NASA corrupt safety panel once again blathers on
The corrupt safety panel at NASA that spent years slowing down SpaceX’s manned Dragon capsule development with sometimes absurd demands, including delays caused simply because of paperwork, is now demanding that NASA should slow its approval of Boeing’s Starliner capsule, even if its unmanned demo mission next week succeeds completely.
This quote from the article best illustrates this safety panel’s do-nothing bureaucratic view of the world:
A further concern is that Starliner uses the United Launch Alliance (ULA) Atlas V rocket to get to orbit, but Atlas Vs are being phased out. ULA is building a new rocket, Vulcan, that could see its first launch late this year, but must go through a “human-rating” certification process that [panel member David] West said “could take years” for Starliner. [emphasis mine]
Every demand of this panel for years has demanded years of delays, with many having nothing to do with technical safety — the panel’s original purpose — but with management questions and the panel’s own overblown opinion of itself. Worse, some of its demands never made sense, such as its objection to SpaceX’s launch procedures where it fueled the rocket after the astronauts got on board. This quote from an earlier post about the panel’s recent inappropriate attempt to insert itself into NASA’s policy decisions sums things up well, and provides links to previous failures of the panel:
This panel continues to demonstrate its corrupt and power-hungry attitude about how the U.S. should explore space. For years it did whatever it could to stymie NASA’s efforts to transfer ownership to the private sector, putting up false barriers to the launch of SpaceX’s manned Dragon capsule that made no sense and were really designed to keep all control within the government bureaucracy.
It is now targeting Boeing, though amazingly it is only doing it after many of Starliner’s technical problems have been uncovered. The safety panel was a complete failure in spotting the company’s problems early on, several years ago, when it might have saved everyone a lot of time and money. Instead, it now acts like an annoying back seat driver, only kibitzing about things that went wrong long after everyone else has done the work.
I have been saying for years that it is time to shut this panel down. It is now long past time to do so. The time and money saved might actually improve safety far more than the panel ever has.
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The corrupt safety panel at NASA that spent years slowing down SpaceX’s manned Dragon capsule development with sometimes absurd demands, including delays caused simply because of paperwork, is now demanding that NASA should slow its approval of Boeing’s Starliner capsule, even if its unmanned demo mission next week succeeds completely.
This quote from the article best illustrates this safety panel’s do-nothing bureaucratic view of the world:
A further concern is that Starliner uses the United Launch Alliance (ULA) Atlas V rocket to get to orbit, but Atlas Vs are being phased out. ULA is building a new rocket, Vulcan, that could see its first launch late this year, but must go through a “human-rating” certification process that [panel member David] West said “could take years” for Starliner. [emphasis mine]
Every demand of this panel for years has demanded years of delays, with many having nothing to do with technical safety — the panel’s original purpose — but with management questions and the panel’s own overblown opinion of itself. Worse, some of its demands never made sense, such as its objection to SpaceX’s launch procedures where it fueled the rocket after the astronauts got on board. This quote from an earlier post about the panel’s recent inappropriate attempt to insert itself into NASA’s policy decisions sums things up well, and provides links to previous failures of the panel:
This panel continues to demonstrate its corrupt and power-hungry attitude about how the U.S. should explore space. For years it did whatever it could to stymie NASA’s efforts to transfer ownership to the private sector, putting up false barriers to the launch of SpaceX’s manned Dragon capsule that made no sense and were really designed to keep all control within the government bureaucracy.
It is now targeting Boeing, though amazingly it is only doing it after many of Starliner’s technical problems have been uncovered. The safety panel was a complete failure in spotting the company’s problems early on, several years ago, when it might have saved everyone a lot of time and money. Instead, it now acts like an annoying back seat driver, only kibitzing about things that went wrong long after everyone else has done the work.
I have been saying for years that it is time to shut this panel down. It is now long past time to do so. The time and money saved might actually improve safety far more than the panel ever has.
Readers!
Please consider supporting my work here at Behind the Black. Your support allows me the freedom and ability to analyze objectively the ongoing renaissance in space, as well as the cultural changes -- for good or ill -- that are happening across America. Fourteen years ago I wrote that SLS and Orion were a bad ideas, a waste of money, would be years behind schedule, and better replaced by commercial private enterprise. Only now does it appear that Washington might finally recognize this reality.
In 2020 when the world panicked over COVID I wrote that the panic was unnecessary, that the virus was apparently simply a variation of the flu, that masks were not simply pointless but if worn incorrectly were a health threat, that the lockdowns were a disaster and did nothing to stop the spread of COVID. Only in the past year have some of our so-called experts in the health field have begun to recognize these facts.
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“Starliner uses Atlas V? I’m shocked! Shocked!!”
As if this is a new discovery? How many years has this been the plan?
Also, this outfit displays a complete lack of professionalism by the lack of what the Army calls “completed staff work”
If I went into my commanding officer’s office and told him, “Boss, I’ve discovered something terrible!”, he’d look at me and say, “What is your recommended solution?” If I then said, “Beats me, that’s your job. I just look for problems”, I would have been thrown out of his office and soon been looking at the Help Wanted ads in a civilian newspaper. Now, instead of a single recommendation, I could present the CO with a menu of choices, explaining the pros and cons of each, and get his guidance as to the one he preferred, then go away, come up with a detailed plan of action based on his wishes, return to get his blessing and then execute it.
This outfit just says, “Here’s a problem” and that’s it. If Atlas V is a problem, what is their recommended alternative? Anything else is worthless and a waste of the taxpayer’s money.
I wonder how many real engineers that have actually built and flown anything for a profit sit on that panel. I’m betting little to none.
And SLS? It’s supposed to fly humans on the second launch. I guess they’ll say that human-rating was designed in the process.
The day is fast approaching when private space stations, moon bases, and Martian bases will conduct their own affairs by their own selves and [deleted] the whims of Earthen bureaucrats.
Freedom!
Off world means [deleted]
GaryMike: Adding an * or two to a curse word or abbreviating it doesn’t work for me. Both still violate my rules about no obscenities on BtB. I have deleted both, and you are now warned, don’t do it again.
Why are people today so eager to debase themselves in this manner? If you are a civilized adult you simply don’t do this. You instead write with intelligence and thought, not emotion and crudeness.
Points taken.
I apologize for crossing your limits.
It won’t happen again.
I will choose more site appropriate sentiments in the future that express the same kinds of thoughts. ;-)
I don’t mind the idea of a safety panel…but they are only now doing anything right.
I prefer my taxes go to hardware
Okay lets contac the Jupiter 2 mission see if they have reached Alpha Centari