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		By: Cotour		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-evidence-masks-are-merely-a-symbolic-gesture/#comment-1083284</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just how much insult and exception are black Americans willing to take from these &quot;Progressives&quot;?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/06/23/county-officials-say-face-masks-are-exempt-for-some-as-long-as-theyre-not-white-n2571189

The Left makes them less than and not equal, just outrageous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just how much insult and exception are black Americans willing to take from these &#8220;Progressives&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/06/23/county-officials-say-face-masks-are-exempt-for-some-as-long-as-theyre-not-white-n2571189" rel="nofollow ugc">https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/06/23/county-officials-say-face-masks-are-exempt-for-some-as-long-as-theyre-not-white-n2571189</a></p>
<p>The Left makes them less than and not equal, just outrageous.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-evidence-masks-are-merely-a-symbolic-gesture/#comment-1082465</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 14:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I first want to apologize for posting a video that features Whoopie, Joy Beyhar, and I do not know who that third woman is, I am certain that she is just as nutty a Liberal and Leftist supporting Democrat as the other two. My only intent was to show the Howard Stern comment about Trump. Please for give me, I personally find them to be vial, hateful and non relevant individuals.

https://youtu.be/9bC4BH5E4Ys

Howard Stern informs everyone, the every day people of America that &quot;Trump despises you&quot;. And Stern expects that to divide Trumps supporters? Who cares Howard? I have made this point many times: Do you need to love the surgeon that specializes in the urgent surgery that you need? Or do you need him to love you? I know I do not. I could care less about who Trump likes or does not like, me being among them.

Sterns attempt at dividing is childish and unsophisticated, and IMO is just a desperate attempt at becoming relevant and in the medias eye. Stern and people like him are the problem here. No one cares if Trump likes them, Trump was hired to do a job and he is doing that job he was hired to do. 

Stern and the rest of those desperate Democrats / Liberals / supporters of Leftist agendas on the View reveal themselves every day for exactly what they are, desperate to be relevant and childish media talking heads that have become the enemy of the American people. Petty.

Trump does not personally like you America, and so what? The media has become so transparent in their desperation. All is being revealed, let the sun shine in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first want to apologize for posting a video that features Whoopie, Joy Beyhar, and I do not know who that third woman is, I am certain that she is just as nutty a Liberal and Leftist supporting Democrat as the other two. My only intent was to show the Howard Stern comment about Trump. Please for give me, I personally find them to be vial, hateful and non relevant individuals.</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/9bC4BH5E4Ys" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/9bC4BH5E4Ys</a></p>
<p>Howard Stern informs everyone, the every day people of America that &#8220;Trump despises you&#8221;. And Stern expects that to divide Trumps supporters? Who cares Howard? I have made this point many times: Do you need to love the surgeon that specializes in the urgent surgery that you need? Or do you need him to love you? I know I do not. I could care less about who Trump likes or does not like, me being among them.</p>
<p>Sterns attempt at dividing is childish and unsophisticated, and IMO is just a desperate attempt at becoming relevant and in the medias eye. Stern and people like him are the problem here. No one cares if Trump likes them, Trump was hired to do a job and he is doing that job he was hired to do. </p>
<p>Stern and the rest of those desperate Democrats / Liberals / supporters of Leftist agendas on the View reveal themselves every day for exactly what they are, desperate to be relevant and childish media talking heads that have become the enemy of the American people. Petty.</p>
<p>Trump does not personally like you America, and so what? The media has become so transparent in their desperation. All is being revealed, let the sun shine in.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 13:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some more info on Covid.

On Amazon: Unreported Truths about COVID-19 and Lockdowns: Part 1: Introduction and Death Counts and Estimates Kindle Edition by Alex Berenson (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 4.8 out of 5 stars 1,536 ratings 

&quot;Former New York Times reporter and prominent lockdown critic Alex Berenson provides a counterweight to media hysteria about coronavirus in this series of short booklets answering crucial questions about COVID.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more info on Covid.</p>
<p>On Amazon: Unreported Truths about COVID-19 and Lockdowns: Part 1: Introduction and Death Counts and Estimates Kindle Edition by Alex Berenson (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 4.8 out of 5 stars 1,536 ratings </p>
<p>&#8220;Former New York Times reporter and prominent lockdown critic Alex Berenson provides a counterweight to media hysteria about coronavirus in this series of short booklets answering crucial questions about COVID.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Phill O		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-evidence-masks-are-merely-a-symbolic-gesture/#comment-1082460</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 13:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This link explains everything about masks.  Well worth doing the puzzle!

https://www.jigidi.com/created.php?id=NBI6CCD3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This link explains everything about masks.  Well worth doing the puzzle!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.jigidi.com/created.php?id=NBI6CCD3" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.jigidi.com/created.php?id=NBI6CCD3</a></p>
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		By: Phill O		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-evidence-masks-are-merely-a-symbolic-gesture/#comment-1082329</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2020 23:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is a news report which really puts the nail in the coffin for masks.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-rare-who

The only logical reason (apart from surgeries etc) for wearing masks was the notion that it is to protect others from you if you were a carrier but asymptomatic.  This article seems to debunk that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a news report which really puts the nail in the coffin for masks.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-rare-who" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-rare-who</a></p>
<p>The only logical reason (apart from surgeries etc) for wearing masks was the notion that it is to protect others from you if you were a carrier but asymptomatic.  This article seems to debunk that!</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2020 22:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where is Lee S when you need him?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Lee S when you need him?</p>
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		By: Andrew_W		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-evidence-masks-are-merely-a-symbolic-gesture/#comment-1082020</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2020 21:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Coronavirus: Swedish disease expert admits Covid-19 mistakes
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300027183/coronavirus-swedish-disease-expert-admits-covid19-mistakes]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coronavirus: Swedish disease expert admits Covid-19 mistakes<br />
<a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300027183/coronavirus-swedish-disease-expert-admits-covid19-mistakes" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300027183/coronavirus-swedish-disease-expert-admits-covid19-mistakes</a></p>
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		By: Andrew_W		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2020 10:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Distance, masks and eye protection
Dr. John Campbell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vT9BV8-0TA
[9:59]
Your chances of being infected by others:
 If you are wearing a mask  3%
If you are not wearing a mask  17%

&lt;i&gt;Lancet, Physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to 
prevent person-to-person transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and 
COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis 
1st June, COVID-19 Systematic Urgent Review Group Effort (SURGE) &lt;/i&gt;

Details of the study at the link.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Distance, masks and eye protection<br />
Dr. John Campbell</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vT9BV8-0TA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vT9BV8-0TA</a><br />
[9:59]<br />
Your chances of being infected by others:<br />
 If you are wearing a mask  3%<br />
If you are not wearing a mask  17%</p>
<p><i>Lancet, Physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to<br />
prevent person-to-person transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and<br />
COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis<br />
1st June, COVID-19 Systematic Urgent Review Group Effort (SURGE) </i></p>
<p>Details of the study at the link.</p>
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		By: m d mill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 06:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kermit TRS:
thanks for the references, but note, nylons themselves only filter 2% (1 layer)... see table IV last line here
   (no paywall!)
https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/5532576
The nylons are only good for creating a good seal around the face.
although 8 layers of handkerchief filtered out 90% @ 2 um, assuming no leakage.

see also
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20069567v3.full.pdf

https://www.survivalring.org/classics/efficiency%20of%20wet%20towels%20and%20handkerchiefs%20to%20block%20out%20chemical%20agents.pdf

Clearly a good quality mask must provide low leakage around the edges, which is why a firm cup shaped mask with deformable metal nose strip is particularly effective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kermit TRS:<br />
thanks for the references, but note, nylons themselves only filter 2% (1 layer)&#8230; see table IV last line here<br />
   (no paywall!)<br />
<a href="https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/5532576" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/5532576</a><br />
The nylons are only good for creating a good seal around the face.<br />
although 8 layers of handkerchief filtered out 90% @ 2 um, assuming no leakage.</p>
<p>see also<br />
<a href="https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20069567v3.full.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20069567v3.full.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.survivalring.org/classics/efficiency%20of%20wet%20towels%20and%20handkerchiefs%20to%20block%20out%20chemical%20agents.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.survivalring.org/classics/efficiency%20of%20wet%20towels%20and%20handkerchiefs%20to%20block%20out%20chemical%20agents.pdf</a></p>
<p>Clearly a good quality mask must provide low leakage around the edges, which is why a firm cup shaped mask with deformable metal nose strip is particularly effective.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 04:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-evidence-masks-are-merely-a-symbolic-gesture/#comment-1081841&quot;&gt;Gary Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Gary Brown: See this post: &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/i-will-not-wear-a-mask/&quot;&gt;I will NOT wear a mask&lt;/a&gt;. In it I cite legal requirements imposed in Colorado, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Maryland. And I wrote this on May 6, three weeks ago. Since then none of these states have relaxed their requirements, and Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, DC, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming have all imposed requirements that demand mask use. 

Most limit the demand to just employees of some businesses, but a healthy number demand that everyone wear them. See &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/facing-your-face-mask-duties-list-statewide-orders&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;this link.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-evidence-masks-are-merely-a-symbolic-gesture/#comment-1081841">Gary Brown</a>.</p>
<p>Gary Brown: See this post: <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/i-will-not-wear-a-mask/">I will NOT wear a mask</a>. In it I cite legal requirements imposed in Colorado, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Maryland. And I wrote this on May 6, three weeks ago. Since then none of these states have relaxed their requirements, and Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, DC, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming have all imposed requirements that demand mask use. </p>
<p>Most limit the demand to just employees of some businesses, but a healthy number demand that everyone wear them. See <a href="https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/facing-your-face-mask-duties-list-statewide-orders" rel="nofollow ugc">this link.</a></p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2020 04:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Phill O asked: &quot;&lt;i&gt;Anyone else willing to shake hands again?&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

Not if we end up like Aurora in Asimov&#039;s &quot;The Robots of Dawn.&quot;  They were so absurdly germaphobic that they took social distancing to an extreme.  Hmm.  Much like we have been required to do today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phill O asked: &#8220;<i>Anyone else willing to shake hands again?</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>Not if we end up like Aurora in Asimov&#8217;s &#8220;The Robots of Dawn.&#8221;  They were so absurdly germaphobic that they took social distancing to an extreme.  Hmm.  Much like we have been required to do today.</p>
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		By: tmavenger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 23:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Four subjects? If there is one thing we should have learned in the last 3 months it&#039;s to be skeptical of experts spouting nonsense. I learned in kindergarten that spraying snot on people with a sneeze is an excellent way to transmit a respiratory disease. Masks prevent that. Is the ONE nation whose population wears masks that has NOT controlled this pandemic? Fer crissake people, what does it take to see reason?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four subjects? If there is one thing we should have learned in the last 3 months it&#8217;s to be skeptical of experts spouting nonsense. I learned in kindergarten that spraying snot on people with a sneeze is an excellent way to transmit a respiratory disease. Masks prevent that. Is the ONE nation whose population wears masks that has NOT controlled this pandemic? Fer crissake people, what does it take to see reason?</p>
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		By: Andrew _W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew _W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 22:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cotour, I never claimed that he was acting as a protester. My initial comment stands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cotour, I never claimed that he was acting as a protester. My initial comment stands.</p>
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		By: Phill O		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phill O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 22:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone else willing to shake hands again?  

I may have put a mask on to satisfy the ophthalmologist, but will shake hands with those I trust!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else willing to shake hands again?  </p>
<p>I may have put a mask on to satisfy the ophthalmologist, but will shake hands with those I trust!</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 21:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But you now do agree with me. So your initial response was reactionary, un called for and inaccurate. 

Just like 2 million Americans dead in 3 years due to Corona virus, and the majority of most all of your assertions and conclusions. Oink.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you now do agree with me. So your initial response was reactionary, un called for and inaccurate. </p>
<p>Just like 2 million Americans dead in 3 years due to Corona virus, and the majority of most all of your assertions and conclusions. Oink.</p>
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		By: Andrew _W		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew _W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 21:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Now we have to find out . . .&quot;
Knock yourself out, but the &quot;we&quot; doesn&#039;t include me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now we have to find out . . .&#8221;<br />
Knock yourself out, but the &#8220;we&#8221; doesn&#8217;t include me.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So you do agree, there is something other than a protest going on here.

Very good Andrew W.

Now we just have to find out exactly what it is that IS going on here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you do agree, there is something other than a protest going on here.</p>
<p>Very good Andrew W.</p>
<p>Now we just have to find out exactly what it is that IS going on here.</p>
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		By: Andrew_W		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 21:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OR, and this is my favourite:
He could be a time travelling former Democrat, Republican with a grudge against the owner of the business also with a strange agenda and mental issues, university professor conducting a science experiment.

The strange the better, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OR, and this is my favourite:<br />
He could be a time travelling former Democrat, Republican with a grudge against the owner of the business also with a strange agenda and mental issues, university professor conducting a science experiment.</p>
<p>The strange the better, right?</p>
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		By: Andrew_W		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 21:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Even you can see that there is something other than a protest that is going on here. No?&lt;/i&gt;

These are POSSIBILITIES:
He has a grudge against the owner of the business.
He has mental issues that were triggered by the riots.
He&#039;s a Democrat with some strange agenda.
He&#039;s a Republican with some strange agenda.
He&#039;s just a moron that likes breaking windows.
He&#039;s a university professor conducting a science experiment.

I&#039;m sure you can add to that short list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Even you can see that there is something other than a protest that is going on here. No?</i></p>
<p>These are POSSIBILITIES:<br />
He has a grudge against the owner of the business.<br />
He has mental issues that were triggered by the riots.<br />
He&#8217;s a Democrat with some strange agenda.<br />
He&#8217;s a Republican with some strange agenda.<br />
He&#8217;s just a moron that likes breaking windows.<br />
He&#8217;s a university professor conducting a science experiment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you can add to that short list.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 21:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tell me what he was doing in the middle of a protest about a black man that was killed purposefully breaking windows like he was out for a stroll on a Sunday afternoon. 

Even you can see that there is something other than a protest that is going on here. No?

Conspiracy? 

You would make one hell of a Democrat if you lived here in America, woooosh.

Nothing is as it seems.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me what he was doing in the middle of a protest about a black man that was killed purposefully breaking windows like he was out for a stroll on a Sunday afternoon. </p>
<p>Even you can see that there is something other than a protest that is going on here. No?</p>
<p>Conspiracy? </p>
<p>You would make one hell of a Democrat if you lived here in America, woooosh.</p>
<p>Nothing is as it seems.</p>
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		By: Andrew_W		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 20:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A tall white guy trying to hide his identity by wearing a mask and black clothes, and carrying an umbrella, is breaking windows.

That&#039;s the only conclusion you can make on the evidence available.

I&#039;m getting tired of reading kooky conspiracy theory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tall white guy trying to hide his identity by wearing a mask and black clothes, and carrying an umbrella, is breaking windows.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the only conclusion you can make on the evidence available.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting tired of reading kooky conspiracy theory.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 20:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is a little edumaction about masks and their uses:

A cop breaking windows to start a riot? CIA? FBI? ANTIFA?

Looks something like that:

https://youtu.be/eTfwoB_8J0M

Obviously this guy is out of place in the Minneapolis protests, he is without doubt white behind his mask, he has attempted to disguise himself all dressed in black and is also concealed by an umbrella, and he is carrying a hammer and is very purposefully breaking windows in a commercial business across the street from a police station. 

The guy videoing asks if he is a cop? Something more going on here than just protestors.

Nothing is as it seems.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a little edumaction about masks and their uses:</p>
<p>A cop breaking windows to start a riot? CIA? FBI? ANTIFA?</p>
<p>Looks something like that:</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/eTfwoB_8J0M" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/eTfwoB_8J0M</a></p>
<p>Obviously this guy is out of place in the Minneapolis protests, he is without doubt white behind his mask, he has attempted to disguise himself all dressed in black and is also concealed by an umbrella, and he is carrying a hammer and is very purposefully breaking windows in a commercial business across the street from a police station. </p>
<p>The guy videoing asks if he is a cop? Something more going on here than just protestors.</p>
<p>Nothing is as it seems.</p>
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		By: wodun		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 18:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I intend to live my life as a statement, not an apology.&quot;

That&#039;s fine and far more honest than hiding behind &quot;science&quot;. Many people who disfavor wearing a mask or taking any steps to prevent the spread of the virus are not coming to their position out of rational thought but because they want to make a statement. There is a bit of projection when they accuse others of virtue signaling over wearing a mask. 

People are becoming so ideologically entrenched that they are closing themselves off to making good decisions. Persistence is a virtue. Stubbornness can be a character defect.

I think it is fine to be irrational. Humans are irrational beings. It is only by being self aware, and accepting, of this that we are able to sort through the distortions and make good decisions. 

When I consider wearing a mask, I look at the context*. There is a low chance that I will contact a sick person but certain situations put me in a place where there are high volumes of people from all over town or where I will be in contact with vulnerable populations. It is important to remember than in some contexts, you will be exposing yourself to populations that are vulnerable. Aren&#039;t these the people we are supposed to look out for? I am fairly certain that I have read here that everyone should go about their normal business but that we should look out for the vulnerable.

This is why doctor offices want people to wear masks. It isn&#039;t necessarily about you. It is about protecting the vulnerable so that they can see a doctor. 

A person might be totally healthy but how is anyone else to know that? A person might also think they are totally healthy, but really aren&#039;t and again, no one else can know. 

I urge people who are making statements to think about the context they are making statements in. Going to the store is different than being around a bunch of people with weakened immune systems. 

Go read the comments over at instapundit and tell me which side of the debate appear more rational and thought out. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/376887/#respond

*It is totally possible to look at the context and determine that wearing a mask isn&#039;t needed but that won&#039;t be the case in all situations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I intend to live my life as a statement, not an apology.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine and far more honest than hiding behind &#8220;science&#8221;. Many people who disfavor wearing a mask or taking any steps to prevent the spread of the virus are not coming to their position out of rational thought but because they want to make a statement. There is a bit of projection when they accuse others of virtue signaling over wearing a mask. </p>
<p>People are becoming so ideologically entrenched that they are closing themselves off to making good decisions. Persistence is a virtue. Stubbornness can be a character defect.</p>
<p>I think it is fine to be irrational. Humans are irrational beings. It is only by being self aware, and accepting, of this that we are able to sort through the distortions and make good decisions. </p>
<p>When I consider wearing a mask, I look at the context*. There is a low chance that I will contact a sick person but certain situations put me in a place where there are high volumes of people from all over town or where I will be in contact with vulnerable populations. It is important to remember than in some contexts, you will be exposing yourself to populations that are vulnerable. Aren&#8217;t these the people we are supposed to look out for? I am fairly certain that I have read here that everyone should go about their normal business but that we should look out for the vulnerable.</p>
<p>This is why doctor offices want people to wear masks. It isn&#8217;t necessarily about you. It is about protecting the vulnerable so that they can see a doctor. </p>
<p>A person might be totally healthy but how is anyone else to know that? A person might also think they are totally healthy, but really aren&#8217;t and again, no one else can know. </p>
<p>I urge people who are making statements to think about the context they are making statements in. Going to the store is different than being around a bunch of people with weakened immune systems. </p>
<p>Go read the comments over at instapundit and tell me which side of the debate appear more rational and thought out. <a href="https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/376887/#respond" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/376887/#respond</a></p>
<p>*It is totally possible to look at the context and determine that wearing a mask isn&#8217;t needed but that won&#8217;t be the case in all situations.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 18:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did not know that.]]></description>
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		By: commodude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 17:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cotour, if you READ the order signed by Il Duce Minuto, it&#039;s very vague and mandates nothing.

However, if you deal with the petit dictator bureaucrats mandated to enforce the order, you get a very different interpretation than a reasonable layman would come up with.

Massachusetts, however, has a very different directive, stating that anyone not in their own home  without a mask on is subject to a $300 fine. 

There are certain municipalities in MA which have gone far beyond even that, making the fine up to $1000.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cotour, if you READ the order signed by Il Duce Minuto, it&#8217;s very vague and mandates nothing.</p>
<p>However, if you deal with the petit dictator bureaucrats mandated to enforce the order, you get a very different interpretation than a reasonable layman would come up with.</p>
<p>Massachusetts, however, has a very different directive, stating that anyone not in their own home  without a mask on is subject to a $300 fine. </p>
<p>There are certain municipalities in MA which have gone far beyond even that, making the fine up to $1000.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 17:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mandating in certain defined circumstances / conditions.

There is no executive order that I am aware of that blanket mandates the wearing of masks if you are not within your own home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandating in certain defined circumstances / conditions.</p>
<p>There is no executive order that I am aware of that blanket mandates the wearing of masks if you are not within your own home.</p>
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		By: commodude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 17:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gary, many governors are mandating masks via executive fiat regardless of a dearth of evidence showing any effectiveness. Massachusetts, New York.....just to name your 2.

There are others as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, many governors are mandating masks via executive fiat regardless of a dearth of evidence showing any effectiveness. Massachusetts, New York&#8230;..just to name your 2.</p>
<p>There are others as well.</p>
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		By: Gary Brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 16:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RZ - your words &quot;It once again seems very inappropriate (I am using a very mild word here) for our leaders or anyone to now demand that we all wear them, all the time, in all situations, blindly.

If you can&#039;t offer 2 or more examples of where our leaders or &quot;anyone&quot; are demanding we all wear masks, all the time , in all situations blindly, you are setting up a straw man. Additionally, there is a difference between private and personal actors demanding you do something to do business with them than the government forcing them. Your freedom is always limited by other people&#039;s freedom or rights. I&#039;m in favor of situational mask wearing based on relative risk and that is really the only approach that makes sense. I don&#039;t wear a mask outdoors, for example. I don&#039;t wear a mask in my home, or in my car. Everything else is up for grabs based on requirements and my judgement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RZ &#8211; your words &#8220;It once again seems very inappropriate (I am using a very mild word here) for our leaders or anyone to now demand that we all wear them, all the time, in all situations, blindly.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t offer 2 or more examples of where our leaders or &#8220;anyone&#8221; are demanding we all wear masks, all the time , in all situations blindly, you are setting up a straw man. Additionally, there is a difference between private and personal actors demanding you do something to do business with them than the government forcing them. Your freedom is always limited by other people&#8217;s freedom or rights. I&#8217;m in favor of situational mask wearing based on relative risk and that is really the only approach that makes sense. I don&#8217;t wear a mask outdoors, for example. I don&#8217;t wear a mask in my home, or in my car. Everything else is up for grabs based on requirements and my judgement.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 12:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kermit,

I&#039;ve spent plenty of time in MOPP gear.  The difference between MOPP and the silliness that the fascists are forcing on society with masks  is that MOPP is well designed for a specific threat (chemical weapons use on the battlefield in a threat environment with stated first use policies, and I&#039;ll forgive the designers of the M-17 ask for the cheek filters that take 10 minutes to change...) while NONE of the masks used are designed for the intended use, they all restrict breathing, and there are no studies that actually support their use. 

Asians started wearing masks when the particulate pollution in their cities became so bad you couldn&#039;t breathe without them. They&#039;re also fashion/ cultural signalling in certain societies. 

The only use for Masks in the United States is a tool to control ,signal virtue, and engage the sheep to think they&#039;re doing something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kermit,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent plenty of time in MOPP gear.  The difference between MOPP and the silliness that the fascists are forcing on society with masks  is that MOPP is well designed for a specific threat (chemical weapons use on the battlefield in a threat environment with stated first use policies, and I&#8217;ll forgive the designers of the M-17 ask for the cheek filters that take 10 minutes to change&#8230;) while NONE of the masks used are designed for the intended use, they all restrict breathing, and there are no studies that actually support their use. </p>
<p>Asians started wearing masks when the particulate pollution in their cities became so bad you couldn&#8217;t breathe without them. They&#8217;re also fashion/ cultural signalling in certain societies. </p>
<p>The only use for Masks in the United States is a tool to control ,signal virtue, and engage the sheep to think they&#8217;re doing something.</p>
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		By: Kermit the Retired Soldier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2020 12:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, I have seen a LOT of people wearing their masks covering their mouths but not their noses.  It is sort of weird, but again it&#039;s personal choice.  The other mask wearing that I find amusing is people wearing masks to cover just their chins.

I have spend more than 24 hours in MOPP4 before and rather enjoyed it.  Other people go nuts.  It takes all types.  Some of us are more comfortable in PPE and some of us find it mentally, physically, socially, and even spiritually / philosophically taxing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, I have seen a LOT of people wearing their masks covering their mouths but not their noses.  It is sort of weird, but again it&#8217;s personal choice.  The other mask wearing that I find amusing is people wearing masks to cover just their chins.</p>
<p>I have spend more than 24 hours in MOPP4 before and rather enjoyed it.  Other people go nuts.  It takes all types.  Some of us are more comfortable in PPE and some of us find it mentally, physically, socially, and even spiritually / philosophically taxing.</p>
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