Comments on: More results from New Horizons https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/ Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:41:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Edward https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062933 Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:41:30 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062933 Stephen and Farside,
There are some differences between New Horizons and other events, such as the Apollo 11 landing.

New Horizons was a delayed event. The ground control crew no longer had control over the event. They could afford to express cheerfulness. Apollo 11 controllers, on the other hand, not only had immediate responsibility over the landing but once the lander was on the surface they had two minutes to determine the safety of the mission and call a “stay/no stay.”

Robert has a point about the change in our culture. Back in the 1960s, we did not applaud weddings as though they were entertainment. These days we do. Compare the “Father of the Bride” movies. The 1950 version, with Elizabeth Taylor and Spencer Tracey, has no applause at the ceremony, but by 1991 applause at weddings was routine, as can be seen in the Steve Martin version.

]]> By: Farside https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062925 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:29:49 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062925 Here is a video of the Houston Space Center Control Room at the time of the Apollo 11 landing. They were quite subdued; even though, some of the controllers may have turned blue and smoked a few cigars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL1efOcYO5M

]]> By: Robert Zimmerman https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062921 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:11:00 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062921 In reply to Stephen.

Stephen: As I have noted at length here and then again only earlier this week, we have become a childish culture. Very disturbing. It bodes badly for the future.

]]> By: Stephen https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062919 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:33:38 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062919 I’m 75 and worked within the aerospace industry in the 60’s & early 70’s with companies in greater San Fernando Valley area including Litton, Rocketdyne, Aerojet , Hughes, Teledyne, Bendix, JPL, Lockheed, and others big and small.

I can’t recall one time in all those years that I attended a meeting or event in which the engineers or managers acted emotionally jumping around clapping and patting each other on the back like children.

What I see with today’s ‘professionals’ in the aerospace industry (as as other industries) makes me cringe. What happened to professionals acting professional? i.e. adj. exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace

]]> By: wayne https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062912 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 18:24:37 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062912 Thank you.

]]> By: Robert Zimmerman https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062911 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 18:18:17 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062911 In reply to wayne.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%28486958%29_2014_MU69.

It is a contact binary 31 km (19 mi) long, composed of two joined bodies 19 km (12 mi) and 14 km (9 mi) across that are nicknamed “Ultima” and “Thule”, respectively.

]]> By: wayne https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062907 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 17:54:46 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062907 Q:
What are the dimensions of Ultima Thule?

]]> By: Max https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062906 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 17:35:51 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062906 Avi Feit;
There are three forces at play. Gravitation is the obvious main factor but the snowballs are too small for gravity to be the only consideration. Static electrical charge may act as a far reaching attractive element for molecules in space, a static charge space filter of sorts. (Electric universe? Electrical charges can be any orders of magnitude stronger than gravity)
Sublimation would also be a factor, warm molecules are attracted to cold spots.
Being so far from the sun, warmth from the local fluff and the solar wind, as thin as it is, would find the snowman very attractive.
If I had to guess, and it’s just a guess, the two snowballs developed near each other on the same trajectory. They grew large enough to slowly attract each other in a soft, very soft collision. We could learn much from a core sample.

The most exciting part of discovery is this object looks like a giant pile of rocket fuel!
Enough to supply our present technology fuel for hundreds if not thousands of years.
If carefully calculated out, such a slow object could be re-directed towards Saturn and/or Jupiter in a breaking maneuver, eventually to park ideally in earths shadow Lagrange point. If not, lunar orbit will work fine as much of the ice will sublime to the polar regions of the moon. Solar collector/heat shield to protect it from melting away…. Our space future is looking promising.

]]> By: Matt in AZ https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062903 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 16:13:37 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062903 No new pics came out later in the day – looks like Daniel Peters was right about the downloads.

]]> By: Avi Feit https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062893 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:43:42 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062893 Why are the lobes spherical. There is not enough gravity to pull them into a sphere. Is there some sort of adhesion mechanism we’re seeing? Do the lobes have some sort of surface tension like a water droplet?

]]> By: William Barton https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062886 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 01:53:02 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062886 I don’t suppose it would do any good to point out JPL stands for the California Institute of Technology Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calfornia, whereas New Horizons was done by APL, the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, in Baltimore, Maryland. There’s a slight difference.

That said, Alan Stern seems to think he’s a rock star, and looked silly posing with Brian May (an actual rock star whose a planetary scientist in his spare time).

]]> By: Orion314 https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062878 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 00:15:20 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062878 Wodun, you really should check out the JPL confs on youtube, if that’s not hype . let me know.
regards,
Orion314

]]> By: wodun https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062877 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 00:03:41 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062877 Maybe they just wanted to keep the public informed without any nefarious purpose behind it. I don’t think the term hype fits but I didn’t watch the press conference.

]]> By: Daniel Peters https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062875 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 23:07:25 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062875 I believe the New Horizons space craft communications system is designed to have some autonomy regarding download queuing & the “money shots” may have been pushed down the queue. That plus any delays in the Deep Space network may have caused the required pictures to not be received in time for analysis/vetting before the news conference.

or

It could be that sometimes downloads take longer than you estimated!

]]> By: Orion314 https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062871 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 22:17:09 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062871 An alternative theory as to Comet / NH Thule morphology : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sot_s88ICM8
“shortcut to ~7 :45 , Thule looks like many comets. Hint, gravitational attraction doesn’t seem to hunt.. Electric universe. food for thought.

also see my previous post as to JPL as deep state players. Talk about self hype. What else could there be from SoCal?

]]> By: Matt in AZ https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/more-results-from-new-horizons/#comment-1062868 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 21:14:28 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=55543#comment-1062868 I believe a more detailed image is to be released this afternoon, but I’m not sure why the press conference was held a few hours earlier than that.

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