” (...) Speaking at a large SETI meeting in Pennsylvania last year, she reiterated her claims that racism might underlie much of the current SETI mission. Charbonneau was not alone. Another observer at the meeting reported that many of the “scientific talks” were about forbidding the language of “colonization” and discussing “indigenous” issues, non-binary sexuality, and transphobia. Ultimately, the meeting resolved that it was appropriate to forbid the use of the word “intelligence” in the name “Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence” as it is a “white construct.”&lt;/i&gt;

https://quillette.com/2023/04/06/astrobiology-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-nascent-science/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder with what kind of decolonized math those deconstructed alien intelliwhatevers would come up with.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Instead of listening for signs of alien intelligence, we should first be listening to Indigenous people here on Earth, or, as she put it, taking into account “marginalized and historically excluded perspectives.” (&#8230;) Speaking at a large SETI meeting in Pennsylvania last year, she reiterated her claims that racism might underlie much of the current SETI mission. Charbonneau was not alone. Another observer at the meeting reported that many of the “scientific talks” were about forbidding the language of “colonization” and discussing “indigenous” issues, non-binary sexuality, and transphobia. Ultimately, the meeting resolved that it was appropriate to forbid the use of the word “intelligence” in the name “Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence” as it is a “white construct.”</i></p>
<p><a href="https://quillette.com/2023/04/06/astrobiology-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-nascent-science/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://quillette.com/2023/04/06/astrobiology-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-nascent-science/</a></p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 17:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just reread my comment.   It comes off a little angrier that intended.   it was meant to be said with humor. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just reread my comment.   It comes off a little angrier that intended.   it was meant to be said with humor. :)</p>
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		By: Kevin R.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 17:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bud, universals are of a piece with objective reason. CRT says objective truth and reason are white. They will tell you that is purely a white race thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bud, universals are of a piece with objective reason. CRT says objective truth and reason are white. They will tell you that is purely a white race thing.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 16:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve heard this doggeral about math and science before.  I am a utility engineer and I see math (and a variety of other hard skills) used every day to keep the lights on.   Does that mean by extension electric power is racist?  Actually, I&#039;m pretty sure I know the answer to that...   

This falls into a collection of flawed logic that had our ancestors followed, we would not be better off.  We would all just be shivering in a cave taking turns holding down anyone that dares to try and control fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard this doggeral about math and science before.  I am a utility engineer and I see math (and a variety of other hard skills) used every day to keep the lights on.   Does that mean by extension electric power is racist?  Actually, I&#8217;m pretty sure I know the answer to that&#8230;   </p>
<p>This falls into a collection of flawed logic that had our ancestors followed, we would not be better off.  We would all just be shivering in a cave taking turns holding down anyone that dares to try and control fire.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 16:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/modern-bigotry-in-canada-simon-fraser-university-declares-math-racist/#comment-1408628&quot;&gt;Bud Norton&lt;/a&gt;.

Bud Norton: You make the fatal assumption that this Marxist movement has any interest in rational debate. It does not. If you try to ask such questions it will simply gather a mob &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/blacklisted-americans/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;to silence you.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/modern-bigotry-in-canada-simon-fraser-university-declares-math-racist/#comment-1408628">Bud Norton</a>.</p>
<p>Bud Norton: You make the fatal assumption that this Marxist movement has any interest in rational debate. It does not. If you try to ask such questions it will simply gather a mob <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/blacklisted-americans/" rel="ugc">to silence you.</a></p>
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		By: Bud Norton		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I say math itself cannot be racist, because it is universal, it&#039;s the same for everyone, then what is their rebuttal?]]></description>
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		By: David F		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SFU has always been a loony bin.  Public Interest Research Groups gather up the weird and concentrate it.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and let&#039;s not forget Chaos Theory. One activist flaps his gums and the world changes. It doesn&#039;t get any more SJW than that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and let&#8217;s not forget Chaos Theory. One activist flaps his gums and the world changes. It doesn&#8217;t get any more SJW than that.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I want to know what sort of math is racist. Not all math is &quot;math&quot;, imho. Not to mention that we need new notation for the computer era; this stuff is way too  hard to type.

1+1 = 2 isn&#039;t very &quot;mathy&quot;.
y = mx+b is getting there.
e^(i*pi) = 1 is definitely not racist, it&#039;s Swiss, not German (and Euler is Yuler not Oiler).
derivatives are racist because they break wholes into infinitesimal parts and only wholes matter.
integrals are very SJW compatible because they consider wholes, not parts.
linear algebra seems very compatible with deconstruction because it redefines common operations to suit its own needs. If a^2+b^2=c^2 was a good enough distance metric for Pythagoras (replace with desired African or Islamic scholar of your choice), it should be good enough for anyone.
non-Ecludian geometry is Justice. That dead white (yes, I know) guy was wrong!

Can we just not care and avoid Canadian bridges?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to know what sort of math is racist. Not all math is &#8220;math&#8221;, imho. Not to mention that we need new notation for the computer era; this stuff is way too  hard to type.</p>
<p>1+1 = 2 isn&#8217;t very &#8220;mathy&#8221;.<br />
y = mx+b is getting there.<br />
e^(i*pi) = 1 is definitely not racist, it&#8217;s Swiss, not German (and Euler is Yuler not Oiler).<br />
derivatives are racist because they break wholes into infinitesimal parts and only wholes matter.<br />
integrals are very SJW compatible because they consider wholes, not parts.<br />
linear algebra seems very compatible with deconstruction because it redefines common operations to suit its own needs. If a^2+b^2=c^2 was a good enough distance metric for Pythagoras (replace with desired African or Islamic scholar of your choice), it should be good enough for anyone.<br />
non-Ecludian geometry is Justice. That dead white (yes, I know) guy was wrong!</p>
<p>Can we just not care and avoid Canadian bridges?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[— — Lindsay said: “They don’t need mathematics backgrounds. They have critical consciousness, which means they know how racism and transphobia are hidden in everything, even things they don’t know anything about.” — —

“Critical consciousness.” 

When all is said and done the Marxists foundation of their claim to have knowledge of reality is based on the primitive mystical claim of being endowed with a divine means of perception that others do not have - and therefor we must take their word as gospel.

The Left are extremely primitive people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>— — Lindsay said: “They don’t need mathematics backgrounds. They have critical consciousness, which means they know how racism and transphobia are hidden in everything, even things they don’t know anything about.” — —</p>
<p>“Critical consciousness.” </p>
<p>When all is said and done the Marxists foundation of their claim to have knowledge of reality is based on the primitive mystical claim of being endowed with a divine means of perception that others do not have &#8211; and therefor we must take their word as gospel.</p>
<p>The Left are extremely primitive people.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary H]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Follow the money.  Those pushing the left’s agenda are all about money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow the money.  Those pushing the left’s agenda are all about money.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;SFPIRG&lt;/i&gt;
Ralph Nader started the PIRG (Public Interest &quot;Research&quot; Group) phenomenon back in the 70&#039;s. They had nothing to do with actual research, of course, but were instead purely for the dissemination of lies, the demonization of good people, and the subversion of valuable institutions. Nader&#039;s entire life was a waste.]]></description>
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Ralph Nader started the PIRG (Public Interest &#8220;Research&#8221; Group) phenomenon back in the 70&#8217;s. They had nothing to do with actual research, of course, but were instead purely for the dissemination of lies, the demonization of good people, and the subversion of valuable institutions. Nader&#8217;s entire life was a waste.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tim Pool: The Culture War #8 
(April 15, 2023)
 Alex Jones, Luke Rudkowski
https://youtu.be/dfOnfs54SnM
2:07:10

&quot;2+2=5, You Bigot&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Pool: The Culture War #8<br />
(April 15, 2023)<br />
 Alex Jones, Luke Rudkowski<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/dfOnfs54SnM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/dfOnfs54SnM</a><br />
2:07:10</p>
<p>&#8220;2+2=5, You Bigot&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;They have critical consciousness, . . .&quot;

Obtained, no doubt, from Critical Race Theory. 

There is an old Doonesbury cartoon, featuring a student and a professor:

&quot;My culture holds that the square root of 144 is 15.&quot;

&quot;Would this be an advanced culture?&quot;

I&#039;ve heard the &#039;Math is Racist&#039; trope for thirty years. Yep, whenever something is difficult, it must be racism. Or, in the case of &quot;Math is hard!&quot; Barbie, sexism. The Scientific Method, along with critical and logical thinking, become Tools of Oppression. Ever notice how &#039;critical thinking&#039;; once the darling of Education, has fairly well disappeared as a desirable quality?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They have critical consciousness, . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Obtained, no doubt, from Critical Race Theory. </p>
<p>There is an old Doonesbury cartoon, featuring a student and a professor:</p>
<p>&#8220;My culture holds that the square root of 144 is 15.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Would this be an advanced culture?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard the &#8216;Math is Racist&#8217; trope for thirty years. Yep, whenever something is difficult, it must be racism. Or, in the case of &#8220;Math is hard!&#8221; Barbie, sexism. The Scientific Method, along with critical and logical thinking, become Tools of Oppression. Ever notice how &#8216;critical thinking&#8217;; once the darling of Education, has fairly well disappeared as a desirable quality?</p>
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