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	Comments on: NASA cancels launch of its two Escapade Mars Orbiters due to Blue Origin delays	</title>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 00:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I no longer expect BO to do anything except make nice press releases.

Its going the way of Virgin orbit and galactic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I no longer expect BO to do anything except make nice press releases.</p>
<p>Its going the way of Virgin orbit and galactic.</p>
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		By: gbaikie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Sep 2024 06:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This failure of Blue Origin to meet this deadline speaks poorly of the company. 
&quot;it appeared that Blue Origin would not be able to meet the October 13-21 launch window&quot;

What is the latest that it can launch? 
New Glenn a big rocket and it&#039;s got a tiny payload.
Is the October 13-21 window for the standard 7 months to Mars? Can you use a lot more delta-v and go faster to Mars.
Musk wants 6 months to Mars, and will use Mars atmosphere to brake, can&#039;t Blue Origin do it, before SpaceX does it.
Or maybe something &quot;completely different&quot;.
I thinking maybe Blue Origin wanted a tiny payload, as they are testing landing the first stage and want a large margin rocket fuel left in first stage. But it seems they large margin in the rocket, even if they leave lot&#039;s rocket rocket fuel in first stage.
Anyways how much delta-v could they have for the 180 kg payload? Even if you give first stage extra margin.
It seems it&#039;s a much greater amount of delta-v than what needed for a 6 month to Mars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This failure of Blue Origin to meet this deadline speaks poorly of the company.<br />
&#8220;it appeared that Blue Origin would not be able to meet the October 13-21 launch window&#8221;</p>
<p>What is the latest that it can launch?<br />
New Glenn a big rocket and it&#8217;s got a tiny payload.<br />
Is the October 13-21 window for the standard 7 months to Mars? Can you use a lot more delta-v and go faster to Mars.<br />
Musk wants 6 months to Mars, and will use Mars atmosphere to brake, can&#8217;t Blue Origin do it, before SpaceX does it.<br />
Or maybe something &#8220;completely different&#8221;.<br />
I thinking maybe Blue Origin wanted a tiny payload, as they are testing landing the first stage and want a large margin rocket fuel left in first stage. But it seems they large margin in the rocket, even if they leave lot&#8217;s rocket rocket fuel in first stage.<br />
Anyways how much delta-v could they have for the 180 kg payload? Even if you give first stage extra margin.<br />
It seems it&#8217;s a much greater amount of delta-v than what needed for a 6 month to Mars.</p>
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		By: Mitch S.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mitch S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Sep 2024 02:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder how the NASA discussions with BO went. Did BO admit to NASA the Oct launch date was unrealistic or did BO insist it could do it and NASA told them &quot;Sorry we&#039;re not taking a chance on your word&quot;.
In the latter case BO needs to try to launch in Oct even with no payload or a dummy payload.
Spring 2025? I wonder how many more Starship/SH launches will have happened by then and how far along SpaceX will be in bringing Starship into service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the NASA discussions with BO went. Did BO admit to NASA the Oct launch date was unrealistic or did BO insist it could do it and NASA told them &#8220;Sorry we&#8217;re not taking a chance on your word&#8221;.<br />
In the latter case BO needs to try to launch in Oct even with no payload or a dummy payload.<br />
Spring 2025? I wonder how many more Starship/SH launches will have happened by then and how far along SpaceX will be in bringing Starship into service.</p>
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